IA IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023 #2

[detectivewannab]

Parked in what driveway? This doesn't fit the phone track.

The dogs tracked to his coat and then a field drive way very near.

 

[detectivewannab]

If he on the video at the truck stop and intersection so will any trying to follow him or for the meet up.

The dogs tracked to his coat and then a field drive way very nea

 

[Mauig’ma]

What I still don’t understand is why his wife didn’t alert le once she was told he didn’t show for the unload? (First thing in the am) iirc. Why did she wait all day before she notified le of him missing? I may have missed something so I apologize if it’s been noted already

 

[OldCop]

Great post . Everyone else seems to think whatever happened happened way before it did . But your correct with your timeline I believe . Whatever it was happened at that intersection. Kinda leads me away from him leaving on his own . It seems as if something went down right there . It's hard to imagine why he would be a victim of foul play. So I go back and forth. But honestly my guy has said someone did something or took him for whatever unknown reason . My heart breaks for this family . This one I would love to see dad come home . I wish for the best in all cases of course. But this family needs him. He's everything to them,the provider too.

We know he arrived at the Hwy 20\71S exit at 12:18. His truck was at its final location at 12:40. Something that should have taken less than 10 minutes took 22 minutes. What we don’t know is if the truck crawled up that road doing 15 or 20 miles an hour or if he was stopped at the intersection for 10-15 minutes and then turned north.
If it was the latter, was he stopped there deciding what he was going to do?
Was he contemplating self harm? Or,
Was he waiting for a specific time?
Had he arranged some type of meetup when he was on the cellphone at Marker 126?
I have imagined a scenario wherein he ran off with someone and the arranged meeting spot was quite close to where the truck was found. I think the person who picked him up was traveling southbound on N14. I think David would have timed it so he was arriving at the location driving NB just as the other person was driving SB. As the pick up vehicle slowed to a stop, David jumped out of the truck, careful to leave his id and cellphone and wallet behind. He ran across the road shedding his jacket in the ditch and jumped into the waiting vehicle. The vehicle continued southbound on N14 and got on Hwy 20 to make their escape. We know there are no cameras there. If this was a planned disappearance he would want to minimize the time spent at the location where the truck was found. A ”field entrance” road was mentioned in some reports as being close to where the truck was found. Perhaps the pick up driver waited there in the dark until he/she saw the headlights of David’s truck approaching, then pulled out and drove down to meet him. Or,
Was he having a physical issue that caused him to become confused? Or,
Was someone lying in wait for him as he rolled up to the stop sign? Then what?
If it was a personal grudge, wouldn’t you just kill him there and be done with it?
Right now I’m between voluntary disappearance and self harm.

 

[OldCop]

If the plan was a "meet up" to drop off drugs, and he was running late, why even detour north 4 miles. Why not just have whom ever he was meeting up with, meet him at the Hwy 20 off ramp to Hwy 71?

This is rural Iowa, not the middle of town we are talking about. At that time of night there would be little to no traffic. David probably could have stood out on the exit ramp holding a box of drugs waiting for someone to show up and no one would have noticed or been the wiser.

I don't think drugs have anything to do with this. There are a heck of lot better ways to transport drugs than using a truck driver hauling baby pork chops. Not to mention the short distances we are talking about.

I don’t think drugs have anything to do with this either, but what if the scenario was a personal drug buy rather than him transporting?
“many truck drivers who know they must drive too long are turning to illegal drugs to force themselves to stay awake. One study uncovered that truckers use cocaine more than any other drug. Because trucking companies are not required to do hair tests, the number of truckers guilty of this seems to be largely underreported.”

Truck Drivers Use Dangerous Measures to Keep Awake - Merkel & Cocke, P.A.

Truckers are driving under the influence of cocaine more often. Call the Mississippi truck accident attorneys at Merkel & Cocke if you were hurt in a crash with an impaired trucker.

www.merkel-cocke.com

While the article mostly refers to long haul truckers, the short haul folks get exhausted, too, especially if they are making many runs a day. David’s wife said he was always exhausted, always running. So much so that she sometimes didn’t speak to him for a couple of days at a time.
My problem with this scenario is that if David’s disappearance is the result of a drug deal gone bad, why was his wallet with $2000.00 in cash left at the scene and why no evidence, (as far as we know), of any kind of a struggle? Furthermore, a dealer teaching a lesson would not cart off a dead body when he was already in the middle of nowhere.
I am in no way implying that David was involved in any kind of drug use, just trying out various scenarios to see what might fit.

 

[Mauig’ma]

I don’t think drugs have anything to do with this either, but what if the scenario was a personal drug buy rather than him transporting?
“many truck drivers who know they must drive too long are turning to illegal drugs to force themselves to stay awake. One study uncovered that truckers use cocaine more than any other drug. Because trucking companies are not required to do hair tests, the number of truckers guilty of this seems to be largely underreported.”

