HPV vaccine mandatory for all texas girls

[Kim Ii]

I see that above Evelyn Pringle link isn't working for some reason, so let's try this one. It should work:

http://www.counterpunch.org/pringle01262007.html

 

[Kim Ii]

Here's the link to our son's vaccine reaction story (including cute pic of our son, then 11 years old, with Oscar Mayer, our pup):

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/6_out_of_10,000.htm;

This story isn't indicative of one of my better 'writings,' but still, it illustrates what happened to our son after his birth. Wendy's site is a great site to spend some time in and read when you have the time (and a good cup of coffee).

 

[PrayersForMaura]

However, if history is any guide, people simply don't get vaccinated unless they are required to — at least not in numbers large enough to reduce the rate of a disease. "Mandates provide a reminder," says Dr. Louis Cooper, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics. When several new vaccines came online in the 1950s and '60s, including vaccines for polio, measles, mumps and rubella, disease rates did not decline significantly until states started requiring vaccination for school enrollment, Cooper says.

Although he would recommend that girls receive the vaccine, Cooper believes now is not the right time to push for a mandatory immunization law. The public, he says, is increasingly wary of new vaccines and of medicine in general. "Public trust is at the heart of all public health measures," notes Cooper; pushing for mandatory HPV vaccination now could further erode that trust.

Cooper says there's been a backlash among some groups of parents as the number of required vaccinations has grown. "The public is increasingly skeptical" of new vaccines for all sorts of reasons — medical, religious, political. So in the current climate, he favors waiting awhile before advocating the proposed laws, to afford the public the time to learn about the vaccine and to give health professionals a chance to gather more data on the vaccine's risks and benefits, which could build a compelling case for mandatory vaccination.
Full story: http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/health/la-he-hpv5feb05,1,5322534.story


I understand the parts I bolded and am using articles I read to make my decisions. However, just because people are skeptical doesn't make the vaccination right or wrong.

I guess it's all personal taste.
All I know is ... if I had had a choice, I wish I could've had a vaccination.

 

[Kim Ii]

Dang it...don't know why some of these links aren't working. Here's one more try re: our son's vaccine reaction, with pic of Ryan and our pup:

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/6_out_of_10,000.htm

 

[PrayersForMaura]

From the same article I posted above, a few more points regarding cost and reasons to vaccinate or not vaccinate:

Choice in parents' hands

For now, parents will be the ones to decide whether their daughters get vaccinated. Several major insurers in California are covering the cost of the vaccine — $360 for the three shots — for girls in the recommended age groups. Children who are uninsured or qualify for Medi-Cal can receive the vaccine through the federal Vaccines for Children program.

Doctors report that many parents are inquiring about the vaccine. But choosing the vaccine and favoring a mandatory vaccine are two different things. Although advocates and opponents of mandatory vaccines are receiving the most attention, many parents are like Sarina Araujo — still trying to figure it all out.

Araujo works for the National Cervical Cancer Coalition, a Van Nuys-based nonprofit that provides information about cervical cancer. All three of her daughters will receive the HPV vaccine. "I am hesitant to say that the vaccine should be mandatory," Araujo says.

"But I don't see any reason why anybody would not vaccinate."

http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/health/la-he-hpv5feb05,1,5322534.story

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Here are some facts:

• At least 50% of sexually active people will get HPV at some time in their lives, according to federal statistics.
• Among women with HPV, the vast majority do not develop cervical cancer. But the American Cancer Society estimates that this year, about 11,150 women will be diagnosed as having HPV and 3,670 women will die from the disease. As a result, many public health experts endorse vaccinating girls before they become sexually active.
• The vaccine is relatively expensive. It requires three doses within about six months, each dose costing about $120. It is covered by some major insurers and, in the case of women between the ages of 19 and 26, Medi-Cal will pick up the tab. Girls as young as 9 can qualify for free doses under the federal Vaccines for Children program.
• The California Department of Health Services has already distributed 60,000 doses of the vaccine to healthcare providers, and it is in the process of providing 45,000 more this month.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-hpvbill12feb12,1,5771797.story?coll=la-default-underdog&ctrack=1&cset=true

