Hunter Biden indicted, federal gun charges, Sept 2023

[PrairieWind]

What is the evidence of money laundering? I’ve seen none of that.

Good question. Where did the 10% for the Big Guy go? Just to Hunter? It appears the IRS was looking for it, but they got shut down by the DOJ. It is easy to say there is no evidence if you don't look for it.

 

[SouthAussie]

How is he cooperating? He intentionally his millions in income, and only paid up when he was caught? Is he helping the DOJ to go after his crooked accountants? No. Is he cooperating by giving details of payments? No.

He (or his accountant) wasn't disorganized in filing his taxes. There was an apparently purposeful attempt to just not report this specific source of income. And lets be honest, if it was legit, it should have been included. He is cooperating now because he was caught 100%. This isn't like some small business not reporting and trying to catch up. And yes some of those do get prosecuted and sent to prison. But all that said, none of it has anything to do with the gun issue. Why was it included? That doesn't make sense. It isn't like the prosecution's evidence wasn't strong and they needed to offer a deal. The evidence was irrefutable. Literally signed and sworn to by the Defendant. The prosecution of people who obtain firearms by false pretenses and commit perjury on ATF forms is not a priority of the DOJ. I think I have heard of people going to prison for lying to federal law enforcement.

We don't know how he is cooperating, do we? Just that multiple sources say he is cooperating.

As for the gun charge being added ... I would guess that probably someone saw the photo of him with the gun and thought why does he have a gun when he is a crack addict? He is the president's son. Let's add the illegal obtaining of a gun to the charge, even if he only had the gun for 11 days.

I am certainly not saying that Hunter did the right thing in not paying his taxes when they were due, just that Joe Public likely would not have been charged for that.

And as for the gun charge, I personally do not have a great impression of the massive availability (legally or illegally) of guns to virtually anyone who wants one in the US, so I won't be commenting any further on that.

 

[happyday]

Well we’ll see what the judge does at the hearing to formalize the plea deal later this month. The Trump appointed prosecutor charged him with these two crimes and that’s all. I’m not seeing much concrete anything from the IRS guys except that they thought Hunter should have been charged for prostitution and sex club membership too and that the justice dept, delayed and if not the investigation COULD have led them to the president. Doesn’t impress me, but who knows. If there’s more to it, then by all means I’m for investigating it.
I just feel like there’s a weird obsession with Hunter Biden, who is not the president. There’s a huge amount of mean spiritedness surrounding it. Like what would make these people happy? If Joe Biden said he doesn’t love him anymore? Is that what they want? It’s just mean. I mean, his son is truly a mess. But that doesn’t seem to be enough for people. If more is revealed then I’ll revisit it.

 

[PrairieWind]

We don't know how he is cooperating, do we? Just that multiple sources say he is cooperating.

As for the gun charge being added ... I would guess that probably someone saw the photo of him with the gun and thought why does he have a gun when he is a crack addict? He is the president's son. Let's add the illegal obtaining of a gun to the charge, even if he only had the gun for 11 days.

I am certainly not saying that Hunter did the right thing in not paying his taxes when they were due, just that Joe Public likely would not have been charged for that.

And as for the gun charge, I personally do not have a great impression of the massive availability (legally or illegally) of guns to virtually anyone who wants one in the US, so I won't be commenting any further on that.

You're right, we don't know he is cooperating because we have seen NO evidence of it. Only evidence clearly to the contrary. So lets have the IRS provide us with the information of how he has cooperated with his tax crime. It appears a certain entity won't allow that to happen.

But again, you are trying combine the two when they have no reason to be. Hunter had a federal tax investigation. He intentionally tried to hide millions of dollars of income. and got caught. An average US citizen goes to prison for that. This isn't a case where a guy got mixed up and couldn't pay. Hunter could pay, he just chose to try to hide the income and that was likely to hide the source because it linked to his father's position as Vice President.

It appears as to the felony gun charge you are just falling back on the old "well he could have gotten a gun anyway" defense. So I assume you will no longer going forward have any comments on US gun laws. Ok. Regardless, the President of the US, the father of the accused, has stated that no American should have such a weapon and vowed to fight gun crime in America. And yet when his OWN son is caught...red handed, signed/sworn statement..... oddly, there are no charges.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Well we’ll see what the judge does at the hearing to formalize the plea deal later this month. The Trump appointed prosecutor charged him with these two crimes and that’s all. I’m not seeing much concrete anything from the IRS guys except that they thought Hunter should have been charged for prostitution and sex club membership too and that the justice dept, delayed and if not the investigation COULD have led them to the president. Doesn’t impress me, but who knows. If there’s more to it, then by all means I’m for investigating it.
I just feel like there’s a weird obsession with Hunter Biden, who is not the president. There’s a huge amount of mean spiritedness surrounding it. Like what would make these people happy? If Joe Biden said he doesn’t love him anymore? Is that what they want? It’s just mean. I mean, his son is truly a mess. But that doesn’t seem to be enough for people. If more is revealed then I’ll revisit it.

You left out the part about the IRS having enough evidence to issue a search warrant on Joe Biden’s guest house and Hunter Biden’s storage unit. We all know what happened with that (linked above).

There’s no weird obsession or mean-spiritedness surrounding HB. Perhaps people are interested because they believe Joe Biden is complicit in all of this. It’s been stated by witnesses and business associates that Joe Biden is “the big guy”.

Nobody here has said JB shouldn‘t love his son. Parents love their children unconditionally and I wouldn’t expect any less from JB.

We do agree on one thing - Hunter Biden is a mess. And it’s his own doing.

 

[ilovewings]

Well we’ll see what the judge does at the hearing to formalize the plea deal later this month. The Trump appointed prosecutor charged him with these two crimes and that’s all. I’m not seeing much concrete anything from the IRS guys except that they thought Hunter should have been charged for prostitution and sex club membership too and that the justice dept, delayed and if not the investigation COULD have led them to the president. Doesn’t impress me, but who knows. If there’s more to it, then by all means I’m for investigating it.
I just feel like there’s a weird obsession with Hunter Biden, who is not the president. There’s a huge amount of mean spiritedness surrounding it. Like what would make these people happy? If Joe Biden said he doesn’t love him anymore? Is that what they want? It’s just mean. I mean, his son is truly a mess. But that doesn’t seem to be enough for people. If more is revealed then I’ll revisit it.

You echo my thoughts!!!

 

[SouthAussie]

It appears as to the felony gun charge you are just falling back on the old "well he could have gotten a gun anyway" defense. So I assume you will no longer going forward have any comments on US gun laws. Ok. Regardless, the President of the US, the father of the accused, has stated that no American should have such a weapon and vowed to fight gun crime in America. And yet when his OWN son is caught...red handed, signed/sworn statement..... oddly, there are no charges.

BBM, UBM

The gun charge states that Hunter Biden possessed a handgun, a Colt Cobra .38 Special, for 11 days in October 2018 despite knowing he was a drug user.
The rarely filed count carries a maximum sentence of up to 10 years in prison ...

Hunter Biden likely to avoid jail with tax and gun case guilty plea

www.9news.com.au

 

[PrairieWind]

BBM, UBM

The gun charge states that Hunter Biden possessed a handgun, a Colt Cobra .38 Special, for 11 days in October 2018 despite knowing he was a drug user.
The rarely filed count carries a maximum sentence of up to 10 years in prison ...

Hunter Biden likely to avoid jail with tax and gun case guilty plea

www.9news.com.au

The Possession is not the crime. It is the documentation he filled out and lied on to obtain the gun that is the crime. But even at that, why is it that this administration, so wildly adamant about fighting gun crime refuses to enforce federal gun crimes? These are slam dunk prosecutions folks. Is he working with prosecutors on this case? No. Was he required to enter rehab and be monitored for this apparent deferment of prosecution? No. He has committed (pretty much admittedly) two felonies. One linked to the President and one in which evidence shows that the Secret Service tried to cover it up. Why is this not a bigger deal?

 

[SouthAussie]

Was he required to enter rehab and be monitored for this apparent deferment of prosecution? No.

He has agreed to enter a pre-trial diversion agreement. Link

"The goal of these programs is to lighten the strain on local courts by diverting low-level, non-violent offenses. They also provide rehabilitation services to the people who could use them, the most." Link

It could be that he is up for attempt #16 at rehabilitation. We don't know at this point in time.

 

[MyBelle]

You're right, we don't know he is cooperating because we have seen NO evidence of it. Only evidence clearly to the contrary. So lets have the IRS provide us with the information of how he has cooperated with his tax crime. It appears a certain entity won't allow that to happen.

But again, you are trying combine the two when they have no reason to be. Hunter had a federal tax investigation. He intentionally tried to hide millions of dollars of income. and got caught. An average US citizen goes to prison for that. This isn't a case where a guy got mixed up and couldn't pay. Hunter could pay, he just chose to try to hide the income and that was likely to hide the source because it linked to his father's position as Vice President.

It appears as to the felony gun charge you are just falling back on the old "well he could have gotten a gun anyway" defense. So I assume you will no longer going forward have any comments on US gun laws. Ok. Regardless, the President of the US, the father of the accused, has stated that no American should have such a weapon and vowed to fight gun crime in America. And yet when his OWN son is caught...red handed, signed/sworn statement..... oddly, there are no charges.

BBM. Yes, let's have the IRS provide to the Congressional Committee ALL of the evidence of the felonies.

How many years did Al Capone spend in prison for tax evasion?

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

The Possession is not the crime. It is the documentation he filled out and lied on to obtain the gun that is the crime. But even at that, why is it that this administration, so wildly adamant about fighting gun crime refuses to enforce federal gun crimes? These are slam dunk prosecutions folks. Is he working with prosecutors on this case? No. Was he required to enter rehab and be monitored for this apparent deferment of prosecution? No. He has committed (pretty much admittedly) two felonies. One linked to the President and one in which evidence shows that the Secret Service tried to cover it up. Why is this not a bigger deal?

BBM. Bingo! The breaking for federal gun control laws should be a very big deal to everyone. Joe Biden knew his son had broken the law.

Considering Delaware passed a Red Flag law in 2018, why didn't Hunter Biden's family alert LE that their drug-addicted family member was in possession of a gun?

JMO

 

[happyday]

Hunter Biden probe unravels over missing informant Gal Luft's China ties

Luft, who accused the Biden family of corruption, has been indicted on charges of acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

www.newsweek.com

“Republicans' probe into Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, may have been dealt a major blow after federal charges were filed against a man accusing the Biden family of corruption.”

So the whistleblower has been indicted for being a Chinese spy.

 

[happyday]

Hunter Biden prosecutor says Justice Dept didn't interfere in probe

The federal prosecutor overseeing the criminal case against U.S. President Joe Biden's son Hunter on Monday said the Justice Department never impeded him from bringing charges, appearing to debunk claims made by an Internal Revenue Service whistleblower.

www.reuters.com

Also this….

WASHINGTON, July 10 (Reuters) - The federal prosecutor overseeing the criminal case against U.S. President Joe Biden's son Hunter on Monday said the Justice Department never impeded him from bringing charges, appearing to debunk claims made by an Internal Revenue Service whistleblower.

 

[MyBelle]

Hunter Biden probe unravels over missing informant Gal Luft's China ties

Luft, who accused the Biden family of corruption, has been indicted on charges of acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

www.newsweek.com

“Republicans' probe into Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, may have been dealt a major blow after federal charges were filed against a man accusing the Biden family of corruption.”

So the whistleblower has been indicted for being a Chinese spy.

He's not the IRS whistleblower. iirc, the whistleblower's name is Shapely.

JMO

 

[PrairieWind]

Hunter Biden probe unravels over missing informant Gal Luft's China ties

Luft, who accused the Biden family of corruption, has been indicted on charges of acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

www.newsweek.com

“Republicans' probe into Hunter Biden, President Joe Biden's son, may have been dealt a major blow after federal charges were filed against a man accusing the Biden family of corruption.”

So the whistleblower has been indicted for being a Chinese spy.

This isn't the whistleblower and would also seem to open more questions. Good grief.

 

[Vern]

He's the "Biden Corruption" allegations whistleblower. This seems to be happeneing a lot lately with the bogus photos of POTUS coming out etc. Feels like it's getting really hard to believe anything the GOP alledges these days rather than just Trump.

MSN

www.msn.com

The 57-year-old fugitive has become a key figure in Republican-led corruption investigations into President Joe Biden, accusing him, his son Hunter Biden and other family members of having improper financial arrangements with the China-controlled energy company CEFC.

 

[happyday]

He's not the IRS whistleblower. iirc, the whistleblower's name is Shapely.

JMO

Right, he’s the missing witness they kept talking about, not the IRS whistleblower. Shapely is the IRS whistleblower that the prosecutor is saying is lying.

 

[MyBelle]

Right, he’s the missing witness they kept talking about, not the IRS whistleblower. Shapely is the IRS whistleblower that the prosecutor is saying is lying.

And Shapely is saying the prosecutor is lying.

 

[happyday]

He's the "Biden Corruption" allegations whistleblower. This seems to be happeneing a lot lately with the bogus photos of POTUS coming out etc. Feels like it's getting really hard to believe anything the GOP alledges these days rather than just Trump.

MSN

www.msn.com

The 57-year-old fugitive has become a key figure in Republican-led corruption investigations into President Joe Biden, accusing him, his son Hunter Biden and other family members of having improper financial arrangements with the China-controlled energy company CEFC.

Yes, on one hand he’s sleepy Joe, and then on the other hand he’s the cocaine fueled mastermind of a crime family. Just really really wanting it to be true doesn’t make it true. Actual evidence might mean something, but just saying something is true doesn’t make it so. The prosecutor who charged Hunter Biden was appointed by Trump. He has no loyalty to the Bidens, and he’s saying all this talk about DOJ interfering is BS, and if he wanted to charge more, he would have. The investigation is ongoing though, so if there’s more we’ll, find out.

 

[happyday]

And Shapely is saying the prosecutor is lying.

But the prosecutor was appointed by Trump and has no loyalty to the Bidens.