Hurricane Katrina Disaster Updates

[Ntegrity]

He says he has enough gas to get there & is hoping he has enough to get back. He's leaving the gas cans at the house with Tammy for the generator.

We're not having a gas crisis here ... YET. I expect it will come, but for now we seem to be doing okay.

 

[Dark Knight]

A story on the federal government's response, including some stuff done for the first time ever:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050831/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_katrina

 

[Mom2threestooges]

I'm in northwest Indiana. Our gas prices as of yesterday hovered between $2.59 and $2.71 a gallon. Today we are paying $3.26. Ouch.

 

[Dark Knight]

(AP) Bernie Pinsonat, a bipartisan pollster with Southern Media and Opinion Research in Baton Rouge, La., said the president — along with local political figures — may eventually be blamed for circumstances that led to the flooding of New Orleans."When the people of Louisiana quit being awed by the destruction, they're going to start asking questions. What happened to the water pumps? Why didn't the levees hold? I think there will be a lot of fingerpointing once political officials stop trying to get face time on TV and the public demands answers," Pinsonat said.

 

[Ntegrity]

Oh, geez. Now Bush is responsible for doing local government's job too? :doh:

 

[heavenlydaze]

That's just 15 minutes from where I live!!!

Ntegrity, I just PM'd you.

 

[Dark Knight]

Oh, geez. Now Bush is responsible for doing local government's job too? :doh:

Apparently some people are already commenting on the money spent for Iraq and the local National Guard troops being away from home and such contributing to the problem. Go figure. The levee and pump problem, as I mentioned in another post, has been talked about for years without any response from local officials, so I cannot see the blame for that being put on the Iraq expenses. *shrugs* The local officials will take most of the heat, at some point, I am guessing.

 

[concernedperson]

Oh, geez. Now Bush is responsible for doing local government's job too? :doh:

Remember the other night before the storm hit and I was starting to panic? All of us with history of Louisiana knew this was possible and have known for 30 years. It was the perfect storm for the scenario....when it wobbled right a little I was relieved shortly, then the levee broke.

This is one of the reasons we left Louisiana many years ago. My ex was with the Corps of Engineers there and no matter how many reports they would send to city and state officials, all would be ignored.The Corps of Engineers were known as the enemy in a lot of local folks minds. Ignorance and denial were the norm and they didn't want to change. All they were worried about was crayfish.

 

[nanandjim]

I'm just glad that a poster (whose husband works on one of those oil rigs, I think) told us to fill up on gas right away. I'm glad that I listened to her.

 

[Dark Knight]

Remember the other night before the storm hit and I was starting to panic? All of us with history of Louisiana knew this was possible and have known for 30 years. It was the perfect storm for the scenario....when it wobbled right a little I was relieved shortly, then the levee broke.

This is one of the reasons we left Louisiana many years ago. My ex was with the Corps of Engineers there and no matter how many reports they would send to city and state officials, all would be ignored.The Corps of Engineers were known as the enemy in a lot of local folks minds. Ignorance and denial were the norm and they didn't want to change. All they were worried about was crayfish.

THANK YOU! This was what I was trying to say last night, which a couple ppl didn't wanna hear.

ETA: The Led Zeppelin version of "When The Levee Breaks" is now stuck in my head! :doh:

 

[Dark Knight]

From my other post, in case anyone missed it:

Here is a link to several organizations helping the victims of Hurricane Katarina, including PETS! You can either donate money or find volunteer opportunities:

http://www.networkforgood.org/topic...AHOO&cmpgn=NEWS

Pass it along to others who might wish to help, as well.

 

[concernedperson]

Another horrible story being reported right now on CNN. Chris Lawrence just arrived in NO and police officers are siphoning gas from abandoned cars to keep going, no communication, roughing it out as far as food and water. 6 or 7 of them are banded together.People are walking out of the city.

If there ever was a time for the military, IT IS NOW!

Bushy was just talking about the many agencies participating but he never addressed the hard questions. This isn't Iraq this is America. What is wrong with our leaders??????????

 

[Buzz Mills]

From my other post, in case anyone missed it:

Here is a link to several organizations helping the victims of Hurricane Katarina, including PETS! You can either donate money or find volunteer opportunities:

http://www.networkforgood.org/topic...AHOO&cmpgn=NEWS

Pass it along to others who might wish to help, as well.

