IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #36

[watcher9]

I agree.
I wish something would break so we could keep them on page one until their case is solved and closed.

 

[Fukiyama]

These girls do not belong on page 8.

No one deserves to be on page eight, but that's life.

 

[KayBe]

http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/contractors-donate-to-angels-park-20150404

 

[iamnotagolem]

No one deserves to be on page eight, but that's life.

I know. I think that every time I bump an old unsolved case. Obviously I'm involved in some cases more than others, but I feel for all these unsolved cases. They all need solved, they all need time and attention devoted to them.

 

[Marilynilpa]

These girls do not belong on page 8.

You are right, they need to stay on page 1. I haven't checked in for awhile,

There was a newspaper article about needing topsoil for Angels Park, and a follow up article about donations pouring in. So it seems there is still a lot of local interest in the girls. If I can, I'll find the articles and link them.

ETA - guys, I still don't know how to link using my iPad. The follow-up article was in the WCF Courier on April 5, the title is "Contractors donate to Angels Park."

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[gregjrichards]

You are right, they need to stay on page 1. I haven't checked in for awhile,

There was a newspaper article about needing topsoil for Angels Park, and a follow up article about donations pouring in. So it seems there is still a lot of local interest in the girls. If I can, I'll find the articles and link them.

ETA - guys, I still don't know how to link using my iPad. The follow-up article was in the WCF Courier on April 5, the title is "Contractors donate to Angels Park."

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Thanks Marilynilpa here is the direct link http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/co...cle_4de8e309-d2e0-5f7a-acfa-8c0558c575be.html

 

[dotr]

This case has nothing to do with L & L, but a few things jumped out at me, such as, the victims were taken two at a time and found deceased, in the forest.
Ultimately, a well-established local was arrested for the crimes. Could it be that a "respectable " citizen could be responsible for Elizabeth and Lyric's murder?
Wondering if any correlations could help identify the culprit in this Iowa case?
Snippets from lengthy article...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tralian-who-preys-on-hitchhikers-1502600.html

"This raises the questions now begging to be answered: how did the victims get into the forest, a place where none of them could possibly have ventured voluntarily or stumbled into by mistake? Since all the backpackers except Miss Schmidl were travelling in pairs, and two of the pairs included robust young men, how did the killer manage to overpower them? Were there two killers at work? Did he or they drug the victims first?

Police have ruled nothing out, and are collecting soil samples from the death sites to test for drug traces. They are certain that the killer or killers knew the forest intimately - hence the worries of Bowral people - and that the victims were driven to their fates along the fire trails in a four-wheel drive vehicle.

Beyond that, Superintendent Small is playing his cards close to his chest. He told the Independent on Sunday: 'We do believe that the two British women were definitely murdered inside the forest."

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"'These people often get sexual gratification from the act of killing itself, even though they may have no physical contact with the victim in a sexual way,' he said. 'I believe this person is bad rather than mad. He's not suffering from insanity. It may well be that, as with other serial killers, he is able to mask his badness between episodes of killing. It may be that the person goes to work every day, is in a relationship with someone and has childen.'

Robert Ressler, the American expert who helped to set up the FBI's Behavioural Science Unit, which was depicted in the film Silence of the Lambs, was quoted yesterday as saying: 'They often look normal, which is how they manage to lure their victims. It makes the victims even more vulnerable because they do not perceive any danger from them. The one way to catch serial killers is to get inside their minds.'

Rbbm.

 

[dotr]

Unrelated??

http://whotv.com/2015/04/10/womans-body-found-face-down-in-west-des-moines-watery-ravine/

"WEST DES MOINES, Iowa — West Des Moines police are investigating after a body was found in what they called a “shallow ravine” near a townhome complex and they’re calling the woman’s death suspicious."

 

[carbuff]

"'These people often get sexual gratification from the act of killing itself, even though they may have no physical contact with the victim in a sexual way,' he said. ...'

Snipped by me -- this is what I was trying to get at in a number of my earlier posts when I said I wasn't sure there was a directly sexual motive. This is a really creepy aspect to me, the kind that sometimes keeps me awake nights...

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

It's been a long time since I posted the link...

Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook-Morrisey Case Archive:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...ns - Lyric Cook-Morrissey -IA-?sort=6&page=1

 

[Wondergirl]

Snipped by me -- this is what I was trying to get at in a number of my earlier posts when I said I wasn't sure there was a directly sexual motive. This is a really creepy aspect to me, the kind that sometimes keeps me awake nights...

It's best not to try and get inside the mind of a killer.

You may not want to know the details you think you do.

After years of being a WSer, I found myself mortified as I knew someone who became a serial killers final victim, and she had her own thread here. The things I know about her killer still make the hair stand on end.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[Squeeze]

Evansdale City Council fires police chief http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/article_eff3af46-1728-52f8-aa37-56d0e044839f.html

Smock has been fired.

 

[carbuff]

whoa.

 

[Aymstriss]

All I can say is that it is unrelatef


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[Aymstriss]

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[carbuff]

Yeah but still. Was it a surprise to the locals?

 

[Squeeze]

He resigned as fire chief a while ago. I hadn't heard anything else, but I don't live in Evansdale.

 

[threecrazykids]

Well, I guess whether related or not, hopefully this brings a new set of eyes over this case. I know several of us had our concerns about competency and the apparent relationship he had with the Collins family. Not saying it has anything to do with his firing, but may bring fresh perpesctive to the case.

 

[threecrazykids]

It also says he has been on extended leave from his position for a month and a half...wonder what brought all of this about...hmmmm

 

[threecrazykids]

https://www.facebook.com/wcfcourier?fref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/KWWL7

Comments under articles all seem to indicate that Chief Smock had some "extra-curricular activities" that didn't bode well with his peers. Can't say I blame them.