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Stats from a rather cynical column seemingly against the vaccination Washington D.C. where the bill is also being considered:

• HPV causes cervical cancer in about 10,000 women in the United States each year and kills about 3,700.
• The rate of the disease in the country is 8.8 per 100,000 females, according to the American Cancer Society. But it is up to 13.5 per 100,000 in the District.
• "With January being National Cervical Cancer Awareness Month, now is the perfect time for the District to lead the nation in the fight against what is in essence a preventable disease," said D.C. Council member David A. Catania (I-At Large)
• "During the past two decades, in the face of a sharp increase in the number of recommended pediatric vaccines, unproven theories alleging connections between vaccines and illnesses such as autism, diabetes and multiple sclerosis have been spreading. A social movement involving diverse participants has challenged the safety of vaccinations and mounted attacks in courtrooms and legislatures on compulsory vaccination laws."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/09/AR2007010901780.html

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Questions and Answers: The HPV Vaccine --

• What is the vaccine?
  The vaccine, known as Gardasil, is designed to protect against human papillomavirus (HPV), a sexually transmitted virus that can cause genital warts and cervical cancer. The protection is said to work against four of the more than 100 strains of HPV, but they cause 70 percent of all cervical cancers.

• How common is cervical cancer?
  The American Cancer Society estimates that in 2006, cervical cancer was diagnosed in 9,700 women, and 3,700 died of the disease. The national incidence rate is 8.8 per 100,000 females; the District's rate is 13.5 per 100,000. African American women have the highest death rate of any group.

• Why now?
  In June, the Food and Drug Administration approved Gardasil for women and girls ages 9 to 26, making it the first vaccine marketed specifically to prevent a cancer. Because the vaccine is most effective when administered before an individual becomes sexually active, experts recommend that girls start getting it at 11 or 12.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/11/AR2007011101769.html

 

[Autumn2004]

a lot of drugs have no "long term" studies, unfortunately.
And what's the long term affect of chemotherapy, for example, really?

Take a precaution or don't... either way, there are risks unfortunately.
I can say, without the shot, I went through massive pain and fear.
That is all I know for fact.
Post- or long-term affects could be painful, too. Never know.
But I doubt they are as severe as many people might think.
I am no expert though.

I totally agree. I would've loved to have been helped, personally.

Here's your statement comparing it to chemo which is like comparing apples to oranges. I may be sensitive to this but it is only because this is a subject near and dear to my heart as it is to you. I took offense when your were stating that kim Ii should not be posting here since she had cervical cancer. It is about a vaccine also which she has had bad circumstances from. I personally like ot hear both sides and develop my own opinion.




Your statement-
If parents can prevent something with an option now, then parents have the responsibility if the child develops HPV before they are old enough to make their own decisions.Today 01:11 PM-



What if this is the wrong option and serious side effects happen, obviously kim has had problems with it and she would have preferred the other option of not doing it. Im done with this thread I have said the same things and you say the same things so I may read but Im done with discussions. My personal governor is NOT requiring it since she does not feel enough studies have been done on it where she wants to pursue a required vaccination supourted by the state and it may react negatively on her.

Good day everyone

 

[PrayersForMaura]

From some initial research in 2002:


Vaccine Appears to Prevent Cervical Cancer

Scientists are reporting today that they have created the first vaccine that appears able to prevent cervical cancer. The vaccine works by making people immune to a sexually transmitted virus that causes many cases of the disease.

The vaccine is experimental and will not be available to the public for several years.

A successful vaccine could sharply reduce rates of cervical cancer, which affects 470,000 women a year worldwide and kills 225,000. In the United States, there are 13,000 cases a year and 4,100 deaths.

