Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #5 ***ARRESTS***

[Mr. Noatak]

My opinions only, no facts here:

Let us assume that the second jailed suspect (the big guy) of the 'unlucky six' stated something to the effect that "no such video could possibly exist". This is not evidence that he destroyed a video or previously thought that a video existed. This is unambiguously a self-referential comment and has no further meaning, let alone indicate any guilt. Let us apply reductio ad absurdum and create an extreme case. A cop hauls you in and claims that he possesses a video of you killing yourself. You find his claim so absurd that you say "no such video could possibly exist". I think this is what the big guy was trying to say about the insinuation that he had even the slightest relationship to the crime.

I have seen discussions during past months about Law Enforcement tactics. Are there problems sometimes? Yes. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenatchee_child_abuse_prosecutions/. Forty-three adults faced 29,726 charges. Yes, you read that right. Today it is widely acknowledged that the whole situation was imaginary. But this is what can happen when a case becomes too insular and begins to feed upon itself. Early reason and certainty is replaced by concern/alarm and lastly by hysteria and wild-abandon. Everybody in Tennessee cannot either be a material witness or a suspect/POI! Take a deep breath, calm down, ignore people clamoring for the $250,000 reward, and FOCUS scientifically on what single individual could have abducted Holly Bobo. Motive, means, and opportunity. Admit what you have and what you don't. Ignore anyone making claims about this and that, who cannot deliver the merchandise.

The snake is eating its own tail here. The officials need to reduce this case to a single viable/convictable suspect and move forward from there. If you do not possess a viable suspect, you should back off and start over.

This case is not necessarily as complex as it seems. It only takes one obsessed man to perform the deed. Who among the 'unlucky six' has a prior history with Holly to create such an obsession? And there is something else. The kidnapper somehow knew the general work schedule of both Holly's father and mother (he waited for both to leave), but somehow failed to account for Holly's brother still being there (in a household with guns). This is a peculiar, yet informative aspect of this case that is not talked about and researched enough.

Sleuth On!

 

[SteveS]

evelyn: "Considering the reward has been around for three years"

$250,000? I don't think that same reward has been around that long. As I understand it, the amount went up and the terms to collect it became much more lenient just a few months ago (about the same time we started seeing arrests, not coincidentally imo).

 

[Hatfield]

An affidavit of a TBI agent filed earlier this month with the Decatur General Sessions Court says Adams told another inmate to relay a message to his brother to keep quiet.



The affidavit was later withdrawn.

This is horribly disturbing. This is/was the basis of a charge of coercing a witness-a felony? Jailhouse gossip?

Until you have served on a grand jury it's impossible to understand how this works. My first was 4 months in the old courthouse building in Nashville during the summer of 1992-June-September. One thing people need to understand is you start out with 13 strangers who can't believe they couldn't come up with an excuse to get out of this. The first session(non case related) is spent electing person for select duties-the door person-transcriber-the 'keeper of the flame' we called it because that person handles the paperwork and caseload and so on. Forming a committee to come up with excuses to tell the Judge so we could collectivity slide out of this along with moaning and groaning about how this is going to screw up everyone life. Being told that we were promised to be fed extremely well (we were) and as a group we have investigative powers that are quite encompassing helped but still this whole thing is a total drag is a collective summation.

By the second session these strangers are now engaged in violent arguments with words like 'I'm going to follow the letter of the law" or "If I'm going to be here then we will follow the law as written" or "I'm not going to be pushed around-get the DA back in here" or my own favorite "Tell the DA's office unless the patrol officer gets in here this thing is headed for the toilet"

The meaning is that people-once put into the situation-take jury duty very seriously. Our ragtag bunch was very problematic for the DA's office and became known as the 'hardasses' We visited 4 state prisons, Juvenile court, the morgue, the electric chair at old prison and the county lockup. Released a blistering 80 page report on prison conditions, the backlog of warrants that go no where, favoritism and nest feathering in the prison administration along with a scathing commentary about the public defenders office and how 'money changes everything' if you are accused of a crime in Tennessee-I penned that one myself.

