Hurricane Katrina Disaster Updates

[less0305]

Just heard on FoxNews that the mayor of NO authorized forced evacuations if necessary.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168644,00.html

I think this is going to cause a major problem and more criticisms. Just as soon as a national guardsman has to forcibly remove an elderly woman or man from their home, with a news camera covering the entire thing, who will catch the heat.....the national guard and the government - again. But that's just my own personal thinking. I hope and pray it goes smoothly and there isn't any real force used. I'll put that on my prayer list - Please, help people understand it isn't safe or productive to stay in the city at this particular time and take help out for right now.

 

[MrsMush99]

My hope is, is that they will tell them, Look if you don't want to come out, we're going to have force you, please don't make us do that, and then they will go willingly. That's my hope anyway, I figure that's not going to happen much.

 

[amandab]

I think they should do what has been done in other places in the past when it comes to evacuations. Go door to door telling people they have to leave, and if they refuse, give them a permanent marker to write their ss#'s on themselves so they can be identified.

 

[MrsMush99]

I think they should do what has been done in other places in the past when it comes to evacuations. Go door to door telling people they have to leave, and if they refuse, give them a permanent marker to write their ss#'s on themselves so they can be identified.

Oh that's a good idea. That might scare them enough to make them leave.

 

[concernedperson]

CNN reporting that FEMA contacted Charleston, SC officials and informed them that a plane with 155 people was on the way.All needed medical help. Charleston scrambled to get ambulances, medics, doctors and nurses etc. to the airport. They waited and waited. The plane never arrived.

Recent screw ups....within the last 24 hours. We don't have to go back very far.

 

[Dara]

CNN reporting that FEMA contacted Charleston, SC officials and informed them that a plane with 155 people was on the way.All needed medical help. Charleston scrambled to get ambulances, medics, doctors and nurses etc. to the airport. They waited and waited. The plane never arrived.

Recent screw ups....within the last 24 hours. We don't have to go back very far.

It's terrible to read. There are so many stories like this. And it begs the question: who is in charge? Are Chertoff and Brown, widely decried as having made grave errors, still in place?

I know things are better, but there are still so many stories like this. Far too many.

 

[Mabel]

CNN reporting that FEMA contacted Charleston, SC officials and informed them that a plane with 155 people was on the way.All needed medical help. Charleston scrambled to get ambulances, medics, doctors and nurses etc. to the airport. They waited and waited. The plane never arrived.

Recent screw ups....within the last 24 hours. We don't have to go back very far.

The evacuees that were expected in Charleston, SC ended up in Charleston, WV...it's happened twice so far. 300 evacuees that Michigan prepared for yesterday were also sent someplace else. It's a good thing donations are pouring in with as much money as is being wasted on mistakes.

 

[Dara]

As I posted in another thread, CNN reported that Chertoff went into a meeting on Capitol Hill last night and said conditions in the SuperDome weren't as bad as reported. Now, in the other thread, that generated a "Well, the MAYOR put them there," which is, you know, a point that should be considered, however I am more concerned for people still not getting help while the head guy is downplaying and spinning.

If the focus, or one focus, of the higher ups is on PR and CYA, this is what you get.

Yeah, let's not play the blame game. Let's play the "we're blameless" game.

 

[MrsMush99]

Just in on FoxNews, Forced Evacuations will begin today.

 

[Dark Knight]

As I posted in another thread, CNN reported that Chertoff went into a meeting on Capitol Hill last night and said conditions in the SuperDome weren't as bad as reported. Now, in the other thread, that generated a "Well, the MAYOR put them there," which is, you know, a point that should be considered, however I am more concerned for people still not getting help while the head guy is downplaying and spinning.

If the focus, or one focus, of the higher ups is on PR and CYA, this is what you get.

Yeah, let's not play the blame game. Let's play the "we're blameless" game.

Yeah, it was so "not that bad" that they will have to tear down the Superdome. :doh:

 

[amandab]

I'm sorry if I missed it in all of the news, but whatever became of the people trapped in Charity Hospital? I heard they were being evacuated, then not, then evacuated, then not b/c people were shooting at them.....

 

[marrigotti]

Yeah, it was so "not that bad" that they will have to tear down the Superdome. :doh:

Didn't the hurricane seriously damage the roof of the Superdome?