In a study of 2,392 young women, half of them vaccinated and half given placebo shots, the vaccine was 100 percent effective. Followed for 17 to 27 months, no vaccinated women developed infections or precancerous growths from the virus, whereas 41 nonvaccinated women did become infected, including 9 with precancerous cervical growths. A report on the study is being published today in The New England Journal of Medicine.


Much more on three pages: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9B07E1DB1439F932A15752C1A9649C8B63&fta=y

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Here's your statement comparing it to chemo which is like comparing apples to oranges. I may be sensitive to this but it is only because this is a subject near and dear to my heart as it is to you. I took offense when your were stating that kim Ii should not be posting here since she had cervical cancer. It is about a vaccine also which she has had bad circumstances from. I personally like ot hear both sides and develop my own opinion.



I never had chemo, either.
I don't know what you're talking about. Cervical cancer is different than lung cancer.

If parents can prevent something with an option now, then parents have the responsibility if the child develops HPV before they are old enough to make their own decisions.Today 01:11 PM


What if this is the wrong option and serious side effects happen, obviously kim has had problems with it and she would have preferred the other option of not doing it. Im done with this thread I have said the same things and you say the same things so I may read but Im done with discussions. My personal governor is NOT requiring it since she does not feel enough studies have been done on it where she wants to pursue a required vaccination supourted by the state and it may react negatively on her.

Good day everyone

GOOD GRIEF. For the love of God, I NEVER SAID she shouldn't post here.
I was ASKING if she ever had cervical cancer.

Comparing one vaccine to another is also compariing apples to oranges.

Give me a break! I was citing personal experience, too.
I would hate for someone to think because one vaccine caused someone problems that other vaccines will. This is 2007. Things have to be approved by the FDA and other governmental organizations get involved and things are more advanced that ever before! This isn't some conspiracy theory.

Plus, she has a son.
The son would not receive this particular vaccination.

I was just asking a question.
If anyone is personally attacking anyone, you are!

 

[rayray]

To every drug, there is SOMEONE that has a reaction, whether it is asprin or a vaccine. Should we be against ALL drugs because someone had a reaction to it? I guess penacillin is a HORRIBLE thing too.. heck, people can't take that because of reactions..
My point is that no matter what, not every drug works for everyone.. BUT.. isn't it worth the chance to protect your child from this horrible disease? I wish I would have been able to be protected, and I know PrayersforMaura feels the same way.

 

[Kim Ii]

Here's a link to information regarding the exemptions allowed in Texas regarding vaccinations. Please note, all you Texans, that you now have ALL THREE EXEMPTIONS with regards to vaccinating.

Here's the link: http://www.vaccineinfo.net/releases/parent_groups_support_texas_law.shtml;

And here's a snip:

Parent Groups Support New Texas Vaccine Exemption Law


WASHINGTON, July 8 /PRNewswire/ --

"The National Vaccine Information Center
(NVIC) and Americans for Vaccine Safety and Accountability (AVSA) are joining
with the Texas-based parent organization, Parents Requesting Open Vaccine
Education (PROVE), in voicing strong support for the new Texas vaccine exemption law. The new law allows parents to exercise a conscientious belief exemption to vaccination. Together, all three organizations represent more than 200,000 Americans committed to defending the informed consent rights of citizens to make voluntary health care choices when there is a risk of injury
or death...."

 

[Kim Ii]

I don't know why some of these links don't work the first 'go-around,' but let's try again with that Texas/exemption/vaccines link:

Here goes: http://www.vaccineinfo.net/releases/parent_groups_support_texas_law.shtml

 

[Kim Ii]

Link to MSNBC article regarding warning re: diahrrea vaccine:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17134702/;

And a snip:

WASHINGTON - "The government warned doctors and parents Tuesday of reports of potentially life-threatening twisting of the intestines in infants vaccinated against a virus that is the leading cause of early childhood diarrhea."

"The condition, called intussusception, is the same that led to the withdrawal of the first rotavirus vaccine eight years ago..."