Truck Drivers Use Dangerous Measures to Keep Awake - Merkel & Cocke, P.A.

Truckers are driving under the influence of cocaine more often. Call the Mississippi truck accident attorneys at Merkel & Cocke if you were hurt in a crash with an impaired trucker.

www.merkel-cocke.com

While the article mostly refers to long haul truckers, the short haul folks get exhausted, too, especially if they are making many runs a day. David’s wife said he was always exhausted, always running. So much so that she sometimes didn’t speak to him for a couple of days at a time.
My problem with this scenario is that if David’s disappearance is the result of a drug deal gone bad, why was his wallet with $2000.00 in cash left at the scene and why no evidence, (as far as we know), of any kind of a struggle? Furthermore, a dealer teaching a lesson would not cart off a dead body when he was already in the middle of nowhere.
I am in no way implying that David was involved in any kind of drug use, just trying out various scenarios to see what might fit.

In this scenario could whoever stopped him make him show them “whatever” they want to see, take or sell etc.? And then dispose of him there or close by? Idk I’m grasping at straws at this point

 

[Joe Friday]

If he was killed because of drugs, it wasn't because he couldn't pay his debt or pay for the drugs he was getting at the time.

Why kill your customer?? That sounds like a bad business practice.

I have never been able to tie drugs to this from any angle I try and look at it.

 

[Seattle1]

After searching over 100,000 acres over several days without a lead they have no where else to search . They need a tip.

I dunno -- in the two Iowa cases I last followed, the victims were both located more than six weeks later in areas previously searched (a corn field and a soybean field). It's very easy for a body to blend in when dumped in such a vast AG area. I'm sorry for DS's family, friends and this community.

Also, during the 100,000 acre search, another missing man, 54-year-0ld Mark Riesberg, of Calhoun County, was found dead in his vehicle.

Anyone with information on Schultz's disappearance is asked to contact the Sac County Sheriff’s Office at 712-662-7127 or your local law enforcement agency.



https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-v...missing-sac-county-man-david-schultz/45965639

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

If he was killed because of drugs, it wasn't because he couldn't pay his debt or pay for the drugs he was getting at the time.

Why kill your customer?? That sounds like a bad business practice.

I have never been able to tie drugs to this from any angle I try and look at it.

Yeah. The only way I can think of now that drugs could be a cause is if he was asked to deliver something first to someone, and he wasn’t keen on the idea, but went along with it. Maybe their meeting point was just north of that intersection. And when he got there, there was an altercation. Maybe someone who gave him the items to deliver didn’t include everything and they took it out on him. But that seems rather elaborate and not where my head is right now.

Sadly I feel they just overlooked him, or didn’t search an area where he is located.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

Have I somehow missed it, or has nobody (either Sarah or LE) ever specified exactly what Dave was wearing?

"Wrangler pants" could be almost any colour. Blue jeans? Brown corduroy? And his shirt could also be any colour. We know the jacket that was found was an orange colour... but it was found in the ditch, so wherever Dave went, he wasn't wearing it.

The colour of Dave's clothing could be really important to how easy it would be for his body to stay hidden.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Have I somehow missed it, or has nobody (either Sarah or LE) ever specified exactly what Dave was wearing?

"Wrangler pants" could be almost any colour. Blue jeans? Brown corduroy? And his shirt could also be any colour. We know the jacket that was found was an orange colour... but it was found in the ditch, so wherever Dave went, he wasn't wearing it.

The colour of Dave's clothing could be really important to how easy it would be for his body to stay hidden.

As far as I recall, we haven’t learned what color shirt. I see a few older articles that said “Wrangler blue jeans” but that could be a mistake by the journalist who may wrongly assume all Wranglers are blue jeans. Other articles just said ”Wrangler jeans.”

And cowboy boots were mentioned, but not a color.

Sure would be key when searching, as you said!

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Ok, this article says she couldn’t recall what color shirt, and Newsweek printed the same.

Wife pleads to help find husband who went missing in Sac County

The Lake View Police Department is requesting assistance in locating a 53-year-old man.

www.siouxlandproud.com

 

[Seattle1]

Ok, this article says she couldn’t recall what color shirt, and Newsweek printed the same.

Wife pleads to help find husband who went missing in Sac County

The Lake View Police Department is requesting assistance in locating a 53-year-old man.

www.siouxlandproud.com

From MSM images/video -- David appears to mostly wear hooded sweatshirt and t-shirt.

 

[Seattle1]

What I still don’t understand is why his wife didn’t alert le once she was told he didn’t show for the unload? (First thing in the am) iirc. Why did she wait all day before she notified le of him missing? I may have missed something so I apologize if it’s been noted already

I'm not understanding OP comment re wife delayed? Wife says it was not unusual for her not to hear from DS the next day (Tues). Also, she learned he did not unload from his boss who knocked at her door. Police called her from DS phone that afternoon -- search was under way.