The Casey Anthony trial is a perfect example of this. These strangers, as a group, decided that their mission was to fairly apply the law, as so instructed by the Judge. The state's case was weak, sloppy and assumed the jury would buy into the medias verdict of guilty. They stood their ground and stuck to the law. The media and the viewpoint of their instant experts in meaningless in a court of law.

The reason for pointing this out is that I believe the grand jurors indictment in the Holly Bobo case is valid and these young men are involved in her disappearance. We will never know who testified before the jury-what evidence was presented-and most importantly-the discussions of the secret panel that produced a true bill. The true bill means that the secret panel believes the State has presented enough evidence for an indictment-and that the wheel of justice can continue. This has nothing to do with the guilt of the subjects of the indictment who, at this point, are guilty of nothing.

The grand jury discussions are not a part of discovery. This has, and will be, debated among legal scholars for ever as a case can be made for both opinions. Since these discussions give incite into the thinking of the panel perhaps this hurts the defense in case preparation-however, what is said and recorded in this room is secret-the judge promises everyone that. Could the panel been promised the whereabouts of the victim?

With that in mind the panel decided that the remains of the victim-or her whereabouts-is not fundamental in continuing the case. That in itself is interesting and bears in mind the difficulties of conviction in such cases.

The Supreme Court as always muddies the waters as only they can do:



Now with that in mind lets look at the physical evidence lacking in this case. I spent sometime at my cabin that is 20-25 miles northwest as the crow flies from the area of the disappearance. This is common of the lay of the land which is bedrock limestone exposed at the surface-eastern red cedar-hardwoods-deep drain basins-cliff abutments-interspersed with rolling pasture along with bare undergrowth from lack of sun penetration due to collective canopy.

Along with reptiles, mammals, amphibians, marsupials such as opossum and predators Foxes-Bobcats-Skunks although dominated by coyotes as the main scavengers with turkey vultures and various Hawks, Owls and an occasional brown Eagle.

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These photos didn't attach as I would have liked but since this is an informal investigation I hope you can bear with me as I explain why this is important and why I know that the victims remains are still in the area. They attached out of order so I'll take each one as it is presented.

The false cave entrance at the midpoint is much deeper than it appears. It is around 40 feet to the bottom where the downward suction would occur to force an object deeper into channel that pushes the storm water out at the bottom of the flat.

The acidity of the soil is of chief importance here. The combination of lime water runoff, the preservative effect and odor envelopment of the crude turpentine along with humus and acidic dicranum moss breakdown organic matter quickly.

The caves scare me silly and again depth perception is not apparent in the photo. Even lower mammals avoid them and they correctly sense they are too unstable for even short term use.

Only a highly skilled rescue team could repel into the drawl and attempt to explore the cave opening for remains. That is if they knew something was in it. From the ridge to the flat is 450 feet drop that carries storm water with the force of gravity. There are at least 8 openings in this drawl and dozens of similar drain basins just in this one area.

These graves were constructed quickly with main goal of keeping the bodies from being dug up by inducing rapid breakdown of tissue with simple chemistry. The culprit-now replaced by the roaming, ever resourceful coyote-was known to the trappers as a painter of pather. The settlers had a more descriptive although false name- mountain lion.

Finally, the point to this is simple. Given a 4 hour head start-or much less-a 120 pound human body could be disposed of in this area in a manner that it would never ever be found. The knowledge that suspects owned-or lived on-this same kind of land for many, many years must have come up in jury room discussions-we will of course never know although a long shot of sorts-the prosecution could ill afford not to play it out.

Of course I could be totally wrong here. Being wrong can sometimes be a good thing in cases like this.

Thank you for taking the time to do a good job explaining what it was like in your GJ experience. It reminds me of the old classic movie I probably have mentioned before called "12 Angry Men". It was a fascinating portrayel of how 12 different and unqiue individuals behaved on their jury during a murder trial. Truly fascinating and i recommend this movie to any crime buff such as most of us.

