IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #19

[Tucarra]

Here is the UN-Accounted for RSO in Iowa,

http://www.iowasexoffender.com/adva...>Page=1&ResultsPaging->SortOrder=DESC#Results


If you go to most wanted, then click list, then click on Tier so that all 3 tier are on top, (they are the worst) you will see a couple that look like the described "white Van guy".

Don't get hung up on last place or address that is showing because I researched the all and they are all still missing and that is ONLY the last Known address..


*I am not naming anyone..*.



*Due to me hating the naughty chair... aka Time out...

So....umm....

One of these tier 3 guys last known address Polk County Jail 7/9/2012 ???

 

[RNER]

Here is the UN-Accounted for RSO in Iowa,

http://www.iowasexoffender.com/adva...>Page=1&ResultsPaging->SortOrder=DESC#Results


If you go to most wanted, then click list, then click on Tier so that all 3 tier are on top, (they are the worst) you will see a couple that look like the described "white Van guy".

Don't get hung up on last place or address that is showing because I researched the all and they are all still missing and that is ONLY the last Known address..

*I am not naming anyone..*.

*Due to me hating the naughty chair... aka Time out...

One in particular, who is homeless and living at a rest area, has some pretty serious offenses...Pretty Scary!

I thought LE had stated that all RSOs in the area had been accounted for and were interviewed. I think this was within a few days of the disappearances, which IMO was strange to have been done so quickly. There sure are a lot of RSOs within the state of Iowa with "whereabouts unknow".

 

[CN2Souls]

So....umm....

One of these tier 3 guys last known address Polk County Jail 7/9/2012 ???

Yeah, but that was the last place he was, called and he was released....

 

[CN2Souls]

One in particular, who is homeless and living at a rest area, has some pretty serious offenses...Pretty Scary!

I thought LE had stated that all RSOs in the area had been accounted for and were interviewed. I think this was within a few days of the disappearances, which IMO was strange to have been done so quickly. There sure are a lot of RSOs within the state of Iowa with "whereabouts unknown".

Not sure about Iowa, But here they do a what is called a rapid dial to all of their Supervision officers and those officers call everyone on their list and ask where they were at say Between 11:00 am - 4:00 pm on July 13, 2012.

Then they "attempt" to verify that story that they are given as to their where abouts.

I Personally think they should go to their home (with Bloodhounds that have the girl scent ) and ask them and search their homes.

But thats just me.

 

[CN2Souls]

Hmmmmm If What that Jogger at 2:00-2:30 ish is correct in the thought that he saw the Girls on their bikes riding east on the trail, and Aunt Tammy was there at 2:30-2:45 pm

She would have just missed them...... being abducted....

How sad... :cry:


MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[dotr]

IMO, I think it could be possible that the girls biked to the lake and had returned to Brovan Blvd. and that's when Grandma saw them across the street in the Lederman's parking lot and their scent was at the lake from that ride.

The cctv footage may have been the girls racing to the turn around point on Lake Ave. before they had to return home.

With the above theory, the girls may have been abducted from the parking lot and the bikes were staged at the lake.

The bikes may have been temporarily pulled into a loading dock area and then quickly driven to the lake via Maiden Ave.

Just out of curiosity, as I am not electronically savy, but what exactly would cause a cctv timer to run slow?

Just MOO

Initial responses are sometimes hard to shake and this is exactly the one
I had, after viewing the cctv tape the first time.
My feeling was that the girls had been seen and befriended while riding around GM.'s, possibly mentioning a forthcoming mermaid theme birthday that needed some lake "decorations" ect.and a perp took it (and them) from there...

 

[Marilynilpa]

Since there is a lack of conversation today, I'll try to stir some up.

If Lyric and Elizabeth were abducted by a pedophile, do you think he: a) targeted both of the girls; b) targeted one of the girls; or c) was just looking for any young girl?

ETA: I call the pedophile he, but it could be he, she or they.