“The next day I hadn’t heard from him, which is not unusual, you know I don’t know when he’s loading and unloading. The guy he hauls for knocked at my door saying hey we can’t find david have you heard from him.

[..]

Sarah said the police called her from his phone Tuesday afternoon. She added that a friend of hers had nearly hit the truck earlier around 5:30 a.m. His wallet and phone were in the truck as well. A search dog was used to look for David Tuesday, which had led them to his jacket in the ditch, but couldn’t go further due to the strong winds Sarah said. On top of the search dog, other authorities have been searching including a plane with thermal imaging, drones, and other searches.

Wife pleads to help find husband who went missing in Sac County

The Lake View Police Department is requesting assistance in locating a 53-year-old man.

www.siouxlandproud.com

 

[Joe Friday]

I'm not understanding OP comment re wife delayed? Wife says it was not unusual for her not to hear from DS the next day (Tues). Also, she learned he did not unload from his boss who knocked at her door. Police called her from DS phone that afternoon -- search was under way.

I think it's the delay being mentioned was from the time boss knocked on the door in the morning saying David didn't unload and he doesn't know where David is and the time Sarah actually called LE which was about 8-9 hours later when I believe the boss man told Sarah to call LE and tell them it may be a medical issue to get attention and get the ball rolling on LE looking for him.

It might not have be unusual for Sarah not to hear from David when David was gone, but it was unusual for someone to come knockings on the door looking for David given the circumstances. You would think that would be unusual enough to get someone to do more than what seemed to have been done in the amount of time.

JMO

 

[Mauig’ma]

I'm not understanding OP comment re wife delayed? Wife says it was not unusual for her not to hear from DS the next day (Tues). Also, she learned he did not unload from his boss who knocked at her door. Police called her from DS phone that afternoon -- search was under way.

“The next day I hadn’t heard from him, which is not unusual, you know I don’t know when he’s loading and unloading. The guy he hauls for knocked at my door saying hey we can’t find david have you heard from him.

[..]

Sarah said the police called her from his phone Tuesday afternoon. She added that a friend of hers had nearly hit the truck earlier around 5:30 a.m. His wallet and phone were in the truck as well. A search dog was used to look for David Tuesday, which had led them to his jacket in the ditch, but couldn’t go further due to the strong winds Sarah said. On top of the search dog, other authorities have been searching including a plane with thermal imaging, drones, and other searches.

Wife pleads to help find husband who went missing in Sac County

The Lake View Police Department is requesting assistance in locating a 53-year-old man.

www.siouxlandproud.com

I understood it as the wife finding out fairly early in the morning that he was a no show for his next unload. I get she doesn’t pay much attention to his schedule on a normal day. But they had company he wanted to get home to. Moo

I think it's the delay being mentioned was from the time boss knocked on the door in the morning saying David didn't unload and he doesn't know where David is and the time Sarah actually called LE which was about 8-9 hours later when I believe the boss man told Sarah to call LE and tell them it may be a medical issue to get attention and get the ball rolling on LE looking for him.

It might not have be unusual for Sarah not to hear from David when David was gone, but it was unusual for someone to come knockings on the door looking for David given the circumstances. You would think that would be unusual enough to get someone to do more than what seemed to have been done in the amount of time.

JMO

This ^ is exactly what I was wanting to convey. Ty

 

[Onebest]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>Speaking hypothetically, we all have seen a lot of families post on social media when a loved one is lost. I believe the thought is it keeps the missing person's name out there and the missing poster of course, can be shared. I also have seen it open up doors to all kinds of crazy and attacks on the family. This cannot be helpful to people already suffering. Not sure what the answer it but I agree, if it was me God forbid, I would be really close lipped about a lot of personal stuff. It's a conundrum for sure. JMO. I am hoping and praying for answers for DS!

 

[B4igo2it]

12/9 was when the press release from the SCSO was published. Less than 20 days ago.

According to Sarah's latest FB update she made today she was contacted by the Iowa Department of Criminal Investigations (DCI) with an update, so maybe some movement in the case will be coming soon.

I hope so. Last night, I visited the Des Moines DCI f/bk page (and went to the link they posted for the web that is an invalid link). I cannot believe they don't even have Dave's missing person flyer posted. Another LE disappointment, IMO. Note: added text re non working link

 

[Joe Friday]

I hope so. Last night, I visited the Des Moines DCI office. I cannot believe they don't even have Dave's missing person flyer posted. Another LE disappointment, IMO.

Were there other missing persons posters up at the DCI office? TIA

 

[mst]

I hope so. Last night, I visited the Des Moines DCI office. I cannot believe they don't even have Dave's missing person flyer posted. Another LE disappointment, IMO.

Or they know something