IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #30

[threecrazykids]

Here it is, the island before the destruction.

Oh yes...can't we all see the dying, sickly trees that consumed the island?

 

[BunnyHop]

What's up with the bricks costing $3000 each? Where I live, the local football stadium (Rutgers) has it where you can buy bricks that go into a brick walk to honor people. The prices are 4" x 8" is $250, 8" x 8" = $800 and 12" x 12" = $3000. So what is the size of the brick at Evansdale? And who is going to spend $3000 to buy some brick unless the park has some huge sentimental connection to their loved one? I honestly don't think that many people would be interested.

Eileen,
As an aside..............
I like to tell people I've been around the block a few hundred times,
I'm an old bag now, I've seen a lot in my day.

No one's gonna pull it over my eyes. :twocents:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[BunnyHop]

Eileen,
As an aside..............
I like to tell people I've been around the block a few hundred times,
I'm an old bag now, I've seen a lot in my day.

No one's gonna pull it over my eyes. :twocents:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Dexy's Midnight Runners LIVE Come on Eileen - YouTube

 

[Foxfire]

What's up with the bricks costing $3000 each? Where I live, the local football stadium (Rutgers) has it where you can buy bricks that go into a brick walk to honor people. The prices are 4" x 8" is $250, 8" x 8" = $800 and 12" x 12" = $3000. So what is the size of the brick at Evansdale? And who is going to spend $3000 to buy some brick unless the park has some huge sentimental connection to their loved one? I honestly don't think that many people would be interested.

eileenhawkeye, the $3,000.00 are for the granite benches. Not the memorial bricks.
I live in North GA and have a farm in Tate, GA. Tate is the Marble capitol of the world. GA Marble manufactures these memorial bricks for walk ways. They also have marble memorial benches..

The farm's driveway is built from bricks removed from the Centennial Olympic Park, after the Olympic park bombing by Eric Rudolf. The bricks were all replaced after the bombing. The inscriptions from all over the world are very interesting to read..

With that said. The Olympic Park Bricks were less than $20.00 per Brick and Marble Benches were less than $1500.00 inscribed..

Someone is gouging the folks for the bricks, and the memorial benches, imo...

Follow the money....imo..

 

[Marilynilpa]

O/T - world's number one distributor of child has been arrested:

John Shearen was arrested by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) on his 51st birthday in possession of up to 1 million images and videos.

Authorities said that Shearen was actively transferring the images and video to DVDs and in addition to the also found children's underwear which he informed agents he wears.

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[BunnyHop]

eileenhawkeye, the $3,000.00 are for the granite benches. Not the memorial bricks.
I live in North GA and have a farm in Tate, GA. Tate is the Marble capitol of the world. GA Marble manufactures these memorial bricks for walk ways. They also have marble memorial benches..

The farm's driveway is built from bricks removed from the Centennial Olympic Park, after the Olympic park bombing by Eric Rudolf. The bricks were all replaced after the bombing. The inscriptions from all over the world are very interesting to read..

With that said. The Olympic Park Bricks were less than $20.00 per Brick and Marble Benches were less than $1500.00 inscribed..

Someone is gouging the folks for the bricks, and the memorial benches, imo...

Follow the money....imo..

NY blue stone and granite here, :rocker:

 

[Reverie]

As soon as the bulldozers were on the move, I started looking for the plans - pretty much in shock that there appeared to be none. A renovation to six acres of public land needs an approved plan.

I've been surprised to read that the planning committee needs someone to make the plans. Did City Council carte blanche grant control of the land to a public interest group?

It's like the cart is so far in front of the horse that the horse doesn't know what it's pulling.

Great to see you again, Otto! :seeya: I have always felt that way about this fiasco. I'll go one further...maybe even more like an unassuming little caboose before an increasingly fueled freight train.

 

[Foxfire]

NY blue stone and granite here, :rocker:

old saying; up the river....hudson river..ny sing sing prison; quarried granite by the prisoners..
sing sing; native american; stone upon stone...

Sing Sing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[otto]

I put this together when I saw what happened.

 

[Reverie]

I think one of the biggest problems I have with the park is that the community had no prior knowledge that it was happening. There was no opportunity for them to voice their opinions. They didn't get approval from any environmental organizations and it doesn't look like the city or council even get explicit approval for all of this to happen. Some people might think that they just weren't thinking but it does seem deliberate to me. If they actually went through the right channels, this plan would probably take months or even years to implement. And there would be the possibility that it wouldn't happen at all. Also, the amount of effort going into this park in contrast to the whole *shrug* attitude about the killers...It is bothersome.

