IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #9

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I still have it up in another window, fwiw. It's just cryptic, and I agree seems like a psychic. (Or maybe someone involved calling for advice knowing they can't just pick up the phone.)

At any rate, am I correct in assuming that people are now questioning what the "errands" were that TB and WC had to run, even after WC had been so worried she drove around for an hour looking for the girls?

And I don't remember LE ever saying that they had evidence that the girls were alive. They said they had evidence, they said they have strong reason to believe the girls are alive. I suppose those mean the same thing, tho.

I was guessing something was found on Lyric's phone, or perhaps that things were missing from one/both of the homes that implied the girls might know they'd be leaving. I just don't see how both girls get involved in this type of family-crafted plot. Why one from each family?

I mean, a theory that members of the family may be somehow behind this holds weight, but not considerably more weight than a random chance encounter at the lake, IMO.

Dang i wish i had my computer running. I saved it!! The fbi lady was walking with reporter on sidewalk and said" we have physical evidence that the girls are alive but i cant get into that right now" that is exactly how she said it too!! if i get my computer up and running tomorrow i will post it :-) believe me i kept rewinding it over and over.
 
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Maybe he's wondering if his tent can be legally searched w/o a warrant?

For couples having sex?

I'm sorry, I'm tired and it's late. I have this ridiculous vision of a full SWAT team surrounding a pup tent that is vibrating suggestively. The SWAT team starts screaming, flashlights pop on all over the campground and finally, a young woman comes crawling out trying to keep one hand in the air.

She explains the other person in the tent can't come out because he passed out from fright.
 
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For couples having sex?

I'm sorry, I'm tired and it's late. I have this ridiculous vision of a full SWAT team surrounding a pup tent that is vibrating suggestively. The SWAT team starts screaming, flashlights pop on all over the campground and finally, a young woman comes crawling out trying to keep one hand in the air.

She explains the other person in the tent can't come out because he passed out from fright.

See the world is full of freaks!! Who would put that in craigslist? Seriously?? A freak. Lol
 
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Forget about trying to figure out motive at this point. Just look at the timing and coordination of events, what people said, what has been put into LE's timeline and what has not. Don't focus on shiny objects like paddleboats, and bikers, and runners, and some guy at the lake. Just run the timeline based on the story that has been told. See where that leaves you.

Seeing that we haven't been allowed to talk about ANY of those people since they 're not considered offical poi's by LE , let's say a few of us felt early on that certain people known to the children could be involved. :p

More than one of us had theories removed right after viewing the families first news interview, iykwim. :peace:
 
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Well another start of the week. Going to pray safely for the return of those two sweet girls that are missing. I really hope they get a break in the case and find them and bring them home to their families. And maybe if some of those family members havent been the best, well maybe they will not take their kids for granted ever again!! I have four kids and they are my world and i would never want to be questioned of their well being. I remember one night my 15 year didnt come home yet from a dirt bike ride and it was late and dark.. I freaked thinking we were going to find him dead. But i didnt see i had a text from him saying they went swimming. My heart was down to my feet, and that was 15 minutes of my life that i never want to feel again. I cant imagine ever ever missing a child!!!

Back in my day, having a child go missing in the late 80's was nothing like today. No cell phones, texting, facebooking etc...found mine after 5 weeks tg, 2200 miles or more away. My story would chill you to the bones with so little help. I'm writing it, poor person who has to edit it. lol!
 
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For couples having sex?

I'm sorry, I'm tired and it's late. I have this ridiculous vision of a full SWAT team surrounding a pup tent that is vibrating suggestively. The SWAT team starts screaming, flashlights pop on all over the campground and finally, a young woman comes crawling out trying to keep one hand in the air.

She explains the other person in the tent can't come out because he passed out from fright.

LOL what? people do that in tents?? NO WAY ?!? (I'm sorry.. off topic and probably a little rude but it cracked me up.. I learned more than I ever wanted to about our friends on various camping trips). For the record I also think I'd notice anything NOT OK in a second on those same trips. IMO, IME, not implicating anyone, just thinking. And SO SO hoping absolutely none of this applies to this case. I know naive but I just want these girls to be ok, innocent and ok would be great. Dang it where are they?
 
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So grandma & Tammy left the house, misty & heather called them, they came back and then Tammy said to the lake....????