 

[threecrazykids]

I think just about any situation could be believable when it comes to a pedophile in relation to this abduction...so my answer is I don't know what the heck I think.

1. Could be targeting Elizabeth if they are a local...since she supposedly rode her bike frequently and E'dale is Elizabeth's home town, not Lyric's.

2. Could be someone Lyric met online who befriended her somehow and knew she would be in E'dale.

3. Could be someone completely random that the perfect storm fell right into place and those poor girls just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[CN2Souls]

Since there is a lack of conversation today, I'll try to stir some up.

If Lyric and Elizabeth were abducted by a pedophile, do you think he: a) targeted both of the girls; b) targeted one of the girls; or c) was just looking for any young girl?

ETA: I call the pedophile he, but it could be he, she or they.

All of thee Above ^^^^^^

 

[Reverie]

Yeah, but that was the last place he was, called and he was released....

Was it before 13 July?

 

[artzypantz]

Here is the UN-Accounted for RSO in Iowa,

http://www.iowasexoffender.com/adva...>Page=1&ResultsPaging->SortOrder=DESC#Results


If you go to most wanted, then click list, then click on Tier so that all 3 tier are on top, (they are the worst) you will see a couple that look like the described "white Van guy".

Don't get hung up on last place or address that is showing because I researched the all and they are all still missing and that is ONLY the last Known address..


*I am not naming anyone..*.



*Due to me hating the naughty chair... aka Time out...

Sorry for the OT again......

Thanks for putting up the site!
I sure wish i had stayed on my regular routine of looking up offenders to see if i knew of any and didnt know they were an offender!
A guy i worked with in des moines recently is an offender and i did find that out when i did a search while checking out the people i worked with. I do this because SO's seem to flock to me and think they can pick me up for a date or something, which has been a life long problem for me. Any way, there is a guy on there in the des moines area that i worked with who now shows where abouts unconfirmed from minnesota. When i found out he was an SO the website did not say his where abouts where unconfirmed, also now the update date shows a date and he was working with me at that time. So i did send them the info i know on him and what he was driving when i saw him last, and i have to say, this guy was constantly asking me where there were good places to fish in my area, which is not the des moines area.
When the girls went missing i was still working with him, and he missed alot of work in the days before and days after the girls went missing and was acting more strange than normal when he returned to work, and i did think to myself that he was the one who took them, i dont know why. I left the company soon after that.
Any ways, its good to pay attention. Everyone at work blew off the fact that he was an 2 time SO with expanded times between offending, but i didnt blow it off i paid attention without making it obvious, to every thing i could about this guy. He seemed very laid back and like he couldnt hurt a fly type of person, but then he got pushy with his questioning & my intuition started flagging right and left when he would come near me. Then i started looking up my coworkers and sure enough, he was an SO.

Oh man i just remembered that when he first started there he kept telling me how he was riding his bike on the trail around the lake trying to loose weight every morning after work. Oh yuck! If this guy turns out to have taken these girls and my intuition flagged me like it did and i never said anything to anyone right away, man i wont be able to carry that stupidity & guilt! He's probly not the guy but ya never know. Geesh i feel like crap.

Sorry for the ramble.
MOO.......Artzy

 

[CN2Souls]

From the Pictures of the girls, and only from that because I have never met them,

I will make this thought RSO, AKA pedophile who's taste is for children seem to fall into category's,

1. Boy or Girl
2. Age
a. 0-3
b. 4-9
c.10-12
d.13-15

And it seems that Lyric and Elizabeth fall into 2 different category's.

Now there are some RSO aka pedophile who will go for any and all children under preteen age.
and they I hate to say, are the worst and tend to murder their abducted within a very short period of time.

ETA: let me clarify, Elizabeth and Lyric LOOK like to different "age groups", and seeing how a
RSO aka pedophile would not have asked them he /she would have thought Lyric to be much older.

 

[CN2Souls]

Was it before 13 July?

:yes: the 11th, However, he seem to be to "out of Shape" to have maybe abducted two little girls at the same time.