I couldn't agree more EileenH! The "powers that be" certainly seem to be above reproach. Almost untouchable...?

 

[Reverie]

Until I saw those photos, I didn't realize how totally they had obliterated everything about how the island used to look.

It makes me wonder why Dan is so focused on that part of the lake...like he thinks by stamping it out, he can stamp out a memory.

p.s. I might feel the same way if my child had been taken from a particular location. Like if I could make it into something different, it wouldn't remind me so much.

Do you mean "why Drew is so focused on that part of the lake"? IMO Dan M doesn't appear to be much involved in the plans for the memorial. Or did I miss something? :blushing: :moo:

 

[Reverie]

I want to share something that's been gnawing at me.

I lived in a semi-rural condo for 12 years. It was small, but I LOVED it. I felt safe. I raised my son here, went through HS etc.

One day, I came home from work and found my 2 beloved pine tree gone.
They welcomed me home every day. I literally cried my eyes out that that night. Who did it? How did they come to this decision? I wept for a week.

I want to know who and how the decision was made to decimate this small island and the wildlife that lived there.

All these trees and the wildlife are now gone.

evansdale iowa - Google Maps

Excellent questions! :seeya: Lets expand on this. Might the perp, or someone who knows of/wants to protect the perp have a motive? What if some small item of the girls MIGHT have been left on the island? Someone covering their tracks?

 

[Reverie]

Here it is, the island before the destruction.

Thanks for the great pic! It makes me want to cry, though. :moo:

 

[Reverie]

eileenhawkeye, the $3,000.00 are for the granite benches. Not the memorial bricks.
I live in North GA and have a farm in Tate, GA. Tate is the Marble capitol of the world. GA Marble manufactures these memorial bricks for walk ways. They also have marble memorial benches..

The farm's driveway is built from bricks removed from the Centennial Olympic Park, after the Olympic park bombing by Eric Rudolf. The bricks were all replaced after the bombing. The inscriptions from all over the world are very interesting to read..

With that said. The Olympic Park Bricks were less than $20.00 per Brick and Marble Benches were less than $1500.00 inscribed..

Someone is gouging the folks for the bricks, and the memorial benches, imo...

Follow the money....imo..

...and IMO you might find the perp...? :blushing: :moo:

 

[georger]

Excellent questions! :seeya: Lets expand on this. Might the perp, or someone who knows of/wants to protect the perp have a motive? What if some small item of the girls MIGHT have been left on the island? Someone covering their tracks?

In my opinion, whoever is moving this project forward, with or without approval, is just trying to get beyond the damage that they perceive has been done to the community's image, asap. Image means a lot to some people. And to some people image means everything!

 

[Dr. Know?]

I'm done with the memorial and complaints. That's a city matter. I'm here to figure out who murdered the girls.

 

[alliemay]

I'm done with the memorial and complaints. That's a city matter. I'm here to figure out who murdered the girls.

Ditto that!!

 

[dotr]

Why were those girls killed?

Random/ thrill murder?
planned/ targeted?
accidental?
lust?
revenge?
silence witness?
greed?
competition, work or personal?
disrupt community?

 

[Marilynilpa]

I'm done with the memorial and complaints. That's a city matter. I'm here to figure out who murdered the girls.

But as usual, when there is no new information we tend to discuss anything that is currently in the news about the girls. Right now, it's the memorial. JMO. And I see it as more than a "city matter", because it seems like something is taking place that has a life of its own, without city oversight or any type of control. JMO. And that makes me wonder - why?:waitasec:

 

[alliemay]

But as usual, when there is no new information we tend to discuss anything that is currently in the news about the girls. Right now, it's the memorial. JMO. And I see it as more than a "city matter", because it seems like something is taking place that has a life of its own, without city oversight or any type of control. JMO. And that makes me wonder - why?:waitasec:

I agree, when there is no new info we do tend to talk about what is currently in the news. Many posts back when you shared the link about the construction I was glad because at least it was something to talk about and keep the thread going.

I understand how people can be upset about the trees but it seems after a time there was more talk about that then there was about suggesting what the motives might be where the girls are concerned. Either way I do like to read any linked up dates about the girls. Really wish we could talk about who we think did it though.