Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #4 ***ARRESTS***

[Knox]

WZTV FOX 17 ‏@wztv_fox17 11m Judge opens by clarifying Adams and Jason Autry are technically not co-defendants. #HollyBobo STREAM NOW: http://m.fox17.com/stream

 

[Knox]

Nichole Manna ‏@NicholeManna 12m 60 days after discovery being filed, pre-trial motions will be due. #hollybobo
from Tennessee, USA

 

[Knox]

Real quick. Haven't posted in this forum, but have been following along with you all for months. Good job posters and thank you for sharing all your detailed knowledge of Holly's case!!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

WZTV FOX 17 ‏@wztv_fox17 49s

Prosecution says discovery documents are not ready for the defense yet.

#HollyBobo STREAM NOW: http://m.fox17.com/stream

RBBM:

At the last hearing, prosecution said they had thousands and thousands of pages of discovery that would take time to provide to the defense ...

BUT JMO ... I think that the prosecution is not going to hand anything over to the defense until they get the SA "immunity deal" settled ...

And maybe there are others the prosecution is still working "deals" with or waiting to "indict" ...

:twocents: and :moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Real quick. Haven't posted in this forum, but have been following along with you all for months. Good job posters and thank you for sharing all your detailed knowledge of Holly's case!!

:seeya: Hi Knox !

:welcome5:

Please visit more often ... and Thanks for the updates today !

:seeya:

 

[Dr. Know?]

Re: Brady Request. Here's what I could find. Sorry, wiki...(also might include request for SA or DA's testimonies, I think)

Brady disclosure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Hearing For Man Charged In Bobo's Disappearance


Zachary Adams entered Decatur County Circuit Court wearing a black and white prison jumpsuit and shackles on his hands and feet.

During the brief hearing, the judge set some dates for further hearings as the case progresses, as well as heard some motions filed by Adams' lawyer. One of those motions asked the judge to force prosecutors to give her evidence that pertains to her client's guilt or innocence.

The judge said that the state only had a certain amount of time to present discovery, or evidence, to the defense.


http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25689331/hearing-for-man-charged-in-bobos-disappearance

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Zachary Adams' attorney asks for jail visitation, phone privileges for suspect in Holly Bobo case


DECATURVILLE — The attorney for Zachary Adams, one of the men accused of kidnapping and killing Holly Bobo, has filed a motion in Circuit Court for the judge to consider granting Adams “standard access to jail visitation” including jail telephone privileges, and access to pencil, paper, postage and “basic mail services.”

Adams is currently in custody at the Chester County Jail.


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...tion-phone-privileges-suspect-Holly-Bobo-case

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Zachary Adams' attorney asks for jail visitation, phone privileges for suspect in Holly Bobo case

The motion, which was filed today, said Adams has only limited access to the front desk telephone to talk to his attorney. Adams has only been able to visit with family at the request of his attorney, Jennifer Lynn Thompson.


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...tion-phone-privileges-suspect-Holly-Bobo-case

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From the 6-4-14 Hearing:


Thompson has also filed an order asking that the court “partially unseal all sealed materials in the court file, including search warrants, affidavits in support of search warrants, and filed copies of executed search warrants so as to allow Ms. Thompson to review and copy the items.”


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...tion-phone-privileges-suspect-Holly-Bobo-case

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From ZA Hearing 6-4-14:


The judge said that the state must present discovery, or evidence, to lawyers by August 29.

All pre-trial motions must be filed by October 30, and those will be heard on December 17.

A settlement date was also set for January 14, 2015. when a trial date will be set if the case is not settled by then.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25689331/hearing-for-man-charged-in-bobos-disappearance




I just checked the Scheduling Order that was issued for JA, and the dates bolded above are exactly the same ...

Interesting !


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[oceanblueeyes]

RBBM:

At the last hearing, prosecution said they had thousands and thousands of pages of discovery that would take time to provide to the defense ...

BUT JMO ... I think that the prosecution is not going to hand anything over to the defense until they get the SA "immunity deal" settled ...

And maybe there are others the prosecution is still working "deals" with or waiting to "indict" ...

:twocents: and :moo:

They will start handing some of it over because they don't want the DT to whine to the Judge in the future. However I am sure he is like most DAs and will save his best evidence until last.

A typical murder case that goes to trial has about 3,000 documents of discovery. Scott Peterson's case had between 6-8 thousands.

But iirc I read the TBI website a few months back and in 2012 they had already amassed over 29,000 pages. They said it was the largest investigation in TN history.

So this case is probably going to break the all time record when it comes to discovery.

Not all of it of course will be all about the A-Train suspects but the DA has to turn it all over to the DT no matter what or who it includes.

 

[SteveS]

I think that the prosecution is not going to hand anything over to the defense until they get the SA "immunity deal" settled ...

And maybe there are others the prosecution is still working "deals" with or waiting to "indict" ...

It is not disclosure "at a convenient time for the prosecution." If they withhold, they can jeopardize the case by depriving him of Constitutional rights of fairness and due process.

They have already arrested and charged, and have deprived the defendant of his freedom as the process transpires. They have an immediate obligation, when so ordered (and they have been) to disclose their evidence that they claim proves he is guilty along with whatever other evidence they may have discovered pertinent to the case.

 

[pearl]

I'm not posting this in admiration for ZA in any way. These are just some of my observations of today's proceedings. ZA and his lawyer don't seem to be turning this case into a "me, me, me" media circus like JA and his attorney are doing. JA's actions in court shows just how much he does not respect the justice process. This from a 'Christian" man. IMO, the seriousness of the situation has gotten through to ZA's drug-addled mind. He knows he is up the creek without a paddle. I also think his attorney should be given confidential access to him. This would be a constitutional issue and might even be basis for overturning a guilty verdict on appeal.

 

[SteveS]

ZA has made a Brady Request ... ?

TIA !

Brady request is the shorthand reference for disclosure of any and all evidence that would point to the innocence of the accused, or that would tend to be detrimental to the case of the prosecution. For example, if the prosecution had discovered that one of their key witnesses had a history of lying. Or if a key witness had said something that turned out to be disproven (such as, if a witness said they saw Holly being buried by the accused at a certain place, and no body was found there).

A Brady request is, by implication, a suggestion that the prosecution has been holding back important evidence in order to slant the evidence against the person they want to charge with the crime. And it is vital tool for an unfairly-charged defendant to be able to follow up and flesh out "the rest of the story" that points the other way.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It is not disclosure "at a convenient time for the prosecution." If they withhold, they can jeopardize the case by depriving him of Constitutional rights of fairness and due process.

They have already arrested and charged, and have deprived the defendant of his freedom as the process transpires. They have an immediate obligation, when so ordered (and they have been) to disclose their evidence that they claim proves he is guilty along with whatever other evidence they may have discovered pertinent to the case.

:seeya: Hi Steve !

Yes, I agree, and do understand that there is a process, etc.

I probably did not convey what I was trying to say very well, BUT here's another attempt :facepalm::

The prosecutor still has SA's "immunity deal" pending -- and no telling what else is pending ...

So my question is this :

IF prosecutors have to share info with ZA's attorney PRIOR to SA's immunity deal or indictment, or anyone else's deal or indictment -- is it possible that sharing that info could jeopardize the continuing investigation and/or the trial against ZA and JA ?

Shouldn't the prosecutor have ALL their ducks in row ?

In other words, anyone who was involved with Holly's abduction/murder should be INDICTED or CHARGED or a DEAL in place BEFORE they start sharing info with any one of OTHER the defendants ...

I hope that made sense ...

:twocents: and :moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I'm not posting this in admiration for ZA in any way. These are just some of my observations of today's proceedings. ZA and his lawyer don't seem to be turning this case into a "me, me, me" media circus like JA and his attorney are doing. JA's actions in court shows just how much he does not respect the justice process. This from a 'Christian" man. IMO, the seriousness of the situation has gotten through to ZA's drug-addled mind. He knows he is up the creek without a paddle. I also think his attorney should be given confidential access to him. This would be a constitutional issue and might even be basis for overturning a guilty verdict on appeal.

:seeya: Hi pearl !

This is a good and accurate observation from today's proceedings ... and in NO WAY is this any support for ZA.

ZA should have been behind bars for the crime he committed a few days before he/whoever abducted Holly !

JMO and MOO !

 

[reedus23]

It is not disclosure "at a convenient time for the prosecution." If they withhold, they can jeopardize the case by depriving him of Constitutional rights of fairness and due process.

They have already arrested and charged, and have deprived the defendant of his freedom as the process transpires. They have an immediate obligation, when so ordered (and they have been) to disclose their evidence that they claim proves he is guilty along with whatever other evidence they may have discovered pertinent to the case.

Absolutely agree. I believe the Judge has set deadlines by which the prosecution has to turn certain items over to the defense and if the prosecution unilaterally decides to not produce it until after that date, it could create problems. I don't suspect the prosecution is going to be busting their hump to get that discovery to the defense any sooner than they have to though.

 

[reedus23]

Brady request is the shorthand reference for disclosure of any and all evidence that would point to the innocence of the accused, or that would tend to be detrimental to the case of the prosecution. For example, if the prosecution had discovered that one of their key witnesses had a history of lying. Or if a key witness had said something that turned out to be disproven (such as, if a witness said they saw Holly being buried by the accused at a certain place, and no body was found there).

A Brady request is, by implication, a suggestion that the prosecution has been holding back important evidence in order to slant the evidence against the person they want to charge with the crime. And it is vital tool for an unfairly-charged defendant to be able to follow up and flesh out "the rest of the story" that points the other way.

Agree that is what a brady request is but not so much with the implication. That implication may have been true in the original case where the rule was handed down, but now it is just a matter or routine in many cases and carries no implications with it. It's just simply defense attorney's doing their due diligence and saying hey, if you have any exculpatory evidence, we want it.

 

[tlcya]

Zachary Adams' attorney asks for jail visitation, phone privileges for suspect in Holly Bobo case


DECATURVILLE — The attorney for Zachary Adams, one of the men accused of kidnapping and killing Holly Bobo, has filed a motion in Circuit Court for the judge to consider granting Adams “standard access to jail visitation” including jail telephone privileges, and access to pencil, paper, postage and “basic mail services.”

Adams is currently in custody at the Chester County Jail.


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...tion-phone-privileges-suspect-Holly-Bobo-case

why so he can attempt to threaten and intimidate more witnesses? <sarcasm - no response needed>