IA IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023

[Knox]

If something happened to him at one of the pig facilities, I fear his body could have been fed to the pigs. I'm not trying to be upsetting, but pigs will eat pretty much anything, and that includes humans. There have been cases of people falling, or dying, in their pig pens and then being consumed by the pigs. Also, many incidents of murdered people being fed to pigs in order to dispose of the body.

Oregon farmer eaten by his pigs

Authorities investigate as a farmer in the US state of Oregon is devoured by his pigs, which left only his dentures and some body parts behind.

www.bbc.com

Family of 7-year-old Kansas boy who was fed to pigs sues social workers

Relatives of Adrian Jones say that social workers didn't permanently remove the boy from his home despite documenting repeated calls and reports of abuse over several years.

www.nbcnews.com

‘Worst serial killer in history,’ who fed women to pigs, reignites rage by publishing book

Robert Pickton’s book, which was reportedly smuggled out of prison, has drawn intense outrage from victims’ families, law enforcement officials and lawmakers in Canada. It also resurfaces questions about why the killings were not stopped before dozens of women died.

www.seattletimes.com

I would be very surprised if that was the case with David's disappearance. I do suspect foul play, but feel he was transported in a vehicle to some other location, than either the pickup/drop off farms.

 

[JDG]

If something happened to him at one of the pig facilities, I fear his body could have been fed to the pigs. I'm not trying to be upsetting, but pigs will eat pretty much anything, and that includes humans. There have been cases of people falling, or dying, in their pig pens and then being consumed by the pigs. Also, many incidents of murdered people being fed to pigs in order to dispose of the body.

Oregon farmer eaten by his pigs

Authorities investigate as a farmer in the US state of Oregon is devoured by his pigs, which left only his dentures and some body parts behind.

www.bbc.com

Family of 7-year-old Kansas boy who was fed to pigs sues social workers

Relatives of Adrian Jones say that social workers didn't permanently remove the boy from his home despite documenting repeated calls and reports of abuse over several years.

www.nbcnews.com

‘Worst serial killer in history,’ who fed women to pigs, reignites rage by publishing book

Robert Pickton’s book, which was reportedly smuggled out of prison, has drawn intense outrage from victims’ families, law enforcement officials and lawmakers in Canada. It also resurfaces questions about why the killings were not stopped before dozens of women died.

www.seattletimes.com

Those cases have been reported upthread as well.

 

[JDG]

In all seriousness, is it possible to extract human DNA from pig excrement?

After digestion? My guess is no, could be wrong.

If I have a raw steak, DNA can likely be taken from the muscle.

After I’ve ‘processed’ it, likely not. All MOO, JMO ETC

 

[JDG]

I would be very surprised if that was the case with David's disappearance. I do suspect foul play, but feel he was transported in a vehicle to some other location, than either the pickup/drop off farms.

Just curious, why do you feel that’s the case/ what points to transporting him? Not easy to move deceased people and live ones are unlikely to cooperate. IMO

 

[charminglane]

In all seriousness, is it possible to extract human DNA from pig excrement?

I believe so.

Animal poop DNA could transform conservation

DNA in animal feces could help researchers get a picture of an entire ecosystem and the secondary effects of extinction or invasive species.

www.futurity.org

Fecal matter of different animals is inspected to see what other species they have consumed.

 

[Knox]

Just curious, why do you feel that’s the case/ what points to transporting him? Not easy to move deceased people and live ones are unlikely to cooperate. IMO

Feeding a body to a bunch of pigs makes more sense, than transporting to another location? Murderers move bodies to other locations for disposal all the time and abductions are not rare.

 

[starlightstarbright]

Feeding a body to a bunch of pigs makes more sense, than transporting to another location? Murderers move bodies to other locations for disposal all the time and abductions are not rare.