I have to suspect that some people that have not ever had to serve on a GJ or Jury may have a somewhat incorrect perception of how things go. Not just that the verdict can sometimes be not what we expect but also forgetting that the jury members are just ordinary random folks that come to the table with all their ordinary issues in their lives. Whether that be strong opinions or maybe even some personal issues or even mental health issues. The random lot is a random sample, and so even though everyone is there to attempt to do their very best, there can be a whole host of surprises with how the group will interract with each other. Whether it be shouting matches, crying, screaming, laughing, etc. etc. With the point being that sometimes, the jury deliberations is not as professional as one would like to think it should go.
And then when you factor in all the people's past life experiences that shape how we view things in life, its actually a small miracle there can ever be a concensus.

For the GJ in this case that first decided to proceed with ZA, I do wonder what the evidence was that convinced the GJ. Since it is sealed and we may never know, it seems that is somewhat unfair that it never get publicized at some point. There is no telling who said what or who told what or who showed what to the GJ. If that info never gets released after the trial, that seems unfair to me.
I suppose the only checks + balances in that process is the state + DA realizes they will be spending lots of money going forward with a case so if they dont think they are going to win, its not just egg on their faces but real cash money being lost. But then again, its our tax money they are spending so maybe they dont care about that.

Regarding the pictures of the area, thanks for that. Seems like a beautiful area.

 

[Hatfield]

Regarding the statement, we have to remember it was the paper saying it and not an actual quote so I dont interpret it as anything we can garner anything from. The wording from the paper is below and its really bad how they worded it:

"Since our exclusive interview with Autry -- he's remained off-limits, but he's kept in contact by mail.
Autry said he has followed recent developments on the case and insists there's no video of a crime he didn't commit"

For all we know what he may have told the paper could have been something more like this which could be true if he knows he wasnt part of any crime.
"I was not part of any crime to her so there cant possibly be a video of me in it" OR
"I didnt commit no crime so there cant possibly be a video of a crime i didnt commit"

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/2...out-rumored-video-evidence-in-holly-bobo-case

 

[evelyn24]

evelyn: "Considering the reward has been around for three years"

$250,000? I don't think that same reward has been around that long. As I understand it, the amount went up and the terms to collect it became much more lenient just a few months ago (about the same time we started seeing arrests, not coincidentally imo).

Yes, but do we know for sure what really motivated the witness to lie, IF they did? No, we don't. Could be the reward could be something very personal to this person like revenge, or trying to get a deal of their own for unrelated charges.
I guess I don't think the reward was the main motivator because the media asked Jeff Pearcy if he knew who the person was and he said yes, and they then asked why this person would tell TBI he showed them a video and JP alluded to the fact the person probably wanted to get some deal of their own. Not exact quote but close. I believe he also mentioned the revenge angle as well. He knows the person and knows best what could possibly be their motivation for lying. Until we know who it is, we'll never know for sure. That's all I was stating in my previous post.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Yes, but do we know for sure what really motivated the witness to lie, IF they did? No, we don't. Could be the reward could be something very personal to this person like revenge, or trying to get a deal of their own for unrelated charges.
I guess I don't think the reward was the main motivator because the media asked Jeff Pearcy if he knew who the person was and he said yes, and they then asked why this person would tell TBI he showed them a video and JP alluded to the fact the person probably wanted to get some deal of their own. Not exact quote but close. I believe he also mentioned the revenge angle as well. He knows the person and knows best what could possibly be their motivation for lying. Until we know who it is, we'll never know for sure. That's all I was stating in my previous post.

My opinions only, no facts here:

Anybody living in the U.S. knows that money trumps all other motives. After that it is not as clear-cut, but I suppose that amnesty from prior crimes, power over others, revenge, and unconditional honesty follow (in that order).

Let's look at the lowest-order motive: unconditional honesty. How can this motive suddenly exist three years after somebody knew or suspected that a crime occurred?

Sleuth On!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

The state can't keep someone in jail simply because they are rotten people, Shefner. ZA and JA both went through the legal process with respect to the crimes for which they were convicted. The charges they face now with respect to the Holly Bobo case are a separate matter, and will be dealt with in the courts as a separate matter. If the state can not prove their case against Adams and Autry, they have every right to walk out of the courtroom as free men. THAT is the way our legal system works.