 

[cynder]

Are they going to arrange for them to take their pets with them? How about their personal belongings? If they own a business? One with valuable inventory? Are they going to bring in moving trucks for them? Can they guarantee that their home or business will still be there when they return? Are they going to give them the information on the condition of their home? The current status? Help them file insurance on a home or business they cannot obtain a status on? Is every building in NO going to just be automatically declared a total loss?
A mandatory forced evacuation just sounds so simple doesn't it? But there are numerous obstacles - for instance I wouldn't leave without my pets, no way and it's obvious that there has thus far been little done to resolve this issue....just one of hundreds of unresolved issues that no solutions have been forthcoming for.
Where is the leadership? Where are the great minds and the legendary innovative American ingenuity? It's as if the entire country has been instantly paralyzed by indecision and red tape.
Please oh please, somewhere there must be one person (or a cohesive group of people) who can step forward and break this log jam. We need a polarizing force to unite behind.

 

[less0305]

I'm sorry if I missed it in all of the news, but whatever became of the people trapped in Charity Hospital? I heard they were being evacuated, then not, then evacuated, then not b/c people were shooting at them.....

I'm pretty sure they said everyone has been evacuated from all hospitals.

 

[less0305]

Are they going to arrange for them to take their pets with them? How about their personal belongings? If they own a business? One with valuable inventory? Are they going to bring in moving trucks for them? Can they guarantee that their home or business will still be there when they return? Are they going to give them the information on the condition of their home? The current status? Help them file insurance on a home or business they cannot obtain a status on? Is every building in NO going to just be automatically declared a total loss?
A mandatory forced evacuation just sounds so simple doesn't it? But there are numerous obstacles - for instance I wouldn't leave without my pets, no way and it's obvious that there has thus far been little done to resolve this issue....just one of hundreds of unresolved issues that no solutions have been forthcoming for.
Where is the leadership? Where are the great minds and the legendary innovative American ingenuity? It's as if the entire country has been instantly paralyzed by indecision and red tape.
Please oh please, somewhere there must be one person (or a cohesive group of people) who can step forward and break this log jam. We need a polarizing force to unite behind.

Dunno....the mayor called that shot. I don't imagine he has much of a plan as far as we've seen.

 

[Details]

I think this is going to cause a major problem and more criticisms. Just as soon as a national guardsman has to forcibly remove an elderly woman or man from their home, with a news camera covering the entire thing, who will catch the heat.....the national guard and the government - again. But that's just my own personal thinking. I hope and pray it goes smoothly and there isn't any real force used. I'll put that on my prayer list - Please, help people understand it isn't safe or productive to stay in the city at this particular time and take help out for right now.

Someone will resist, and I'm sure a news camera will cover it. Hopefully the general public can think with their heads and not their emotions, and realize that as unpleasant as it is, it's necessary to evacuate the city, and that this person made the choice about the method used. They could have gone peacefully.

 

[less0305]

You really have to hand it to anyone who is working as hard as they can....24/7 in mass confusion without working communications, without rest, without the essentials of daily living and willing to continue your job and then make a mistake like filling out a paper for someone to go to WV and what someone else meant was SC. What clerk or pilot or traffic controller could withstand the public hanging they would get if they made a mistake? If I were the clerical person or pilot that put down the wrong info or made a mistake.... Well, God bless them because if anyone makes a mistake I guess people want a public lynching. I'm guilty of criticizing the Mayor and the Governor... Honestly, now I'm rethinking having dealt out one single piece of criticism. No one on this earth is above making a mistake. I'm just so saddened and feel true shame now and truly sick to my stomach that I've been so critical.

 

[less0305]

Someone will resist, and I'm sure a news camera will cover it. Hopefully the general public can think with their heads and not their emotions, and realize that as unpleasant as it is, it's necessary to evacuate the city, and that this person made the choice about the method used. They could have gone peacefully.

Oh, I just heard the Governor say that she has not signed any orders for anyone to be forcibly evacuated. She says the Mayor can't do it without her consent and she's not issuing that mandate right now.

 

[Ntegrity]

Oh, I just heard the Governor say that she has not signed any orders for anyone to be forcibly evacuated. She says the Mayor can't do it without her consent and she's not issuing that mandate right now.

They're dealing with voluntary evacuations first and will deal with the reluctant ones later. Hopefully by then they'll agree to go without a fuss.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Oh, I just heard the Governor say that she has not signed any orders for anyone to be forcibly evacuated. She says the Mayor can't do it without her consent and she's not issuing that mandate right now.

So are we still at the point where the Mayor says yes, she says no? Do they not have AT LEAST one daily briefing of oh, I dunno, important things like whether to make mandatory evacutation, "mandatory?" :banghead: