How do you feel about the memorial service planned for Caylee?

[seagull65]

PattyG has posted on this issue and LP just stated again on Headline News, that this was a prayer service, not a memorial service. If you listen to the actual service, not once does Rev G call it a memorial service. It was beautiful.

I heard Mr. Padilla's explanation that it was held at this site because they believe Caylee's body is most likely in the river, that was the reason for the flowers by the river.

I know Mr. Padilla had good intentions and I like him a lot, they definitely should have chosen a different venue and should have considered the family's wishes. They had indeed started out by planning a memorial, but Mr. Grund asked that it be a prayer vigil rather than a memorial. Sounds like it retained some elements of a memorial, unfortunately. All prayers for Caylee are good, I hope people are praying that she will be found alive.

 

[Balthazar]

Clearly Mr. Grund had genuine emotions behind this service and he had asked that it be a prayer vigil, not a memorial, no wreath by the river, etc.

Being a minister, Richard Grund actually understands the difference between a memorial and prayer service.

 

[believe09]

Not A Memorial Service-LP MISSPOKE. Prayer service. It was beautiful and I am not a fan of Rev.Grund.

Of course the Anthony's are saying that they stole the beads. If the decomp smell did not PRECEDE the entry of the BH's into this case, they would be saying it was planted too.

The Anthony's must be getting quite paranoid at this point-in order to maintain their ability to function in this mindset, they have to hold reality at bay-Talk to the hand style. After a while, your arm get's tired. Just sayin. And I still think that they are victim's too,fwiw.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I heard Mr. Padilla's explanation that it was held at this site because they believe Caylee's body is most likely in the river, that was the reason for the flowers by the river.

I know Mr. Padilla had good intentions and I like him a lot, they definitely should have chosen a different venue and should have considered the family's wishes. They had indeed started out by planning a memorial, but Mr. Grund asked that it be a prayer vigil rather than a memorial. Sounds like it retained some elements of a memorial, unfortunately. All prayers for Caylee are good, I hope people are praying that she will be found alive.

And LP stated that he did not mean to use the words memorial either........The only elements I saw, was love and prayers for this precious child.

I don't pray for Caylee to be found alive, I pray that the woman that killed her, her mother, would finally tell someone where she put this precious innocents body. I know that Caylee is safe and in the arms of our Lord.

 

[Jolynna]

I heard Mr. Padilla's explanation that it was held at this site because they believe Caylee's body is most likely in the river, that was the reason for the flowers by the river.

I know Mr. Padilla had good intentions and I like him a lot, they definitely should have chosen a different venue and should have considered the family's wishes. They had indeed started out by planning a memorial, but Mr. Grund asked that it be a prayer vigil rather than a memorial. Sounds like it retained some elements of a memorial, unfortunately. All prayers for Caylee are good, I hope people are praying that she will be found alive.

Actually, if there ever is a family memorial for Caylee, I doubt if RG would be welcome.

For a time RG was Caylee'grandfather. He IS family IMO.

I AM glad he was able to pay tribute to Caylee and was comforted.

 

[Balthazar]

Definitions of Memorial and Funeral Services from About.com:

Memorial Service
Definition:
A memorial service is one that occurs without the body. The services may take place within a day or two of death, or it can be delayed as long as needed, to meet the convenience or needs of the family.

An alternative to the traditional funeral. They incorporate many of the elements of a funeral music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon. Memorial services might be held when a body has been lost at sea, is never recovered (e.g. September 11, 2001), when the body was immediately cremated after death or donated to science.


Funeral
Definition:
A funeral service is with the body present, in a casket that may be open or closed. It is often quickly planned and occurs within a few days of death.

A rite of passage for both the deceased and his/her survivors. The centerpiece of the ritual surrounding death. The traditional service. A funeral service typically includes: music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon focusing on the role of death in human life.

Notice both a Memorial Service and a Funeral are for both the deceased and the survivors of the deceased, by definition, neither event is held for random people who learned about the deceased through the media and felt like holding a service to get closure for themselves!

 

[LI_Mom]

Instead of the Anthonys obsessing over things they cannot control, it seems like today would have been an excellent day for Cindy & George to check out some of those Caylee sightings they allegedly have piling up.

No matter what anybody else chooses to do... the Anthonys should not be so easily distracted.

They've got to SHOW people what their main focus is.... is it searching for a live Caylee or is it monitoring what every person in Orlando is doing & making sure it doesn't offend them?

 

[tekilla]

There is no law that says a person is allowed only one memorial service held only by family members.