 

[steelman]

Channel 4 also spoke with her brother, Clint Bobo, who was the last to see her.

It was a Wednesday morning. Holly Bobo walked 10 to 12 feet to her car which had just been washed four days earlier.

Holly's family told Channel 4 they believe her kidnapper was waiting around the corner in the car port watching the reflection on Holly's car. And when Holly rounded the corner, that's when they think he struck.

"All the time it stays on my mind,"said Clint Bobo.

He watched through the kitchen door as his sister's captor escorted her into the woods.

"The last I seen them, they were walking past those two trees back there to the left of that tree house," he said.

Next, they walked down a 4-wheeler path in the nearby woods. The Bobo family dog, Champ, followed, wagging his tail the whole way.

It's a two-minute walk to the main road. Holly's family believes he, whoever he is, had a car waiting on the other side. They do not know if he had help.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/21129464/never-seen-before-images-in-holly-bobo-case

Anybody else wonder why her dog wouldn't bark at this guy ??

 

[Tulessa]

Channel 4 also spoke with her brother, Clint Bobo, who was the last to see her.

It was a Wednesday morning. Holly Bobo walked 10 to 12 feet to her car which had just been washed four days earlier.

Holly's family told Channel 4 they believe her kidnapper was waiting around the corner in the car port watching the reflection on Holly's car. And when Holly rounded the corner, that's when they think he struck.

"All the time it stays on my mind,"said Clint Bobo.

He watched through the kitchen door as his sister's captor escorted her into the woods.

"The last I seen them, they were walking past those two trees back there to the left of that tree house," he said.

Next, they walked down a 4-wheeler path in the nearby woods. The Bobo family dog, Champ, followed, wagging his tail the whole way.

It's a two-minute walk to the main road. Holly's family believes he, whoever he is, had a car waiting on the other side. They do not know if he had help.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/21129464/never-seen-before-images-in-holly-bobo-case

Anybody else wonder why her dog wouldn't bark at this guy ??

If my dog was with me, and picked up on my fear, he would attack. This is so odd!

 

[steelman]

If my dog was with me, and picked up on my fear, he would attack. This is so odd!

I've got a couple of chihuahua's that would raise hell if there was a stranger crouching in my driveway.

Makes me wonder if the dog was familiar with this person.

 

[spooky24]

After going over all the files and motions as per the legal case-in which a very limited amount is available-and the archive at wsmv and wtvf along with the Tennessean and statements from local sources the following opinion is reached.

There is no physical evidence whatsoever that a crime has even been committed. In the eyes of the law the victim could still be alive.

The Grand Jury indictment is troublesome. I, or anyone else, will never know just what was presented to convince the panel to return a true bill.

The 'planned' media leaks of hearsay evidence is the most troublesome of all aspects of this investigation. By my count there have been 5 planned 'leaks' to be released to the public.

There is a time and place in which releasing titbits of information into the public sphere for effect by criminal investigators is called for and may help aspects of the case. However, these circumstances are quite rare, and tactics such as this are ripe for abuse and fraught with consequences. This stinks to high heaven and the smell is beyond the realm of desperation and a last ditch hail Mary pass.

Media 'leaks' in criminal investigations have various names attached to them over the centuries such as an old gumshoe might call it 'shaking the tree' more modern description would 'get some tongues flapping' or 'run it up the Maypole'. One of the most famous would be the 'accidental' release of the list of bridges that would be staked out by police in the Atlanta child murders. The suspect, a cunning and clever killer, knew the list was released just for him to see, and as he enjoyed taunting the investigation, he interpreted the list as ones they would NOT be guarding. A little after midnight a loud splash was heard in the Chattahoochee River near the Jackson bridge. After that no more children died as the killer had outsmarted himself.

The problem in this case-as to the media leaks-is not just there is no crime scene-there is not even proof that a crime has been committed.

From this I deduce 3 things.