However, After working with the criminal insane for over 25 years I can say they have super human strength at all ages.

 

[Reverie]

Initial responses are sometimes hard to shake and this is exactly the one
I had, after viewing the cctv tape the first time.
My feeling was that the girls had been seen and befriended while riding around GM.'s, possibly mentioning a forthcoming mermaid theme birthday that needed some lake "decorations" ect.and a perp took it (and them) from there...

Interesting, dotr. Birthdays and parties appear to be of great interest to the girls.(they were for me at that age) Elizabeth was planning a fun birthday smash weeks in advance and Lyric was part of that.

IIRC, Elizabeth was invited to a B-D party that was to happen the day after their disappearance. I think it was mentioned by HC in one of her interviews(?).

 

[Simp]

When/IF LE names a POI,, this thread is going to be crazy. There are a lot of hungry sharks in here just waiting to attack (myself included). We are all just so ready to see these girls brought home. I just don't want to see E & L slipping from focus. I know the thread is slowing down on comments, but I don't think it's because people aren't here, I think it's just we don't have anything else to say.

 

[CN2Souls]

I don't know....Web Sleuth has great followers of cases...

I have been on WS for a while and see some threads stay on the front page for years, they have die hard people who keep the thread alive by going over stuff and trying all angles no matter how odd they may sound, They really care for the missing and because you never know what may click and be the right answer....

 

[CN2Souls]

The only problem I have with the RSO angle is:

The most common RSO just

"grabs"

"does what they want"

then gets rid of the body, within a 5 mile radius of where they did the abduction.

BUT!!!

There is a whole new breed out there....

The type that abducted Elizabeth Smart and the Jaycee Dugard

Therefore you never know....

 

[Marilynilpa]

Sorry for the OT again......

Thanks for putting up the site!
I sure wish i had stayed on my regular routine of looking up offenders to see if i knew of any and didnt know they were an offender!
A guy i worked with in des moines recently is an offender and i did find that out when i did a search while checking out the people i worked with. I do this because SO's seem to flock to me and think they can pick me up for a date or something, which has been a life long problem for me. Any way, there is a guy on there in the des moines area that i worked with who now shows where abouts unconfirmed from minnesota. When i found out he was an SO the website did not say his where abouts where unconfirmed, also now the update date shows a date and he was working with me at that time. So i did send them the info i know on him and what he was driving when i saw him last, and i have to say, this guy was constantly asking me where there were good places to fish in my area, which is not the des moines area.
When the girls went missing i was still working with him, and he missed alot of work in the days before and days after the girls went missing and was acting more strange than normal when he returned to work, and i did think to myself that he was the one who took them, i dont know why. I left the company soon after that.
Any ways, its good to pay attention. Everyone at work blew off the fact that he was an 2 time SO with expanded times between offending, but i didnt blow it off i paid attention without making it obvious, to every thing i could about this guy. He seemed very laid back and like he couldnt hurt a fly type of person, but then he got pushy with his questioning & my intuition started flagging right and left when he would come near me. Then i started looking up my coworkers and sure enough, he was an SO.

Oh man i just remembered that when he first started there he kept telling me how he was riding his bike on the trail around the lake trying to loose weight every morning after work. Oh yuck! If this guy turns out to have taken these girls and my intuition flagged me like it did and i never said anything to anyone right away, man i wont be able to carry that stupidity & guilt! He's probly not the guy but ya never know. Geesh i feel like crap.

Sorry for the ramble.
MOO.......Artzy

Are you for real?? Why haven't you contacted LE? You seem to think it's too late to do anything. JMO

 

[Sunlight]

@Artzypantz...You need to call the tip line with "all" the info you posted. JMHO

 

[CN2Souls]

@Artzypantz...You need to call the tip line with "all" the info you posted. JMHO

I am sure she will, she can even be anonymous if she feels the need too.
They are very nice and will thank her for being so helpfull.