I sure hope there is no law against more than one funeral service. Because, last Christmas when my Father passed we had 2 full funeral services for him. One here where we lived and another one 400 miles away where he was born and raised. And a final grave side service on top of the mountain where he was buried.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Definitions of Memorial and Funeral Services from About.com:

Memorial Service
Definition:
A memorial service is one that occurs without the body. The services may take place within a day or two of death, or it can be delayed as long as needed, to meet the convenience or needs of the family.

An alternative to the traditional funeral. They incorporate many of the elements of a funeral music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon. Memorial services might be held when a body has been lost at sea, is never recovered (e.g. September 11, 2001), when the body was immediately cremated after death or donated to science.


Funeral
Definition:
A funeral service is with the body present, in a casket that may be open or closed. It is often quickly planned and occurs within a few days of death.

A rite of passage for both the deceased and his/her survivors. The centerpiece of the ritual surrounding death. The traditional service. A funeral service typically includes: music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon focusing on the role of death in human life.

Notice both a Memorial Service and a Funeral are for both the deceased and the survivors of the deceased, by definition, neither event is held for random people who learned about the deceased through the media and felt like holding a service to get closure for themselves!

Princess...With all due respect, LP has stated that this was not a memorial. He misspoke, he admits it....it was a prayer vigil. Even our wonderful Mod, PattyG has commented that this was not a memorial.

Honestly, what is so wrong with people wanting to come together a have a prayer service for Caylee? Doesn't this world need more love? People came together today for the love of Caylee.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Definitions of Memorial and Funeral Services from About.com:

Memorial Service
Definition:
A memorial service is one that occurs without the body. The services may take place within a day or two of death, or it can be delayed as long as needed, to meet the convenience or needs of the family.

An alternative to the traditional funeral. They incorporate many of the elements of a funeral music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon. Memorial services might be held when a body has been lost at sea, is never recovered (e.g. September 11, 2001), when the body was immediately cremated after death or donated to science.


Funeral
Definition:
A funeral service is with the body present, in a casket that may be open or closed. It is often quickly planned and occurs within a few days of death.

A rite of passage for both the deceased and his/her survivors. The centerpiece of the ritual surrounding death. The traditional service. A funeral service typically includes: music, prayers, readings from scripture, poetry or other prose, a eulogy honoring the life of the deceased and sometimes a sermon focusing on the role of death in human life.

Notice both a Memorial Service and a Funeral are for both the deceased and the survivors of the deceased, by definition, neither event is held for random people who learned about the deceased through the media and felt like holding a service to get closure for themselves!

How would you explain the memorials after 911 for victims as well as the rescuers and the searchers, the OKC bombing, the Sunami victims that were held here in the states?

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I sure hope there is no law against more than one funeral service. Because, last Christmas when my Father passed we had 2 full funeral services for him. One here where we lived and another one 400 miles away where he was born and raised. And a final grave side service on top of the mountain where he was buried.

There is no law and I think it is great. Your Father must have been really special.

 

[txsvicki]

you actually see some people who think since they have followed Caylee's case for 16 weeks that Caylee actually belongs more to them than to her own family or that they love Caylee more than the people who actually know her. It's really strange. I could certainly imagine searchers feeling the need to hold a prayer service, but it's a shame this turned into a memorial service. Caylee is missing. Her body has not been found. It isn't appropriate to memorialize her as if she is dead. Holding prayer vigils, absolutely, tying yellow ribbons to trees or her grandparents' mailbox hoping for her return, absolutely. But this wasn't just prayers, it was a wreath placed by a river, statements that they believe she is in the river dead, etc, not appropriate at this time. Very sad. It sounds like Mr.Grund had suggested they not call it a memorial but instead have a prayer vigil, which Mr. Padilla agreed to, but in the end unfortunately it somehow still turned into a memorial.

Yes, and that's exactly what they intended. Statements saying that she is dead in the river weren't called for. Tim Miller says she's not in the river and there's no proof that is where she was placed. I really hope that citizens and tourists don't stop looking for possible burial sites or anything out of place because of this. Closure isn't needed just yet.

 

[Whisperer]

Do the Anthony's have legal custody now? I don't think so, at least that issue has not been discussed to my knowledge.

If not, they really do not have any "dog in this fight" so to speak. Casey, being the custodial parent, would be the one to make any arrangements, not the GP's, unless she gave them the right.

 

[tekilla]

There is no law and I think it is great. Your Father must have been really special.

He was, thank you.

 

[passionflower]

Actually, if there ever is a family memorial for Caylee, I doubt if RG would be welcome.

