Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #4 ***ARRESTS***

[Mercurydime]

Hello. Been reading this thread for a while. Just got registered for websleuths.

I'm not quite understanding how this immunity deal was ever violated. The deal was to protect SA from any charges stemming from the burial, destruction, etc of Holly's body. The DA made a phone call to SA's lawyer to make him aware that SA would be charged with a crime. Did the DA say what crime? If SA is going to be charged with kidnapping, conspiracy to commit a felony, or anything other than charges stemming from the destruction or burial of Holly's body, how would there be any violation of the immunity agreement?

 

[~n/t~]

Hello. Been reading this thread for a while. Just got registered for websleuths.

I'm not quite understanding how this immunity deal was ever violated. The deal was to protect SA from any charges stemming from the burial, destruction, etc of Holly's body. The DA made a phone call to SA's lawyer to make him aware that SA would be charged with a crime. Did the DA say what crime? If SA is going to be charged with kidnapping, conspiracy to commit a felony, or anything other than charges stemming from the destruction or burial of Holly's body, how would there be any violation of the immunity agreement?

My understanding is he was reveal where Holly's body was buried. He didn't and therefore the immunity deal was violated

 

[Bravo]

Hello. Been reading this thread for a while. Just got registered for websleuths.

I'm not quite understanding how this immunity deal was ever violated. The deal was to protect SA from any charges stemming from the burial, destruction, etc of Holly's body. The DA made a phone call to SA's lawyer to make him aware that SA would be charged with a crime. Did the DA say what crime? If SA is going to be charged with kidnapping, conspiracy to commit a felony, or anything other than charges stemming from the destruction or burial of Holly's body, how would there be any violation of the immunity agreement?

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[Mercurydime]

My understanding is he was reveal where Holly's body was buried. He didn't and therefore the immunity deal was violated

Well, I see how that would violate the agreement, but I don't understand the uproar. If he's charged as an accessory to murder, what's the relevance of being immune or not immune to charges stemming from the destruction of Holly's body?

 

[Mercurydime]

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[~n/t~]

Well, I see how that would violate the agreement, but I don't understand the uproar. If he's charged as an accessory to murder, what's the relevance of being immune or not immune to charges stemming from the destruction of Holly's body?

As far as I know, he's not charged with anything until this is resolved.

 

[amber1]

I'm not saying the cases are connected at all (they happened in different countries) but it's crazy how alike the photos are. Two young blue-eyed, blonde women wearing identical shoulder cut black tops and pearl necklaces. They even have their hair positioned the same way. I just wanted to share it because it gave me goosebumps!

 

[Bravo]

It's like those photos exhibit beauty, innocence and purity. Traits these lovely young woman did possess. The two perps took what they would never have :tantrum:

 

[SteveS]

Well, I see how that would violate the agreement, but I don't understand the uproar. If he's charged as an accessory to murder, what's the relevance of being immune or not immune to charges stemming from the destruction of Holly's body?

Your question (and logic) is right on target. It is not a question that anyone here can answer, nor has the prosecution filled in the huge gap in logic in their approach. One logical answer is that they are playing games, so to speak, in sending a threatening letter that seems like it would be meaningless, and have no crime to charge with, but we'll see where it goes.

 

[reedus23]

They're not asking for special treatment. From what I glean from the court hearing on Wednesday, the DA asked the TBI to keep Zach Adams under their rules while in jail due to the coercion charge. Again, I assume the TBI rules have Adam's on a short leash.
The judge said he didn't agree that Adams should be treated differently due to the charges. He should get the same privileges as the other prisoners in the jail.

I think we're on the same page. I just wasn't going to look up exactly what other inmates have in terms of access/privileges. Simply wanted to voice my opinion that their access/privileges should be the same as everyone else, it shouldn't be more restrictive and shouldn't be more lenient. Just not a big issue IMHO.

 

[pearl]

What the judge is concerned about is if the DA hands it all over at the last possible minute, the defence would have valid reason to request more time to prepare (as a consequence of the DA stalling) due to the volume of material to be examined. That would push the trial even further back. The judge wants the process to run smoothly and reasonably, so the trial can proceed at the scheduled time. He is trying to ensure that neither side plays games with procedure, something that would disrupt his calendar.