I think that’s probably because most murderers don’t have easy access to a barn full of hungry pigs. I sadly think it’s a very likely possibility if DS got in the middle of something he wasn’t meant to be involved in. And it explains why the truck was driven away. To distract from the farm itself and focus attention on looking for the truck rather than risking anyone coming knocking too soon at the farm. JMO

 

[mst]

I read all the local police departments posts with the missing fliers as well as the comments. Huge farming community there. In my opinion after reading, I think pick up location was searched. In my opinion, there were trucks that saw him leave there. In my opinion, it all happened on that roadway. It does not explain where his overalls and boots went although we don't actually know for sure that he had them. This case is absolutely baffling.

 

[charminglane]

May today be the day that this poor man is found.

 

[OldCop]

Today is opening day of deer hunting season. It is often hunters who find remains as they trample through wooded area.
The United Cajun Army will be back out searching today.

Update from United Cajun Army:
Hello everyone, Jake Rowley here, Midwest team leader for United Cajun Navy. I wanted to update everyone tonight on our search efforts for David Schultz, as well as give everyone updated information for tomorrow (December 2nd) search efforts!

Today one of our United Cajun Navy teams was able to locate the remains of one missing man in Calhoun county Mark Reisberg. We are praying for that family tonight as they go through a time of struggle but are thankful that they were able to receive answers!

Tomorrow we will resume search efforts and we are hoping for a huge turn out! Tomorrow is the opening day of deer season so one requirement tommrow will be wearing some sort of bright orange on your person. We want to make sure everyone in our search teams stays safe!

Meeting location will be Sac City Hotel 103 ash avenue Sac City Iowa. We will meet at 10:30 A.M. and have teams dispatched into the field by 11:00.

Lastly I want to thank our amazing group of local volunteers that have came out to help bring answers to these families!

Sarah Bogue Schultz

#unitedcajunnavymidwest
#BringDavidHome
#unitedcajunnavy
#unitedisstrength

Calhoun County Sheriff's Office: Body of Mark Riesberg found at abandoned property

Search crews are still looking for a second missing man, David Schultz. Authorities say the two disappearances are not related.

www.weareiowa.com

 

[TL4S]

Probably a coincidence, but the road off Hwy 20 that goes south to Brushy Creek is called "Union Ave." Hwy 71/N14, going north off Hwy 20, where the truck was found, is also called "Union Ave."

It just kind of makes me wonder if the last "heard from" by DS was maybe him telling someone he was on Union Ave., which is what led searchers to Brushy Creek early on, maybe before phone records were obtained.

Just random thoughts...

 

[TLobo]

IMO feeder pigs would probably not consume an entire body (skull, clothing, boots...) in a day or 2.

I grew up on a hog farm and have several relatives still in the hog production industry - I've never witnessed a clothed human body in a pen of hogs, but even if a pig were to die in the pen and go unnoticed until the next walk through, there would still be some remains... remaining.

I can't help but suspect that something happened at the loading site. IME there are some pretty rough characters and bad actors in the production ag sector. Minimal or no drug testing or background requirements and the nature of the work lends itself to often being short-term employment, ideal for transient individuals or those who wouldn't qualify for other jobs. For what it's worth, many undocumented immigrants or those using someone else's ID to gain employment. DS could easily run into something that someone didn't want him to see, especially at night. Drugs, animal abuse or neglect...I don't want to sound like I'm accusing anyone at all, and not knowing any more specifics of what was going on in DS's life, this is just where my knowledge of this industry leads me.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

Probably a coincidence, but the road off Hwy 20 that goes south to Brushy Creek is called "Union Ave." Hwy 71/N14, going north off Hwy 20, where the truck was found, is also called "Union Ave."

It just kind of makes me wonder if the last "heard from" by DS was maybe him telling someone he was on Union Ave., which is what led searchers to Brushy Creek early on, maybe before phone records were obtained.

Just random thoughts...

That's a really good catch and would make sense.

The search leader has said on Facebook that they do have reasons for where they've been searching, but to me it still looks and feels like mostly a wide and systematic search along David's expected route.

