IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #1

[Pensfan]

I think that FB pic is from a teen TV show or something of that nature. Let me check the source code and see if I can find the title of the photo.

That's a photo of Victoria Justice.

 

[Jules71]

That's a photo of Victoria Justice.

Are you saying Lyric's fb photo (of drinking a milkshake) is not of herself? I compared it to the missing person photo and thought it was a match other than the different hair.

 

[Gracelin]

I saw a twitter account for Lyric as well

 

[otto]

Do you work in law enforcement? I was under the impression that checking for prints would be standard procedure. Especially since there are a lot of people who think they were abducted.

I don't. I think checking for prints is standard when there is an identifiable crime scene. At this point, it's difficult to say if there even is a crime scene, as police have not yet determined that there was a crime. If there was a crime at the fence, I don't think that it would be a good use of police resources to check 100+ feet of fence for fingerprints. What would it prove? If any prints could be matched to the girls, it would prove that they touched the fence - it would not indicate anything more. If any prints were unidentifiable, it would require many resources to match the prints and still, it would not conclusively lead to any factual information related to the girls.

 

[Jules71]

I dragged her fb profile pic into google images and it says it is Selena Gomez. I am still not sure.

 

[Kamille]

Are you saying Lyric's fb photo (of drinking a milkshake) is not of herself? I compared it to the missing person photo and thought it was a match other than the different hair.

The picture is actually Selena Gomez, Justin Beiber's girlfriend and child actor herself. Lyric listed Justin as a favourite.

MOO

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Guys, if you're going to say you found something, we need LINKS, please.

(Not directed at anyone in particular.)

 

[HeinekenMan]

Guys, if you're going to say you found something, we need LINKS, please.

(Not directed at anyone in particular.)

Are we allowed to post her Facebook page? I wasn't sure. You can't post her profile on Zoosk. You have to be registered to see it. It's under Lyric Morrissey, just like her FB.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Are we allowed to post her Facebook page? I wasn't sure. You can't post her profile on Zoosk. You have to be registered to see it. It's under Lyric Morrissey, just like her FB.

Because she is a victim, and potential clues can be gathered from her Facebook, yes, it can be linked. HOWEVER, information about and/or pages of any other minors may NOT be linked to or referred to. And her family may not be sleuthed from her page.

Another good thing to remember is...if you can't link it, you can't talk about it. And if you're not sure, you can always ask a mod. We're here to help.


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[GrainneDhu]

The girls' grandmother last saw them at 12 :15 p.m. in the area behind the clothing store. A person called the tip line and stated that he or she saw the girls' bicycles laying on the ground by the lake at 12 :27 p.m. This person did not see the girls,just their bikes.

If the girls biked out to the lake area, and it took them maybe 10 minutes or so, then something happened to them almost right away.

I doubt that they went swimming...where are their shoes ?

If they decided to go swimming, they probably kept their shoes on because the deep, silty mud is usually a highly unpleasant experience. Plus the risk of fish hooks. If they went swimming, they probably planned to hose their shoes off at home.

At least, that's what I did as an adventurous Iowa kid.

Sadly, this summer has been a bad year for drownings because we had a horrid heatwave. The temps last Friday were down to the normal mid-80s but it was still humid.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I'm wondering if the purse/phone were thrown over the fence towards the water. That would explain why investigators are interested in water searches. If the water is 4' deep and the youngest is 4' tall, drowning is a very real possibility.

A big problem in those sorts of lakes in Iowa is that the bottom is often silty much. Even a shallow lake can have sudden dips in the bottom. A wide dip might only be 12 inches deep but that would be over the heads of both girls.

However, we're having a drought year this year; does anyone know if the lake was at the usual level?

 

[Gracelin]

https://twitter.com/fad9i_lyyri

Her twitter is listed under Cook..

 

[Jules71]

https://twitter.com/fad9i_lyyri

Her twitter is listed under Cook..

How can we be sure this is hers? Why would a 10 yr old need a date for the weekend? <sigh>

 

[GrainneDhu]

Chart of Meyer Lake's depth.
http://www.winneshiekwild.com/images/pdfs/lm_depth.pdf

I believe that is the wrong Lake Meyer. The lake in the PDF is located in Winneshiek County.

The lake where the two girls are missing is in Blackhawk County.

 

[palaminodee]

How can we be sure this is hers? Why would a 10 yr old need a date for the weekend? <sigh>

appears to be too old?
agree, she is 10yrs old, correct?

 

[Jules71]

"A chain link fence separates the lake from Interstate 380, but the southeast portion was damaged, leaving an open section.

It&#8217;s unclear how long the fence had been damaged."

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/...ies-hold-out-hope-for-two-missing-iowa-girls/

Authorities will hold another press conference at 6 p.m.

 

[Gracelin]

Only because her Mom is XXXX Cook Morrissey, she was a Cook before a Morrissey
and it's the same as the FB photo..
She never Tweeted but is following people and is being followed and has an e-mail address under her name no need to tweet when you can e mail..

https://twitter.com/fad9i_lyyri

 

[Considering]

Only because her Mom is XXXX Cook Morrissey, she was a Cook before a Morrissey
and it's the same as the FB photo..
She never Tweeted but is following people and is being followed and has an e-mail address under her name no need to tweet when you can e mail..

The same as her FB photo?? That isn't the FB photo that I see.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I searched on Google News and the case has been picked up by 970 news sources including ABC News, Fox News, The Daily Mail, The Washington Post, and the New York Daily News. I would be surprised if the case isn't on Nancy Grace tomorrow, although I hope they'll be found before then so it won't be necessary.

 

[Jules71]

Only because her Mom is XXXX Cook Morrissey, she was a Cook before a Morrissey
and it's the same as the FB photo..
She never Tweeted but is following people and is being followed and has an e-mail address under her name no need to tweet when you can e mail..

I don't see the same pic as on fb either and I don't see an email address. I see a link under the comment about needing a date and when I click no that it is not found. If I google that I get dating sites.