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nanandjim said:Do you see this on television??
Yes and the reporter tried to address it with one of the Officers and was told to get out of the store. They were pushing a shopping cart loading it up. The store was full of looters at the time.
nanandjim
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What a sad state of affairs. I sure hope that the faces can be clearly seen because I would think that these guys would be fired and prosecuted.tybee204 said:
nanandjim
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I agree. However, I was making the assumption that, because they refused to talk with the reporter, they were up to no good.Ntegrity said:
Cypros
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tybee204 said:
I did hear one interview where some police officers said they were ordered to the store to get supplies for victims, but I don't know if that was the only case. I did see some video footage of female police officers that looked to be "shopping".
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"We (Andy, Kitty, the dogs and I) finally got out of Memorial Medical Center (Baptist) yesterday (Thursday). It was a nightmare. We went to the hospital on Sunday night (we usually go there to volunteer for the hurricanes because they always end of being short staffed and need people). After the hurricane on Monday, everything looked somewhat ok and none of the mayhem had started. On Monday night, the hospital decided to start evacuating all patients and others afterwards.
We kept hearing that we were going to be getting out and that people were coming for us but no one ever showed up. Then we heard we couldnt take any pets and that we were going to have to leave them behind and euthanize them. That just wasnt an option for most people with pets; although a few bird and dogs ended up dying of heat stroke and dehydration. Some of the nurses ended up putting their health dogs down because at one point, it looked like it wasnt possible to take a pet.
Being at the hospital was scary. There was a building across the street had been broken into and occupied by unfriendly looters with guns. They were directly across the street from the parking lot where we were set up with the dogs, our supplies and my car. There was nothing stopping them from getting in because they had a flat bottomed boat and could easily come across the street and up with ramp of the parking lot which they tried to do a few times. Thats what the scary part was. Being in the hospital with the sick, walking around with the stagnant, smelly air wasnt the worst part. We tried to sleep at night but were scared for our lives.
On Wednesday, two brothers from Thibodaux came up to New Orleans with 2 airboats to get their mom out of Lifecare (hospice at the hospital). As they were putting her into the boat, she died. They were kind enough to stay and helped to evacuate 300 people, all family members of patients that were being evacuated via helicopter. They then said they would be back on Thursday at 7am to continue helping. Thursday morning came and we didnt see any boats or hear ANY helicopters landing on the heliport. Thats when we all really started to get worried. We literally had a HUGE sense of relief on Wednesday night that we were going to be rescued. We were able to drink the water we had without feeling like we had to conserve, we were able to sleep in the car with the dogs (a/c on) to try and cool down without having to feel like we had to conserve the gas. We had packed up 1 bag each and hid everything we possibly could in Andys office and the cars. We KNOW both of our cars are going to looted and that another thing to worry about hoping that our cars would be spared. Those people out there looting are the lowest of the low. They do not care about people, peoples safety or peoples property. They have no respect for anything, not even human life. We saw many looters wading through the water, passing up people who needed help so they could get into stores or homes to loot. They werent in survival mode. Survival mode is breaking into a car and hotwiring it to get out of the city, breaking into stores for food and water. Survival mode is not breaking into jewelry and electronic stores. Make no mistake, they are animals. "
Thursday, around 10:30 am, we heard a ton of helicopters coming in and out of the helipad that were hired by Tenet to get us out. They wouldve been there sooner but the government had stopped ALL copters and boats from coming in. I am very, very disappointed in the governments efforts to help. We really feel like they didnt do anything to help us. We had NO food or supplies dropped to us, we didnt have any way to get out, and we didnt have ANY protection. We saw plenty of helicopters flying around, boats going around if those people were able to get in, the government shouldve been in there helping us. We had patients in the hospital, sick people who needed water and medical supplies. Outside, we had drug addicts and looters trying to get into an unsecured hospital to take our food, water, medical and pharmaceutical supplies! The National Guard was there for 1 day on Monday after the storm passed and before the flooding started. They were completely useless! They came in and didnt do anything but eat food and drink water we had. They walked around and said they were only there to show there presence. They didnt even have guns. The looters were NOT afraid of them and not only that, the National Guard didnt do anything to help stop the people from coming in and causing trouble.
