IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

[hollyblue]

Would never think of you as an old fogey. I am from the same era '60's. But, I never wore anything called a maxi dress nor have I ever heard of it. Maybe because I am short, but I don't recall this particular fashion on anyone. I think it sounds great for a cruise or some such thing. I will now have to check it out. Probably won't need it much in the piney woods where I am moving. lol

60's and 70's era here also. I still haunt thrift shops for old sleepwear from that time period...the material is so comfortable, especially in the summertime. Two sets have the bell bottom pants, the bell sleeves and tubing around the collar...along with a maxi robe of navy blue, guru collar with embroidery around it going straight down the front and on the bell sleeves. Prolly a poly and nylon mix. lol Very "cool".

 

[Jayarre]

I can't figure out why, if she was sentenced to 4 years in 2003, that she would have been released this last January. Wouldn't that be 8-9 years? I have a source inside the courthouse, but am reluctant to ask her to dig...Iowa's criminal court proceedings are publicly available anyway.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-io...ords-spotlight/story?id=16810959#.UAmrB2FfG84


Both Daniel and Misty have criminal records. In fact, Misty, whose maiden name is Cook, was just released from federal prison on May 30 after being convicted of nine crimes, including illegal drug use, association with persons involved in criminal activity, excessive alcohol use, and failure to comply with drug testing.

Eight years earlier, in 2003, she was sentenced to four years behind bars after she plead guilty to conspiracy to manufacture and distribute methamphetamine. Her sentence was later shortened to five months in prison and one year of supervised release. In 1998 she was found guilty of having an open container of alcohol in a vehicle and in 1997 she plead guilty a false report to law enforcement, a crime for which she was sentenced to six days in jail.

Misty also ran into trouble along with one of her bosses. According to court papers, Misty played a role in a meth operation run by David Mickelson, her former boss at the BIG Ten Mart in Waterloo, Iowa.

"Cook testified that she obtained pseudoephedrine pills from various people and provided them to Scott Reavis, who used them to make methamphetamine," court records state.

Cook twice purchased case quantities of pseudoephedrine pills from Mickelson – for $1,400 a case – and provided them to Reavis to make meth. Mickelson was convicted of conspiracy to manufacture meth and distribute pseudoephedrine with that intent. He was sentenced to 121 months in jail.

 

[kmartin96]

I am not sure that is completely true. I find it odd that the parents are not sobbing and looking hopeless, and I live right in the neighborhood. I do not think that it is wrong though. I think everyone handles tragedy and stress differently. My family had a major tragedy and most of us were medicated the second day to handle the emotional pain. I could not cry while on this medication. It left me feeling neutral even though it was the worst time in my life.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health...t-use-skyrocketed-in-past-20-years/50826442/1

Statistically, at least 1 in 10 Americans are on an anti-depressant. I myself have taken the run-of-the-mill (non addictive) Lexpro for approx. 10 years...and I know that while it greatly stablilizes mood, it also affects the abilty to outwardly express (and sometimes FEEL) high highs and low lows. There have been many occasions where I felt REALLY bad or sad...and just couldn't cry. There have been times when I have felt guilty over my inabilty to shed tears when it would have been appropriate (death of a loved one, etc). I DON"T know about the effects of meth and prison, but simple antidepressants can make a person seem very UNDER reactive. JMO ....

 

[GrainneDhu]

Shouldnt the parole officers have been doing this all along anyway? Even before the girls went missing?

imo

In Iowa, it's optional. He's not currently on parole, he's facing trial in September.

 

[cluciano63]

Can you post a picture>thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251110837145?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

i don't know how
here is a link?

tab down, the purple one with stars

 

[Ollipop]

Has LE issued any kind of warning telling parents to keep their children inside and to be on the watch? tia

No, in fact they have stated that they don't feel they have any reason to believe children/people in the area are in danger. Not everyone is so confident in LE's statements lately, tho.

And as for searching cars, which I hear they are doing again (remember, it was about this time of day last week that these girls went missing), they didn't check cars until Monday. No Amber Alert, and it seemed like LE just assumed the girls would be found in that lake or nearby, so anyone who may have had those girls in a vehicle had 72 hours to get out of the area before running the risk of getting stopped at one of 3-4 intersections they were checking at that time. I've heard many locals frustrated by the fact that LE seems reluctant to accept that someone may have come to this community and left with those girls. Like its the last possible option to explore.