There is, and has been, a tremendous amount of pressure on individuals, and groups of individuals of a professional nature, to show results in this case. That has led to some very non professional conduct that has an air of desperation that everyone can feel. The arrest of some local hoodlums, their confinement without bail under circumstances in which there is no evidence whatsoever that a capitol crime has even been committed, will haunt this case forever. A grand jury true bill gives the investigators the legal right to continue the case in the form of a sealed indictment-which was leaked to the media a full day-before the issuance of arrest warrants. This strategy is quite simple to ascertain-scare these hooligans into blaming, or better put, ratting on each other, to save their own skin. This, of course, is banking on the fact that they are guilty. If they had nothing to do with it then you have an enormous mess on your hands. An enormous mess describes this case to perfection.

The use of the media in this investigation is already a hot topic of appeal if, and if ever, there is a successful prosecution in this capitol murder and aggravated kidnapping case that at this point is totally hypothetical. Evidence was presented to the grand jury, in some form, that convinced them a kidnapping and murder had been committed by the individuals that were the subject of the indictment. This indictment will be unsealed if and when a trial is convened however a gag order will prevent it's details from ever emerging during the trial and sentencing phase. After that it's fair game.

A good example of this would be after Scott Peterson conviction and sentencing a fact from the grand jury presentation came out as the result of some dogged, relentless and determined investigation by Catherine Crier. It seems that Laci had pawned her beloved jewelry, and along with Scott, has borrowed money on other things as well. The panel was told that Scott had forged her signature to get money to buy a Christmas present for Amber's daughter. That was a total lie and complete fabrication by the district attorneys office who knew this did not happen. Lacy's mother in her book left it open and claimed 'not to understand it'. Scott's appeal on this issue was denied.

So, it happens. Fabrications are told to grand juries to get cases moved along. In most cases it falls into a grey area that can simply be described as 'in the grand scheme of things it really didn't matter'. No system of justice is perfect.

There is no basis in fact that the victim-if there is one-ever left the area by car. The automobiles connected to the hoodlums are accounted for(can't really tell you how I know that just yet-perhaps in a few days) and the release of this information on the third day of the search is troubling. A WSMV reporter mentions this during a voice over showing helicopters and men/women on horseback preparing for a search-of something. How a search for a missing person-in this terrain-from horseback is downright silly if this subject was not so serious. The dozens, if not hundreds, of places in this area to dispose of human remains, not a single one can be accessed from a saddle or helicopter seat. You might convince an old Burro or a friendly Donkey down in those drain basins to check for washouts and cave openings but a horse-never.

This is in line with the thinking-by many people at this point- that childish arguments over jurisdiction from local authorities over the heavy handed attitude of both the FBI and TBI is what began the brain fade that has followed this case from day one. It took 8 months to finally get around to doing any kind of real search of the flora that should have been done in the first 48 hours.

Again, I and others, hope this analysis is wrong. The local hoodlums-as they are being referred too-are involved in the fact that the victims whereabouts are unknown. Perhaps, as a result of dumb luck, lackluster or uncooperative police work or even cleaver planning-highly doubtful-are why this disappearance is unsolved.

 

[maskedwoman]

Anybody else wonder why her dog wouldn't bark at this guy ??[/QUOTE]

Well, we don't really know that the dog didn't bark at first. Holly isn't here to tell us and Clint was asleep. Although, I have a vague recollection that dogs barking woke him up? In any event, I think it depends on the dog's personality. Our German Shepherd would not have let the guy take me away without a fight. Our black lab would sneak up behind him and maybe bite him, but she's a very sweet, docile dog, so maybe not. Our dachshund would be oblivious to anything but whether a treat is coming. He might behave differently if I started fighting and screaming, but I can't be sure since he's never seen me do that.

 

[reedus23]

Anybody else wonder why her dog wouldn't bark at this guy ??[/COLOR]

I have had some dogs that bark at anyone walking down the street. I have had other dogs that never barked at anyone, even if they came to the door or inside the house.

