IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #19

[cindersoot]

Is there a Description of Those Attempts anywhere that might give auto that was driven?

A white and a black van were involved in these.

 

[cindersoot]

All the Descriptions are the same but one child said the van was black....
Older man 50-60
Beard
Dark Longer hair

He could own a black van also. jmo. This is happening in small twons all around me.

 

[cindersoot]

All the Descriptions are the same but one child said the van was black....
Older man 50-60
Beard
Dark Longer hair

He could own a black van also. jmo. This is happening in small twons all around me.

UGH! I mean towns. I have two cats on my lap, who are trying to type also.

 

[katydid23]

Because me and the little Google Man don't get along..(he goes left when I want him to go right and right when I want him to go left)

I need to ask..

Is there a 5 and dime store anywhere near the Collins House or any little store like a Dollar tree...?

The girls were not seen on the camera until after 12:10.
So where were they from 11:30 - 12:10

I have asked that same question a few times. What were they doing before they showed up on the cctv?

We have not heard any reports of them being seen at the school yard or any other parks or at the corner mkt. or the skate park. I would think they would have been seen by someone if they had been out riding through town for 45 minutes.

My theory is that they were already hanging out with the perp somewhere that morning. Maybe in a yard or a home or a van or ?

 

[rachaellouise]

UGH! I mean towns. I have two cats on my lap, who are trying to type also.

Oh Cindersoot, don't you realize the cats run the household? They decide what to do, not you :floorlaugh:

 

[Jax49]

Because me and the little Google Man don't get along..(he goes left when I want him to go right and right when I want him to go left)

I need to ask..

Is there a 5 and dime store anywhere near the Collins House or any little store like a Dollar tree...?

The girls were not seen on the camera until after 12:10.
So where were they from 11:30 - 12:10

There's a Casey's one block over, near a bank. A couple of blocks further east of Casey's is a Fareway grocery store.

BTW, you don't need to use the little google man to see what stores are nearby. Just bring up a map of Evansdale (I use the post office because its convenient.) Then 'search nearby' for 'stores'.

 

[CN2Souls]

I have asked that same question a few times. What were they doing before they showed up on the cctv?

We have not heard any reports of them being seen at the school yard or any other parks or at the corner mkt. or the skate park. I would think they would have been seen by someone if they had been out riding through town for 45 minutes.

My theory is that they were already hanging out with the perp somewhere that morning. Maybe in a yard or a home or a van or ?

I bet your Right Katydid,

That also brings me to the Flyer's a Local said they were handing out during the road blocks that asked.

"between 12:00 (noon) and 4:00pm on Friday the 13th of July did you see the girls or anything unusual?"

I wish the Flyer's would have asked

"In the last few days, Have you seen the girls or anything usual"

Like in the 6 points thingy, NO ONE LIVES IN A VACUUM

 

[CN2Souls]

UGH! I mean towns. I have two cats on my lap, who are trying to type also.

DO they Have a Theory, Lets Hear it... :lol:

 

[sweetpea33]

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WE would

LOVE to hear your thoughts and Theory's!!


lease:I hate talking to myself...

I live in the area, and it is all so frustrating...I come here to this website to be updated on the case. All I hear around the community is rumors. I missed last night's JVM coverage, but IMO Grandma (WC) is in a total state of denial when it comes to her family, the substance abuse and criminal activities, and any connection that it may or may not have to do with the abduction of the girls. Frankly, I am suspcious of the element Lyric was exposed to for a lot of her life. There are people she may have been in contact with through her parents or parents associates, or other family members and their associates that she would not see as "strangers" or "dangerous". I find it also suspect that very shortly prior to the girls' abduction, Lyric and another cousin were unaccounted for enough time for the police to be called. A preteen girl may find a "friend of the family" who pays special attention to her attractive. She just may "sneak off" to meet that person. That person may be familar enough with Evansdale to be able to arrange a place to meet. What better place than one that is not greatly populated, undercover of foliage and can not be seen from the busy hiway nor the popular park, and you can park a vehicle. That is my theory. I believe Lyric was the target and Elizabeth just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. again, JMOO.

 

[CN2Souls]

There's a Casey's one block over, near a bank. A couple of blocks further east of Casey's is a Fareway grocery store.

BTW, you don't need to use the little Google man to see what stores are nearby. Just bring up a map of Evansdale (I use the post office because its convenient.) Then 'search nearby' for 'stores'.

Wouldn't Both the Casey's have cameras and for sure the bank would right...


(oh, and thanks for the tip... I hate arguing with the Google man he all ways wins)

 

[tlcya]

probably unrelated but goes back to our discussions about whether human trafficking could play a role in the is case.

http://iowacity.patch.com/articles/brother-and-sister-from-iowa-city-accused-of-sex-trafficking

According to a detailed criminal complaint, the defendants used coercion, force and the threat of force to make the three victims – ages 14, 16 and 16 – engage in commercial sex acts.