 

[Pensfan]

I can't figure out why, if she was sentenced to 4 years in 2003, that she would have been released this last January. Wouldn't that be 8-9 years? I have a source inside the courthouse, but am reluctant to ask her to dig...Iowa's criminal court proceedings are publicly available anyway.

Perhaps whoever reported that she was sentenced to 4 years was incorrect?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, here`s what federal authorities are telling us. In 2003 Lyric Cook`s mom, Misty, who we`ve been talking to on the show for a couple of days now, was sentenced for conspiracy to manufacture and distribute methamphetamine. 

Now, last September they say that she violated the terms of her supervision and then served another five months in prison. She was then sent to a halfway house and got out just two months ago. 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/19/ijvm.01.html

 

[threecrazykids]

I went to lunch today with someone who is related to this family, and I would like to maybe tell what she told me. I am not sure how much can be shared here? It's nothing earth shattering like "they know who did it" etc... but I think it would be of interest...I don't want to get in trouble for posting something I shouldn't or can't...I'm too new to the boards and don't want to be booted.

 

[Paulette]

A parent doesn't cry enough. Something is just not right.
A parent cries too much. He/she is trying too hard.

A parent doesn't look as upset as he/she should.
A parent looks too upset. It must be fake.

A parent is too "sure" about what happened to their child. How can they feel so sure? It's suspicious.
A parent has no idea what happened to their child. This child was not supervised appropriately.

A family is airing their "dirty laundry." Why? Something is nefarious about that.
A family tried to keep their pasts secret from the public. Why? They are trying to hide something.

A child was living with another relative, not the parents. The child must have emotional issues since he/she is not living with the parents.
A child is living with his/her parents. The parents do not get along. They argue. They had a fight. Why didn't a relative take in this child so he/she would not have to deal with these emotional issues?

It seems like these type of judgements happen everytime a child goes missing for an extended time. No matter how a parent acts or what a parent does, someone finds fault and believes that it means something. Why? And why are people so convinced that they know exactly how they would act in a situation that has never happened to them? Fear, maybe? Fear that if the parents of the missing child are not uncaring parents or are not from a "bad" family (show me a perfect family and I'll show you a family who is hiding something) that this could happen to anyone. Anyone like one of us.

I love that you wrote this! IMO, this is exactly why you want to hire a lawyer ASAP - before anything and everything you say and do gets distorted. I've heard of many cases where LE infers exactly what they want to believe about the parents and anyone involved.

 

[elepher50]

Boats appear to be leaving Meyers Lake. There are no officials on the lake or near shore. #evansdalesearch
by eSchettler via twitter 4:04 PM

http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdale_search/

 

[Ollipop]

Upon suggestion, my friend and I visited this site last night... rattled doesn't even begin to describe it! Granted, IMO she is a very ill woman (And honestly, after all she's been through, I feel terribly sorry for her) but some of the info there was chilling!

Aye, she comes off as crazy, which was used to discredit her many times. But I don't see how anyone could live thru what she did and not come out a little crazy.

 

[Pensfan]

I went to lunch today with someone who is related to this family, and I would like to maybe tell what she told me. I am not sure how much can be shared here? It's nothing earth shattering like "they know who did it" etc... but I think it would be of interest...I don't want to get in trouble for posting something I shouldn't or can't...I'm too new to the boards and don't want to be booted.

Don't post a name, but please post the family's theory!

 

[GrainneDhu]

Many people don't show their emotions and keep a stiff upper lip. They cry in private and then pull it together for the public. That happened with the baby that was taken by the Dingo - the mother wasn't emotional and this hurt her and she was sent to prison for something she did not do - people didn't like her stoic approach to the trial or the loss of her child - and she said she refused to cry for the public - it was private.

Being stoic and trying to reassure others by smiling, etc, is also an Iowa cultural thing. Making too much show of emotion publicly is looked askance.

If you follow Garrison Keillor and The Prairie Home Companion, Lake Wobegon is similar to Iowa.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Just ran across this article, sorry if it's been posted earlier:

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/judge-puts-dad-of-1481360.html

 

[GrainneDhu]

I think there are many possibilities and that makes it so much the harder to uncover. I wonder what the take is on the street? A town of 5,000 people - isn't it hard to hide things? What about video feed at motels or odd people visiting or acting strange - has all the video feeds been gone over in the chance that LE might recognize a known bad guy - even one from out of town?

Being Iowa, I'm actually a little surprised that people from a 100 mile radius haven't deluged LE with their summer photos and videos in an attempt to be helpful. In addition to every locally owned business offering up whatever video or photos they may have.

Chain stores have to follow corporate policy.