 

[reedus23]

spooky,

The system will play itself out. Either the DA has enough to convict or they don't. We simply have no way of knowing at this point. All we know is that they had enough to support indictments, whatever that means. As for leaks, my take is just the opposite. The Judge flatly refused to place a gag order on the case, which (if I remember correctly) was sought by the prosecution and argued against by the defense, which means I don't know if one could call them "leaks". I suppose the DA could have a press conference and layout all of their evidence if he wanted to. Given that, the one thing I'm fairly confident about is that media coverage/leaks while it might be made part of an appeal if a conviction is obtained, I don't think it would actually lead to a reversal on appeal.

 

[pearl]

Channel 4 also spoke with her brother, Clint Bobo, who was the last to see her.
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Anybody else wonder why her dog wouldn't bark at this guy ??

Snipped by me for brevity. Sometimes when there is a dog on the premises, the criminal will get acquainted with the dog before committing the crime so the dog will not sound an alarm. For me personally, my beloved golden retriever would probably open the front door and invite someone in. I'm pretty sure the concept of danger has never entered this dog's mind.

 

[SteveS]

Yes, but do we know for sure what really motivated the witness to lie, IF they did? No, we don't. Could be the reward could be something very personal to this person like revenge, or trying to get a deal of their own for unrelated charges.

I guess I don't think the reward was the main motivator because the media asked Jeff Pearcy if he knew who the person was and he said yes, and they then asked why this person would tell TBI he showed them a video and JP alluded to the fact the person probably wanted to get some deal of their own. Not exact quote but close. I believe he also mentioned the revenge angle as well. He knows the person and knows best what could possibly be their motivation for lying. Until we know who it is, we'll never know for sure. That's all I was stating in my previous post.

No JP did NOT say it was a revenge angle. That's something that apparently YOU have read into it, that he never said or even alluded to.

What JP said was that there must have been "some reason" she might lie, and that he didn't know for sure but he thought he might could guess. Of course, there was an obvious thing out there to guess - the MONEY. Big green piles, and 250,000 of them. I have to believe that he would guess that because it's so obvious if you're wondering "what the hell is THIS" and then he realizes "oh yeah, a quarter of a million, that's the game being played here." In fact, it seems to me that anyone who doesn't see that big a reward as a MAJOR motivator to everything suddenly emerging from the woodwork has lost touch with real life somehow.

But hey, if you want to ignore that small fortune and pretend that there's some mysterious origin to the ensuing eagerness to point fingers and conjure up criminals where none existed, have at it. But count me out. Occam's razor, I go for the obvious when it stares me in the face.

 

[aussiegran]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no need for you to try and belittle them.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

No JP did NOT say it was a revenge angle. That's something that apparently YOU have read into it, that he never said or even alluded to.

What JP said was that there must have been "some reason" she might lie, and that he didn't know for sure but he thought he might could guess. Of course, there was an obvious thing out there to guess - the MONEY. Big green piles, and 250,000 of them. I have to believe that he would guess that because it's so obvious if you're wondering "what the hell is THIS" and then he realizes "oh yeah, a quarter of a million, that's the game being played here." In fact, it seems to me that anyone who doesn't see that big a reward as a MAJOR motivator to everything suddenly emerging from the woodwork has lost touch with real life somehow.

But hey, if you want to ignore that small fortune and pretend that there's some mysterious origin to the ensuing eagerness to point fingers and conjure up criminals where none existed, have at it. But count me out. Occam's razor, I go for the obvious when it stares me in the face.

My opinions only, no facts here:

Well-stated. A quarter of a million clams is still a large sum of money, even in our times.

If I lived in the area where Holly Bobo disappeared, I would have been out every weekend for the past three years looking for clues.

 

[evelyn24]

evelyn: "Considering the reward has been around for three years"

$250,000? I don't think that same reward has been around that long. As I understand it, the amount went up and the terms to collect it became much more lenient just a few months ago (about the same time we started seeing arrests, not coincidentally imo).

No JP did NOT say it was a revenge angle. That's something that apparently YOU have read into it, that he never said or even alluded to.