A few hours before we got out the state police FINALLY showed up with riffles, shotguns and handguns. There were some shots fired right in front of us and our dogs were right in the line of fire if a huge shoot out wouldve started.
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http://theknot.com/talk_mb_post.htm...25755420061980&market=029&keyword=NEW ORLEANS
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"We (Andy, Kitty, the dogs and I) finally got out of Memorial Medical Center (Baptist) yesterday (Thursday). It was a nightmare. We went to the hospital on Sunday night (we usually go there to volunteer for the hurricanes because they always end of being short staffed and need people). After the hurricane on Monday, everything looked somewhat ok and none of the mayhem had started. On Monday night, the hospital decided to start evacuating all patients and others afterwards.
We kept hearing that we were going to be getting out and that people were coming for us but no one ever showed up. Then we heard we couldnt take any pets and that we were going to have to leave them behind and euthanize them. That just wasnt an option for most people with pets; although a few bird and dogs ended up dying of heat stroke and dehydration. Some of the nurses ended up putting their health dogs down because at one point, it looked like it wasnt possible to take a pet.
Being at the hospital was scary. There was a building across the street had been broken into and occupied by unfriendly looters with guns. They were directly across the street from the parking lot where we were set up with the dogs, our supplies and my car. There was nothing stopping them from getting in because they had a flat bottomed boat and could easily come across the street and up with ramp of the parking lot which they tried to do a few times. Thats what the scary part was. Being in the hospital with the sick, walking around with the stagnant, smelly air wasnt the worst part. We tried to sleep at night but were scared for our lives.
On Wednesday, two brothers from Thibodaux came up to New Orleans with 2 airboats to get their mom out of Lifecare (hospice at the hospital). As they were putting her into the boat, she died. They were kind enough to stay and helped to evacuate 300 people, all family members of patients that were being evacuated via helicopter. They then said they would be back on Thursday at 7am to continue helping. Thursday morning came and we didnt see any boats or hear ANY helicopters landing on the heliport. Thats when we all really started to get worried. We literally had a HUGE sense of relief on Wednesday night that we were going to be rescued. We were able to drink the water we had without feeling like we had to conserve, we were able to sleep in the car with the dogs (a/c on) to try and cool down without having to feel like we had to conserve the gas. We had packed up 1 bag each and hid everything we possibly could in Andys office and the cars. We KNOW both of our cars are going to looted and that another thing to worry about hoping that our cars would be spared. Those people out there looting are the lowest of the low. They do not care about people, peoples safety or peoples property. They have no respect for anything, not even human life. We saw many looters wading through the water, passing up people who needed help so they could get into stores or homes to loot. They werent in survival mode. Survival mode is breaking into a car and hotwiring it to get out of the city, breaking into stores for food and water. Survival mode is not breaking into jewelry and electronic stores. Make no mistake, they are animals. "
Thursday, around 10:30 am, we heard a ton of helicopters coming in and out of the helipad that were hired by Tenet to get us out. They wouldve been there sooner but the government had stopped ALL copters and boats from coming in. I am very, very disappointed in the governments efforts to help. We really feel like they didnt do anything to help us. We had NO food or supplies dropped to us, we didnt have any way to get out, and we didnt have ANY protection. We saw plenty of helicopters flying around, boats going around if those people were able to get in, the government shouldve been in there helping us. We had patients in the hospital, sick people who needed water and medical supplies. Outside, we had drug addicts and looters trying to get into an unsecured hospital to take our food, water, medical and pharmaceutical supplies! The National Guard was there for 1 day on Monday after the storm passed and before the flooding started. They were completely useless! They came in and didnt do anything but eat food and drink water we had. They walked around and said they were only there to show there presence. They didnt even have guns. The looters were NOT afraid of them and not only that, the National Guard didnt do anything to help stop the people from coming in and causing trouble.