The document listing the dates for things involved with the case says "on or before." If the DA releases it on the "on" date, he/she is within the law. IMO, if the judge wants it delivered sooner, he should change the date.

 

[honesty]

Those photos are Senior yearbook drape photos.

 

[evelyn24]

The document listing the dates for things involved with the case says "on or before." If the DA releases it on the "on" date, he/she is within the law. IMO, if the judge wants it delivered sooner, he should change the date.

The judge made it clear in court he expected the prosecution to start handing over discovery as they scan or copy the paperwork, and not all at once, at the last minute.
I would hope they don't try and play any games and dump everything a few days before the deadline. I don't think it would make the judge very happy as he asked the prosecution specifically not to do to something like that, regardless of what the official deadline date states.

 

[pearl]

The judge made it clear in court he expected the prosecution to start handing over discovery as they scan or copy the paperwork, and not all at once, at the last minute.
I would hope they don't try and play any games and dump everything a few days before the deadline. I don't think it would make the judge very happy as he asked the prosecution specifically not to do to something like that, regardless of what the official deadline date states.

I totally agree with you on this. However, the wording of the document is the problem. They can wait if they want to because the document gives them the legal opportunity to do so. As it is now worded, he cannot force the prosecution to release earlier. Judge needs to reword his document. He is the one who issued it.

 

[reedus23]

The document listing the dates for things involved with the case says "on or before." If the DA releases it on the "on" date, he/she is within the law. IMO, if the judge wants it delivered sooner, he should change the date.

Exactly right. But what they can't do is just a document dump. There needs to be some organization or rhyme or reason to it.

 

[reedus23]

The judge made it clear in court he expected the prosecution to start handing over discovery as they scan or copy the paperwork, and not all at once, at the last minute.
I would hope they don't try and play any games and dump everything a few days before the deadline. I don't think it would make the judge very happy as he asked the prosecution specifically not to do to something like that, regardless of what the official deadline date states.

The order says what it says. The rest is a warning shot across the bow that if you get to the last day and it's not complete, the Judge will come down on them. The reality is the prosecution is going to give it all to them piecemeal anyways so it's all kind of moot anyways. We are also only just outside of a week on one case and within the same week on the other case. Why in the world is there so much concern over the discovery?

 

[reedus23]

I totally agree with you on this. However, the wording of the document is the problem. They can wait if they want to because the document gives them the legal opportunity to do so. As it is now worded, he cannot force the prosecution to release earlier. Judge needs to reword his document. He is the one who issued it.

This is 100% accurate. The rest of it is a "suggestion" by the court to start providing discovery now. One should take heed of such suggestions, but until the Judge enters an amended order, that order is the law of the case. Things don't happen in a vacuum. There is a lot of talk during the course of a hearing. IF the Judge want production to start immediately, he could have easily included that language in each order. He didn't. There is a reason he didn't.

 

[goldenbear]

does anyone know where the electric chair will be set up? If it is constructed near where the inmates are it may cause them to tell where Holly Bobo is to avoid the chair.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Hello. Been reading this thread for a while. Just got registered for websleuths.

I'm not quite understanding how this immunity deal was ever violated. The deal was to protect SA from any charges stemming from the burial, destruction, etc of Holly's body. The DA made a phone call to SA's lawyer to make him aware that SA would be charged with a crime. Did the DA say what crime? If SA is going to be charged with kidnapping, conspiracy to commit a felony, or anything other than charges stemming from the destruction or burial of Holly's body, how would there be any violation of the immunity agreement?

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[Mr. Noatak]

My opinions only, no facts here:

OK, no more fooling around! I have attached a conjured image showing Holly walking into the woods with the main suspect, the second suspect, and the FBI suspect. The main suspect and second suspect are based upon real-world images, scaled to Holly Bobo. The FBI suspect is scaled to an American male who is not obese, 5' 11" tall and 200 pounds.

I still think that Holly's brother gave a reasonably-accurate description. I personally think that we are still looking for the unidentified man on the far left in my attached image and not the two guys on the right. I know nothing about the guilt or innocence of the main and second suspects currently under arrest. I am only talking about the guy who committed the initial kidnapping.

But, decide for yourselves.

Sleuth On!