 

[LC2]

Wife thinks foul play led Sac County hog trucker to vanish - Storm Lake Times Pilot

David Schultz was eager to get home to see visiting family So why would he leave his truck in the middle of the road, full of pigs? …

www.stormlake.com

In this article Sarah states she doesn’t hear much from authorities. In an earlier interview she also said that DCI was involved but hadn’t been in contact with her and it had been a day or two. Is that common in an investigation like this to not keep immediate family informed? Again I know LE is going to keep details under wraps so they don’t jeopardize the investigation. Was just curious. She had also posted on Facebook on Thanksgiving wondering if a search was going on. Just assumed there was more communication I guess???

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

In this article Sarah states she doesn’t hear much from authorities. In an earlier interview she also said that DCI was involved but hadn’t been in contact with her and it had been a day or two. Is that common in an investigation like this to not keep immediate family informed? Again I know LE is going to keep details under wraps so they don’t jeopardize the investigation. Was just curious. She had also posted on Facebook on Thanksgiving wondering if a search was going on. Just assumed there was more communication I guess???

I've read that about many cases, yes, sadly. It causes much frustration and angst for the family, who has to constantly call, leave messages inquiring as to the status, wait for return calls, and so on.

 

[Knox]

Probably a coincidence, but the road off Hwy 20 that goes south to Brushy Creek is called "Union Ave." Hwy 71/N14, going north off Hwy 20, where the truck was found, is also called "Union Ave."

It just kind of makes me wonder if the last "heard from" by DS was maybe him telling someone he was on Union Ave., which is what led searchers to Brushy Creek early on, maybe before phone records were obtained.

Just random thoughts...

I can’t link I’m on my phone. But there was a video posted by Jake on Facebook prior to the search beginning at Brushy Creek. He says David’s phone pinged in that area. So they had that info early on from LE.

 

[Knox]

I think that’s probably because most murderers don’t have easy access to a barn full of hungry pigs. I sadly think it’s a very likely possibility if DS got in the middle of something he wasn’t meant to be involved in. And it explains why the truck was driven away. To distract from the farm itself and focus attention on looking for the truck rather than risking anyone coming knocking too soon at the farm. JMO

That’s why I think he was taken away in a POV. To dispose of a body there is too risky. Plus something could just as likely happened at the drop off point, which is closer to where his truck was found. He gets out to unload, puts on his coveralls and boots- then whatever happens begins.

We really have nothing to go on in this case, but as another poster pointed out- if you read through the comments you find locals posting what appears to be valid information. But who really knows, this certainly is one big head scratcher.

 

[TL4S]

I can’t link I’m on my phone. But there was a video posted by Jake on Facebook prior to the search beginning at Brushy Creek. He says David’s phone pinged in that area. So they had that info early on from LE.

Oh, that's good to know. Thanks!

 

[OldCop]

I've read that about many cases, yes, sadly. It causes much frustration and angst for the family, who has to constantly call, leave messages inquiring as to the status, wait for return calls, and so on.

It is frustrating, and I understand how they feel. In some of the larger departments, LE will assign an officer to be the family liaison. The LO will be available, (often at the home in the early stages of the investigation), and will keep the family updated as much as possible. They can also be the eyes and ears for investigators as far as family dynamics. They will not divulge sensitive information, but will share as much as possible and serve to ensure the family that their case is a priority. Unfortunately, the smaller LE agencies cannot spare an officer for full time liaison duties and when investigators are busy, the family feels left out..
There are a couple of other reasons why LE may not be as forthcoming about their investigation as a family would like. For one, when LE doesn’t have a POI, anyone, including family members, can be considered a suspect. Secondly, sometimes family members will go to the press or tell someone else what investigators are up to which can really hinder an investigation or tip off a suspect.
Most times it is not for a lack of empathy that investigators don’t give the family of victims full disclosure, but because in the end, the most important thing is to solve the case. That is ultimately what is most important to the family.

 

[charminglane]

11 days and it feels like eternity.
And we aren't even family.