What JP said was that there must have been "some reason" she might lie, and that he didn't know for sure but he thought he might could guess. Of course, there was an obvious thing out there to guess - the MONEY. Big green piles, and 250,000 of them. I have to believe that he would guess that because it's so obvious if you're wondering "what the hell is THIS" and then he realizes "oh yeah, a quarter of a million, that's the game being played here." In fact, it seems to me that anyone who doesn't see that big a reward as a MAJOR motivator to everything suddenly emerging from the woodwork has lost touch with real life somehow.

But hey, if you want to ignore that small fortune and pretend that there's some mysterious origin to the ensuing eagerness to point fingers and conjure up criminals where none existed, have at it. But count me out. Occam's razor, I go for the obvious when it stares me in the face.

Yea, you need to take it down a notch or two. Since I've lost touch with real life you might wanna ignore my posts from this point forward.
Nobody has the corner on what is the truth on this matter, it's an unknown factor. What motivates someone to turn in an acquaintance they've known for almost two decades could be a reward, but it's just as possible there are other motivating factors. And you're correct the reward amount has not been 250K for three years, the amount increased to 250K about two and a half years ago. I never said reward money is not a possible motive. I just don't think it was the reason for this particular witness.

My suggestion the witness lied in order to get a deal with authorities to drop or lesson unrelated charges is crazy or some wild unlikely scenario? Really? Lets look at how the other witnesses in this case have come forward with information. We know one witness is Shayne Austin, the other rumored one is Dylan Adams.
Was it for money? No, it was to get a deal with the DA for their own personal benefit, coupled with a very hungry team of people in charge who need more evidence. Money is a big motivating factor, very true. And so is not having to sit your in jail for years and years.

I do apologize, because I was mistaken when I said JP alluded to revenge. He never said that as far as I can tell, but he did mention hearing rumors the person might get something in return for their testimony against him. He was not sure, and none of us are. We won't know what the CI was thinking until we know who the person is, and then people will come forward to spill the truth. Heck we don't even know for sure they intentionally lied. I think they did, but it's not a fact at this point.
Until then my opinion is just as likely, and just as valid as anyone's opinion regarding the video witness.

 

[spooky24]

From the timeline the reward was issued December 13th 2013. The conditions are stated for after conviction. It appears to have nothing to do with the later arrest as the suspects were under suspicion from the very beginning. Currently, in Tennessee, there are 47 different rewards for information for variously missing persons/wanted persons and information. The last one paid for providing information which directly led to the capture of former FBI and TBI Top-Ten Most Wanted Fugitive Adam Christopher Mayes. The amount was $50,000

The condition:

" To protect the safety, anonymity and privacy of those responsible for providing information which directly led to the capture of Mayes, neither the FBI nor TBI will comment further regarding the reward, to include the amount paid, how many individuals were paid, or who was paid"

So no one will ever know. The reward was paid 60 days after the reward was issued for information-there was no condition for conviction.

From the Tennessee annotated code:

"Submission of an affidavit which the person knows to be false in any material regard shall be punishable as perjury. An affiant who permits submission of a false affidavit, knowing it to be false in any material regard, is guilty of perjury. Any person subsequently testifying before the grand jury as to any material fact known by the person to be false is guilty of perjury".

If you lie, in an attempt to collect a reward, either by affidavit or testimony, you will be tried for the Federal offense of perjury.

I have never put much stock in the ability of large rewards to change the course of a case. Simply because most people will gladly turn over information to help the family in their time of need. The rewards for 'any' information on the disappearances of 18 young women in the Northwest totaled $650,000-more than 3 million in today's money when the murder engineered his own capture for the second time.

Someone coming forward with information will be told-in no uncertain terms-of the consequences of their actions.

It seems the information on the robberies of Pearls-which one suspect is reportedly involved came from a tip box set up at the Decatur County Fair. The tip about one subject, later arrested, involved in the raid of methamphetamine and guns, was the brother of the prime subject. The TBI somewhat embarrassed-again-failed to see the connection-again. This tip came in on the TBI/FBI hotline which offers no rewards.