 

[hollyblue]

No, in fact they have stated that they don't feel they have any reason to believe children/people in the area are in danger. Not everyone is so confident in LE's statements lately, tho.

And as for searching cars, which I hear they are doing again (remember, it was about this time of day last week that these girls went missing), they didn't check cars until Monday. No Amber Alert, and it seemed like LE just assumed the girls would be found in that lake or nearby, so anyone who may have had those girls in a vehicle had 72 hours to get out of the area before running the risk of getting stopped at one of 3-4 intersections they were checking at that time. I've heard many locals frustrated by the fact that LE seems reluctant to accept that someone may have come to this community and left with those girls. Like its the last possible option to explore.

Are they using dogs with vehicle searches? TIA

 

[elepher50]

VANSDALE, Iowa — In light of current events, FBI spokesperson Sandy Breault urged the media to spread the world of the FBI’s new Child ID application for the iPhone and Android devices.

Available for free, the application stores any and all information parents could send to FBI or show authorities, if their child were to go missing.

http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdale_search/

 

[Pacipirate]

Aye, she comes off as crazy, which was used to discredit her many times. But I don't see how anyone could live thru what she did and not come out a little crazy.

I absolutely agree! I don't know how I'd go on. I empathize deeply.

On that note, my children are young, we've had stranger danger talks before, but without freaking them out I'm desperately trying to find a way to express how dangerous it is and how they are NEVER to go anywhere with a stranger. How to react if someone grabs them. As an aside, any advice? They are 5 and newly 3, and while I think some got through to my oldest (he's really sharp, he even said "If someone grabs me, is it ok to kick them... in the BOTTOM?"...) but I find that, as he's incredibly imaginative, he creates all of these fictitious scenarios where he creates disguises, etc. Any advice on a way to SERIOUSLY get this through to young children?? This has me completely unnerved! Is there a resource (So as not to disrupt the activity and flow of this forum)?

 

[GrainneDhu]

It has been described by many local WSers in Iowa as being an Iowa culture to remain stoic on the outside no matter what you may be thinking or wanting to do.

Ollipop described it best as a duck very calmly skimming across the lake looking all calm like but underneath the water the feet are going like mo-fos.

I have accepted this as a cultural difference and moved past it based on the input from our local WSers.

Watch out or I'll have to write a post about correct behaviour for Iowans at a pig roast.

And that will move me on to the Heinold racing pigs and all will be lost.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Ollipop]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-io...ords-spotlight/story?id=16810959#.UAmrB2FfG84


Both Daniel and Misty have criminal records. In fact, Misty, whose maiden name is Cook, was just released from federal prison on May 30 after being convicted of nine crimes, including illegal drug use, association with persons involved in criminal activity, excessive alcohol use, and failure to comply with drug testing.

Eight years earlier, in 2003, she was sentenced to four years behind bars after she plead guilty to conspiracy to manufacture and distribute methamphetamine. Her sentence was later shortened to five months in prison and one year of supervised release. In 1998 she was found guilty of having an open container of alcohol in a vehicle and in 1997 she plead guilty a false report to law enforcement, a crime for which she was sentenced to six days in jail.

Misty also ran into trouble along with one of her bosses. According to court papers, Misty played a role in a meth operation run by David Mickelson, her former boss at the BIG Ten Mart in Waterloo, Iowa.

"Cook testified that she obtained pseudoephedrine pills from various people and provided them to Scott Reavis, who used them to make methamphetamine," court records state.

Cook twice purchased case quantities of pseudoephedrine pills from Mickelson – for $1,400 a case – and provided them to Reavis to make meth. Mickelson was convicted of conspiracy to manufacture meth and distribute pseudoephedrine with that intent. He was sentenced to 121 months in jail.

How much time do you get for these crimes? Federal prison for drug use, associating with criminals, getting drunk? That doesn't seem realistic to me. I'm going to have someone dig. My impression was she was sentenced and served back in 2003 (I know many prison terms in Iowa will be instantly reduced due to overcrowding, etc). She got out, would have been on parole/probation, and got in some more trouble. I haven't heard specifically when she was released from federal prison, what trouble she got into that sent her back, or that she was sent back to prison or a halfway house. I've heard she was released from a facility in May after being required to serve 5 more months.

I don't think she was released in May after being sentenced for those 9 crimes. I think she served that time, was on some form of supervised release, broke the conditions of that release, and had to go back in Jan for 5 more months. I can't believe she'd be out for years, then have to go back to federal prison for something like getting drunk.