A few hours before we got out the state police FINALLY showed up with riffles, shotguns and handguns. There were some shots fired right in front of us and our dogs were right in the line of fire if a huge shoot out wouldve started.
More at link:
http://theknot.com/talk_mb_post.htm...25755420061980&market=029&keyword=NEW ORLEANS
It was 3 female Officers in Uniform. They had shoes, clothes, I dont know what all else. When they saw the camera and the Reporter asked why they were taking things he was told to mind his business and get out of the store.
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NO is a violent city with a police force that is not respected in the community.
They have more murders per capita in NO a city of approx 1 million than in NYC. These factors were part of the security problems facing officials post Katrina.
AP article August 19, 2005
But by last year, the number in New Orleans was back up to 265. There had been 192 this year by mid-August, compared with 169 at the same time in 2004. Adjusted for population, those numbers dwarf murder rates in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City.
For police, recruitment is a continuing problem. The department has a poor image in the community, with allegations of brutality and corruption dating back decades. The city now has 3.14 officers per 1,000 residents -- less than half the rate in Washington, D.C.
Scharf, director for the Center for Society, Law and Justice, said extra police are not always the solution. ''My heart goes out to these police officers,'' he said. ''They're fighting public apathy, racial division and a dysfunctional court system.''
Only one in four people arrested in the city for murder is convicted, according to one study. AP
They have more murders per capita in NO a city of approx 1 million than in NYC. These factors were part of the security problems facing officials post Katrina.
AP article August 19, 2005
But by last year, the number in New Orleans was back up to 265. There had been 192 this year by mid-August, compared with 169 at the same time in 2004. Adjusted for population, those numbers dwarf murder rates in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City.
For police, recruitment is a continuing problem. The department has a poor image in the community, with allegations of brutality and corruption dating back decades. The city now has 3.14 officers per 1,000 residents -- less than half the rate in Washington, D.C.
Scharf, director for the Center for Society, Law and Justice, said extra police are not always the solution. ''My heart goes out to these police officers,'' he said. ''They're fighting public apathy, racial division and a dysfunctional court system.''
Only one in four people arrested in the city for murder is convicted, according to one study. AP
Cypros said:
Don't be surprised if when the trucks lined up to go in and repair some phone lines and some electricity some of those looters will be enjoying their new plasmas in the houses of some of those folks who chose to evacuate. Remember, not every house in NO was in the flooded areas. There are already stories of people who have "squatted" in the houses left behind by other people. People aren't honestly believing that the gun-toting thugs are going back to houses each day that are flooded to the attics, are they? Thugs in a green cadillac were shooting at cops and national guard. Think that was their Cadillac? I doubt it. Taking a car to get out of the city upon desparate measures is understandable. Taking a car to joy ride, haul their loot around, finding a house to squat in, while shooting at cops and raping and murdering is not.
Ntegrity said:
They were definitly not getting food, water or medical supplies. I saw shoes, clothings and cases that looked like DVD's or CD's. I dont know what all else. It was a very quick shot of their shopping cart.
Cypros
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I think people's genuine concern for their pets is another explanation for the large numbers who stayed in their homes. Pets were not allowed intp the Sueprdome. I understanf that but I empathize with pet owners. I have a 17 year old cat who has been with me through so many good and bad times. I would never leave him behind to drown or die of starvation or heat stroke.
That's a good point. I would never leave my animals behind, no matter what. Every community should have an emergency plan that takes this into consideration. My local kennel club has worked with the local agencies to develop a plan for pets. It's very important to people that their animals have a safe place to ride out the storm.Cypros said:
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Ntegrity said:
Wow! We agree on something! See what good animals do for us humans!
If we are going to be a compassionate, humane and truly "civilized" society, we have to open our hearts to all animals -- domestic pets cannot be abandoned as useless rubbish when disaster strikes.
Has anybody heard anything about the NO Zoo? I am sure it is another tragedy.
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