The Red Cross here is sending volunteers through a two day crash training course, it normally takes over a month to train. After the two day training these volunteers will immediately be sent into the disaster area. If I thought I could stand the heat and humidity I would volunteer, but I would wilt immediately in that oppressive heat.

 

[concernedperson]

Read this heartwrenching story.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/31/katrina.hospitals/index.html

 

[Buzz Mills]

Apparently some people are already commenting on the money spent for Iraq and the local National Guard troops being away from home and such contributing to the problem. Go figure. The levee and pump problem, as I mentioned in another post, has been talked about for years without any response from local officials, so I cannot see the blame for that being put on the Iraq expenses. *shrugs* The local officials will take most of the heat, at some point, I am guessing.

it is almost impossible to plan for any, and all, contingencies. If the pumps didn't fail, then it would be because the levees couldn't handle a Category 4 hurricane. To take levees that would handle a Category 3 hurricane, and make them so they can withstand a Category 5 Hurricane, would probably triple their overall size, and cost, and even then they wouldn't be considered failsafe. There's always going to be a weakness somewhere. Bush just approved the massive Energy Bill, replete with a lot of pork barrel projects. I haven't read the bill but it might be interesting to see if there was anything in it for New Orleans, and what else they had in it for Louisiana. It should probably be on the internet; when I have time I'll see if I can find anything.

 

[concernedperson]

it is almost impossible to plan for any, and all, contingencies. If the pumps didn't fail, then it would be because the levees couldn't handle a Category 4 hurricane. To take levees that would handle a Category 3 hurricane, and make them so they can withstand a Category 5 Hurricane, would probably triple their overall size, and cost, and even then they wouldn't be considered failsafe. There's always going to be a weakness somewhere. Bush just approved the massive Energy Bill, replete with a lot of pork barrel projects. I haven't read the bill but it might be interesting to see if there was anything in it for New Orleans, and what else they had in it for Louisiana. It should probably be on the internet; when I have time I'll see if I can find anything.

Please post it when you can. The other issue is Sen. Mary Landrieu who is rallying for more money for the marshland but is not considering the effects of the levees. It is like we want it all. Don't trust her at all.

 

[BarnGoddess]

(AP) Bernie Pinsonat, a bipartisan pollster with Southern Media and Opinion Research in Baton Rouge, La., said the president — along with local political figures — may eventually be blamed for circumstances that led to the flooding of New Orleans."When the people of Louisiana quit being awed by the destruction, they're going to start asking questions. What happened to the water pumps? Why didn't the levees hold? I think there will be a lot of fingerpointing once political officials stop trying to get face time on TV and the public demands answers," Pinsonat said.

DK, which president is responsible, which governor, which officials? Those presently in office? Can we go back and start with Huey P Long? How about the French who founded NO? Mmmmmm......maybe the French should pay for the rebuilding.

For someone to blame President Bush for an age-old problem that was never addressed and fixed in the past is way stupid.

Sounds like all their planning was "what if, what if, nah, it'll never happen". Insert the cajun saying here for "let the good times roll", I can't think of it now, maybe one of our La natives knows the phrase and can post it.

 

[concernedperson]

DK, which president is responsible, which governor, which officials? Those presently in office? Can we go back and start with Huey P Long? How about the French who founded NO? Mmmmmm......maybe the French should pay for the rebuilding.

For someone to blame President Bush for an age-old problem that was never addressed and fixed in the past is way stupid.

Sounds like all their planning was "what if, what if, nah, it'll never happen". Insert the cajun saying here for "let the good times roll", I can't think of it now, maybe one of our La natives knows the phrase and can post it.

Bon temps roulette, as best as I can remember.

 

[BarnGoddess]

Bon temps roulette, as best as I can remember.

Thanks, CP, I have heard that so many times in the past, regarding NO. I have a classmate who lives there now and invites us all to come every time we have a reunion. He's really good with the local cajun lingo and accent, even though he's a Miami Boy. I haven't been able to find him yet, I keep in touch by e-mail. In fact we were thinking of having a mini-reunion in NO sometime soon.

 

[Buzz Mills]

The looters are apparently stealing guns. They are saying there is a lot of gunfire in the city. The city and lake are at the same water level now.