IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #30

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Yes, I agree, that video really bugs me.

It bugs me how far apart they are, for one thing.

It bugs me how fast they're moving -- and even if you take into account the frame speed of the camera, they're still moving pretty fast.

It bugs me how isolated that area seems to be, even in the middle of town. There are lots of angles where there seems to be nothing but fences and street. It looks like the kind of place where even if somebody did scream, they might not be heard over the industrial noises and isolation.

If they were racing, that wouldn't seem unusual. Kids do things like that and they don't always notice the heat. But there's just something...off...about the way they're moving.

There's also something wrong with the timing.

Grandma was mad by 12.30, mad enough to jump in her car with her nephew and go looking.

This tells me that the girls were called in at least 12.15, to give grandma 15 minutes to build up a head of steam about them disobeying.

They were within earshot at 12.15, this is fact.

Why didn't they go inside at 12.15 when expected? Why do they appear to be speeding away from the house at 12.15?

I believe they were at the house at 12.15 and something or someone happened to make them speed to the lake instead of getting ready to leave with grandma.

I also feel the purse (and the bikes) were staged by the perp to imply a random, off-highway abduction.

:cow:
 
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Are you thinking that someone drove across an acreage that is private property and then crossed the creek with the children rather than driving on the public road that leads to that area? Why would anyone do that?

bbm & playing devil's advocate only - Perp couldn't know for sure that bodies wouldn't be discovered soon after he dumped them, which would be followed by LE interviewing all residents along the roadways leading to body site as to what they saw and combing said roadways/paths for evidence of the perp (perhaps even finding fresh tire tracks) and asking for all people in 7bridges park on or about July 13th to come forward.

However, if perp approaches 7bridges from the opposite side of the waterway via private property (and I remind everybody that not all private property has a perm residence and, even if it does, that residence might not be "in the reach of ear and eye" of all portions of said private property), and waded across the waterway or walked across a sandbar thereof, then hopefully LE will be combing all the wrong roadways and interviewing all the wrong local residents.

Now... back to being fox: I don't think the perp is intelligent enough to come up with the above, however, I do think he is cunning and manipulative enough to do so... having become practiced imo of covering his lame asp in a lesser crime over the years... you know, having managed to be the last person one would suspect.
 
  • #885
Given the additional information you provided, my earlier post that Exceptional Persons is an organization for intellectual and developmental disabilities was the correct organization:

http://wcfcourier.com/news/metro/co...cle_641f7819-3fab-5de7-9aa1-ff225e8664fd.html

Thanks for posting that article, that was the one I was trying to access through google when it froze up on me. Find it interesting that the person who created the original FB page states that this man tried to get her boys to get in his car. I'll have to try and find it again and post it.
 
  • #886
Thanks for posting that article, that was the one I was trying to access through google when it froze up on me. Find it interesting that the person who created the original FB page states that this man tried to get her boys to get in his car. I'll have to try and find it again and post it.

He's also the picture taker who drove a white van, painted it multi colored when people were calling the police on him for taking pictures of their kids. I personally told the guy that if I ever caught him taking pictures of my kids it was on and crackin.
 
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I know where the purse was found, and as I have always said, I think the perp befriended the girls, so the girls trusted him, so they were not afraid to go with him. JMO

Wouldn't that mean that the children voluntarily wandered off and that they were not abducted?
 
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Wouldn't that mean that the children voluntarily wandered off and that they were not abducted?

No..............it wouldn't mean that.
 
  • #891
I wonder than if the bodies have been released.

Yes the bodies have been released, there will be a PUBLIC service for the other cousin May 4th
 
  • #892
Yes the bodies have been released, there will be a PUBLIC service for the other cousin May 4th

Do you know when they were released?
 
  • #893
No..............it wouldn't mean that.

I must have misunderstood. Did that mean that the children were abducted, but that they were lured ... specifically by someone that they were happy to go with?

Regarding the method that was used to lure/abduct the children, I doubt we'll ever know that.
 
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I must have misunderstood. Did that mean that the children were abducted, but that they were lured ... specifically by someone that they were happy to go with?

Regarding the method that was used to lure/abduct the children, I doubt we'll ever know that.

I would say lure, than abducted.
 
  • #896
Wouldn't that mean that the children voluntarily wandered off and that they were not abducted?

It was an abduction, plain and simple. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous, IMO. Just because the girls may have gone willingly with the perp does not negate the fact that they were abducted. The perp knew he was abducting the girls, no matter what they girls may have thought.
 
  • #897
I wonder than if the bodies have been released.

I am going to go ahead and assume yes. With both families planning these events AFTER their Celebrations of Life, I believe the bodies are now released.

Otherwise, would they have 3 services? Celebration of Life, Funerals, and THEN a burial?

I can't see that happening...but stranger things have happened I suppose.

I'm going with the theory that bodies were released. Keep in mind, it was stated that Lyric's body would be cremated, Elizabeth's would be buried.

RIP baby girl...we will try our damnedest to bring justice to whomever ended your life so senselessly. :cry:
 
  • #898
I wonder if Dan was allowed to attend?
 
  • #899
I know I'll probably get in trouble for saying this, but the simplicity of Lyric's burial brings home to me how excessive the whole Angels Park Memorial Island of Evansdale project is. JMO.
 
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