For a time RG was Caylee'grandfather. He IS family IMO.

I AM glad he was able to pay tribute to Caylee and was comforted.

It was a heartfelt love that RG gave for CAYLEE, this had to be hard on him as he loved CAYLEE like or more than grandpa A, IMO..........the A family should of been there with 'thanks'........it was a celebration of Caylee with lots of LOVE

 

[LinasK]

I know on many ocassions there are more than one memorial service. Sometimes school chums will hold their own memorial, family may have a private and a public memorial, and others may organize small but respectful memorials. There is not a thing wrong with it. A FUNERAL and a MEMORIAL are not the same thing. A funeral is when the family buries their dead, and in some cases, when there is no body but they have evidence of death, they hold a "memorial funeral" with no body. A memorial can be held by anyone who is intensely emotionally involved, and in this case, strangers have come to know and love Caylee through photos, stories and videos and there is not one thing wrong with them "memorializing" her in respect and honor.:waitasec:

Agreed!:clap::clap: I didn't know most of the people at my mother's funeral, doesn't mean I would have turned them away, or that they had any less right to be there.

 

[LinasK]

With respect, don't speak for others, please.

Some horrible things HAVE happened to my family, thanks for asking. And, we all behaved like civilized adults.

Caylee's death did not "happen," someone DID it. Someone who could get out, get pregnant, and do it, again.

The rest of the family can choose to assist with or obstruct the investigation. They appear to have made that choice.

Quite a few of us know EXACTLY what we'd do.

If a daughter of mine killed a helpless tot, I'd bust her myself.

Of course, that would not happen, because lying and stealing, or other crimes or misbehaviors would not be condoned, in my house.

I would not lie to LE, because it's not only illegal and unproductive, it's STUPID. They have the resources to get the information, anyway. I also would not refuse to cooperate or keep changing the information.

MOO

Me too Brini! Evan's mom does NOT speak for me, because I know exactly how I'd act in the same situation, and it would be like you, not how the Anthony's reacted. This is the old Scott Peterson/OJ/Ramsey's defense. It's how a GUILTY family acts, not one with nothing to hide, IMO...

 

[JaneInOz]

Do the Anthony's have legal custody now? I don't think so, at least that issue has not been discussed to my knowledge.

If not, they really do not have any "dog in this fight" so to speak. Casey, being the custodial parent, would be the one to make any arrangements, not the GP's, unless she gave them the right.

And I don't reckon she will do you ? make arrangements that is - that would be admitting that she knows she is dead !

I am SO GLAD that it was a PRAYER VIGIL and not a Memorial....

 

[legallee]

With respect, we dont need a public memorial to say our goodbyes, celebrate her short life, or anything else.
I light a candle for her each day, send up my prayers and remember her by watching all the videos of her infectious giggle, how safe she felt with her family, and how much she loved them....All the good stuff to counter the bad that we hear and read about everyday.
Anyone who has fallen in love with Caylee, should know that the last thing this beautiful little girl would have wanted is all this ugliness.
Justice needs to be served. But anything beyond that, imo, is what would keep Caylee from resting peacefully...And that is all that I can wish for her now.

I love that Caylee is teaching me so much....definately patience (i'm struggling with that one a bit though...lol)And forgiveness....because being angry and placing blame achieves nothing but more negativity, more pain, more ugliness.
She reminds me everyday that I'm never too busy to give my girls a cuddle or to watch their new dance moves 50 times over.(they are great moves too. )
She reminds me that there are no guarantees in this life, that every moment counts. That one moment can change the lives of so many people.
She's taught me that I dont care about being 'right', i just wanna be happy.
And I think thats the best kind of memorial for Caylee. Even though she's gone, she's making a diffence in peoples lives, for the better....
Ok, time for me to sign off...Emily is saying right now "mummy, watch this!!" More of those new dance moves to see......
Thanks Caylee:blowkiss:

That was beautiful!~ :clap::clap::blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[LinasK]

I could certainly imagine searchers feeling the need to hold a prayer service, but it's a shame this turned into a memorial service. Caylee is missing. Her body has not been found. It isn't appropriate to memorialize her as if she is dead.

Yes it is when her dead hair and DNA decomp were found in her mothers trunk along with high levels of Chloroform that her mother had been researching online! The only logical conclusion is that Caylee is dead, whether you want to believe it or not. If she was fed to the alligators or thrown in a trash dump, her body will never be found. Why deny closure to the searchers and those of us who need it. We obviously do care more about her than those who "knew her well". They sure didn't protect her even if she was kidnapped!