The investigation began on April 25 after a Cedar Rapids woman called police to report her 14-year-old daughter was missing and believed to be in Chicago. The woman said her daughter had called earlier that morning to report she was being held against her will in a Chicago hotel.

 

[Sunlight]

I have a suggestion to the members. Go to the scanner archives and read the threads during the first, say, week of this case. Well worth it, but you can't bring that info up to this thread under penalty of whatever the penalty is...lol

Anyway, I'm interested that in that email from DCI they suggest to me..that they are "almost" certain that the perp was in a vehicle "arriving" and "departing" the "area". Also, I'm interested that they are looking at video from businesses, "homes", and "elsewhere" in E'dale.

I'm interested that there is a church right next to the auction house and they share the same parking lot. IMO it is worth confirmation as to whether they attended there...my guess is that they may have. If so, were there activities that the girls participated in..with coaches...stuff like that.

I'm interested that E played ball right next to Deerwood camping the night before the disappearance.

There. A bunch to chew on.

MOO

 

[tlcya]

sweetpea, I agree that WC seems to be really in denial about the possibility of past associates being responsible.

I do not think that is the case either but cannot fail to acknowledge that ALL those possibility must be looked at before being ruled out.

 

[Jax49]

Wouldn't Both the Casey's have cameras and for sure the bank would right...


(oh, and thanks for the tip... I hate arguing with the Google man he all ways wins)

I remember hearing earlier that ATM footage was requested from the bank.

 

[CN2Souls]

probably unrelated but goes back to our discussions about whether human trafficking could play a role in the is case.

http://iowacity.patch.com/articles/brother-and-sister-from-iowa-city-accused-of-sex-trafficking

According to a detailed criminal complaint, the defendants used coercion, force and the threat of force to make the three victims – ages 14, 16 and 16 – engage in commercial sex acts.

The investigation began on April 25 after a Cedar Rapids woman called police to report her 14-year-old daughter was missing and believed to be in Chicago. The woman said her daughter had called earlier that morning to report she was being held against her will in a Chicago hotel.

Thank you TLcox

Project Innocence Lost Recovered, 94 Children, Some as young as 8 years old

Some were missing, (assumed to be run aways) however they were NOT run Aways they were abducted and Sold.

Prices for Girls 10 and under sent over seas to pedophiles is around 10,000 a piece
and Boys 12 and under 9,000 a piece.

Makes you sick to your stomach.


:maddening:

 

[sweetpea33]

Wouldn't Both the Casey's have cameras and for sure the bank would right...


(oh, and thanks for the tip... I hate arguing with the Google man he all ways wins)

LE has been looking at video footage from everywhere...remember the POI with the white SUV that was questioned and cleared earlier

 

[CN2Souls]

You know..... If LE are looking at Video and find that the only footage of the girls on video is behind the Auction house at around 12:11 12:15 ish and they dint have a Hard fact as to anyone seeing them after that wouldn't you think they would start looking at the area near the action house as suspious....

Why wouldn't anyone see them at high noon on a summer day on summer vacation ?

 

[Sunlight]

You know..... If LE are looking at Video and find that the only footage of the girls on video is behind the Auction house at around 12:11 12:15 ish and they dint have a Hard fact as to anyone seeing them after that wouldn't you think they would start looking at the area near the action house as suspious....

Why wouldn't anyone see them at high noon on a summer day on summer vacation ?

I think people just don't pay attention that much. Also, it just doesn't seem out of the ordinary to see kids biking, because they did that often as did/do other kids. Carpenter noticed them though, but that was much closer to the lake. People can so easily confuse days and times...even more so when you are retired. MOO

 

[peeples]

Just read at kwwl that the location for the vigil has been changed tonight

Organizers tell us that the vigil planned for Lyric and Elizabeth tonight has been moved to Countryside Vineyard Church on Lafayette Road in Evansdale.

 

[sweetpea33]

You know..... If LE are looking at Video and find that the only footage of the girls on video is behind the Auction house at around 12:11 12:15 ish and they dint have a Hard fact as to anyone seeing them after that wouldn't you think they would start looking at the area near the action house as suspious....

Why wouldn't anyone see them at high noon on a summer day on summer vacation ?

this is what is so frustrating, and also why I doubt the senario of a van coming up and enticing the girls into it. LE and family members were actively going around town asking if anyone had seen 2 girls on bikes that afternoon before (the family members) and after LE was called in. as I stated on different occasions on this forum, my daughter's BF was at a different park in town and was asked if he or his friends had seen 2 girls on bikes or anything out of the ordinary. I just can't shake the feeling (especially after seeing the cc of them on their bikes and how fast they were moving) that they were on a mission. they had a destination in mind, and were getting there quick. Which makes me think that they were meeting someone. most kids dinking around on their bikes would be riding together leisurely and talking. maybe they were meeting someone in a boat or a paddle boat, which would account for LE looking for the mysterious paddle boater that never materialized...and that rock jetty near where the bikes were found would be a perfect place to pick up a couple of girls for a paddle boat ride. IMO