I'll see if I can find the first interview links. They are here somewhere are IMHO provide invaluable info. ;)
 
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Dang i wish i had my computer running. I saved it!! The fbi lady was walking with reporter on sidewalk and said" we have physical evidence that the girls are alive but i cant get into that right now" that is exactly how she said it too!! if i get my computer up and running tomorrow i will post it :-) believe me i kept rewinding it over and over.

That's great. I'd sure believe I could have missed it. I've barely been able to keep up all week. I need another vacation.

For couples having sex?

I'm sorry, I'm tired and it's late. I have this ridiculous vision of a full SWAT team surrounding a pup tent that is vibrating suggestively. The SWAT team starts screaming, flashlights pop on all over the campground and finally, a young woman comes crawling out trying to keep one hand in the air.

She explains the other person in the tent can't come out because he passed out from fright.

Well, he's not going to come out and say, "Hey, how long do you think I could hide a body in a tent?," or, "So if I cook meth in a tent, can the ranger come over and look inside?" So instead he cooks up this fantastical hypothetical, lol.

I remember when I used to work room service in a nice resort. We had keys to every room, and basically carte blanche to enter at will. We would stumble onto all manner of sick and twisted, because ppl didn't expect someone to be in the room. (We might have to go in and set up, say, a bottle of champagne sent by the parents for some newlyweds, or something. Sometimes we were supposed to have it done by the time they checked in, but either we were late or they were early or something.) The point is, once you have the key, a hotel room is considered your personal domicile, and you are therefore afforded the same rights as if in your own home. Obviously, hotels put restrictions for their own safety, but still, cops can't barge in w/o probable cause. I was always fascinated by the fact that we would stumble onto 🤬🤬🤬🤬 shoots, drug dens, hidden pets, etc, and were instructed to overlook anything because technically we were breaking and entering, lol. Amazingly, a plastic card hanging on the doorknob, "Do Not Disturb," was too formidable for us to attempt to circumvent. But without that thing hanging on the knob, we'd enter at will (usually knocking first, obv.) I knew a mini-bar guy that loved to use the restrooms in the penthouses. He'd grab a magazine and be in there for an hour, knowing someone could be checking in at any moment.

Strange world we got here.
 
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Back in my day, having a child go missing in the 80's was nothing like today. No cell phones, texting, facebooking etc...found mine after 5 weeks tg, 2200 miles or more away. My story would chill you to the bones with so little help. I'm writing it, poor person who has to edit it. lol!

Omg that is so horrible. I am so sorry. I would love to read it. That makes me sad to think of how you must have felt. I cant imagine. I hope the outcome was good? :,-(
 
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We were just saying how LE said there was physical evidence.

Likely, IMO, finger prints from the bikes and maybe amp cans.
 
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I thought maybe the physical evidence might be that they found something in the car belonging to "somebody" when it was seized or pulled over with "somebody's" cell phone in it, because that is when LE said that I believe...I could be totally wrong, and they wouldn't comment on it. Also, there may have been several vehicles involved, but that is just my own personal opinion..sort of like handing over the olympic torch...car to car...with several people involved, who may or may not have their best interests in mind. MOO

Jmo but I say nay because that would have involved too much planning and was too dangerous to pull off in the middle of the day. :moo:
 
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anyone see this ad? Not trying to say its connected, but just to demonstrate that there are people that have no problem doing this type of thing.

legality of sex in a tent? - m4m - 25 (CR)

Date: 2012-07-22, 10:51PM CDT
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Quick question.... my girl friend want to have sex in a tent in a campground. I have never had sex in a tent in a camp ground. Is it legal? What level of privacy can be expected. I mean, can the park ranger ask us to come out of our tent? If we have paid all the registration fees, can we expect privacy as if we were in a hotel room? what you think?
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I'm lost, lol. What does that have to do with the girls disappearance?
 
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I know but see how does that say they are still alive?

Evidence will point to the likely perps.

No way to know from that evidence
if the girls are alive.
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Weird. You stalkin me? I just typed something about the sunshine law on FB moments before you posted this.

Never thought about stalking you. It's kind of common sense on cases and when a missing childs case is lacking info in the 3rd week, I usually check the laws on the release of info from that state. FOIA or sunshine laws.

Don't flatter yourself, check my almost 5000 posts.
 
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There are 3 pictures of thr rSO on the Iowa sex offenders site. To me the 2010 picture looks the most alike.


I don't think it is the same guy but man when you flip through all 3 pictures on the RSO list it is not hard to see the "faces of meth" look. :what:
 
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