Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #12

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  • #661
Why the different stories! Red shirt missing. No, not missing.

Homework late into the evening. No, she never made it home.

Strange
 
  • #662
I may be in the minority on this but I used to always take my phone on my jobs. Now, I leave it at home. Depends on how you carry it, I suppose. But I feel like, unless the phone is strapped to your arm, it is a distraction and can make you less aware of your surroundings.
I don’t like to jog with my phone simply because of the weight. I think it’s better to run with it though in case something bad happens and you need help. That’s especially true if you are a female and jogging in an isolated area. I think the fact that she may have had her phone with her may lead to evidence that could be a huge lead in this case.
 
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Question, and likely already covered here, if and when would the dogs have been locked in the basement under normal circumstances? Meaning was it normal for her and the Nd to do this? Would she have done this when she went for a jog, or if they left the house? Meaning were they down there so they didn’t “get into” things, etc? Tia and sorry for rehash, so many posts, doing my best.

It seems more likely she would have been abducted while jogging, imo, or someone saw her and followed her. Again confused about the timeline. Thank you for responding.

Most people I know who keep their dogs downstairs while they are gone want to keep them from getting into things upstairs. I’ve seen them put their dogs downstairs if children come over. It’s a safe place for the dogs. If the dogs bark while your busy visiting they go downstairs.

Here is a link I found today. There are many photos. If you scroll down to the last of the photos you’ll find a photo of her and the dogs. One is 1/2 Pitbull 1/2 Lab the other is a boxer mix. I’d feel real safe with them.
Mother of missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts says she does not believe she returned home | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #664
One more question, how often had she stayed at the boyfriend’s house in the past, and during these stays did she jog at this regular time and route, tia.

If the answer is not often and not jogging on a regular schedule then one has to consider a crime of opportunity. Is this a fair assumption? (Depending on the answer to this question). Thanks again for responding and sorry for rehash.
 
  • #665
Why the different stories! Red shirt missing. No, not missing.

Homework late into the evening. No, she never made it home.

Strange
Don’t forget though, the family isn’t privy to what the police know, and they may disagree with what the police think. I find this to be understandable.
 
  • #666
Thinking shirt is not hers.
If not...even fewer clues for LE than I imagined. Hoped the shirt would lead to Mollie.
My latest thoughts are she stayed in jogging clothes, did computer work, sent pic, put dogs downstairs and headed for family home to spend the night and go to work from there. I wish her mom jad clarified if she has extra contacts though.
 
  • #667
One more question, how often had she stayed at the boyfriend’s house in the past, and during these stays did she jog at this regular time and route, tia.

If the answer is not often and not jogging on a regular schedule then one has to consider a crime of opportunity. Is this a fair assumption? (Depending on the answer to this question). Thanks again for responding and sorry for rehash.
I don’t know how many times she stayed there but the mother stated that Mollie kept belongings at both houses, so take that for what it’s worth. We know she jogged regularly as she was involved with cross country.
 
  • #668
So let’s take a look at similar of women abducted while jogging. Not attacked on site, but actually forced into a vehicle. In these cases how far were they taken and to where? Often with children they are taken back to the perp’s home (Jessica R, Hailey O), sometimes they are taken to a nearby isolated location where they are assaulted and usually killed immediately. Since there has been a massive search effort closeby I wonder how far she has been taken out..I realize there are lots of cornfields etc...sorry thinking out loud, not sure where I’m going wth this post...
 
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So let’s take a look at similar of women abducted while jogging. Not attacked on site, but actually forced into a vehicle. In these cases how far were they taken and to where? Often with children they are taken back to the perp’s home (Jessica R, Hailey O), sometimes they are taken to a nearby isolated location where they are assaulted and usually killed immediately. Since there has been a massive search effort closely i wonder how far she has been taken out..I realize there are lots of cornfields etc...sorry thinking out loud, not sure where I’m going wth this post...
All the cases that I have in mind include an attack in the immediate area. They are encountered upon a trail or road and forced into the woods, where the assault and murder occurs. A difference here is geography. The perp could use a cornfield, but assuming that he has a vehicle, it might be conspicuous on the side of the road. This would necessitate transportation to another area.
 
  • #670
My mind is going to the Karina Vetrano case in NYC from two summers ago. Her body was located in a marshy area where she went jogging.
Man, 20, Charged With Murder in Death of Karina Vetrano
If Mollie was grabbed by a landowner on his land, that person would obviously have a great incentive to remove her body from his land. That might not have been that difficult since she was out running as night was approaching. I pray she is found safe.
 
  • #671
The Electric business next door (hopefully this mention isn't against TOS) is, to me, a strong point of origination. Someone dropping a payment off (could be done after hours, as prev. mentioned) became aware of her presence alone in that house. Whether it was an organized abduction, and thought out in advance, or disorganized, spur of the moment, I don't know. Just for me, logically, it's the proximity and opportunity that's standing out. I just don't think her abductor was someone she knew, even vaguely, from Brooklyn. I sure hope she makes it home. And, I know, also, a lot of ppl have trouble understanding ppl not locking doors. Very common, as many here who live or lived in Iowa, like myself, have mentioned. It's just the way it often is. As well as a general friendliness to whoever knocks on your door for, say, a glass of water. My guard went *way* down living there.
 
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The electric co op offered to match a $1,000 reward on Saturday the 28th they also set up a tip hotline. At first I chalked it up as a small town pulling together and the co op’s relation to the home. However, Is it possible that their security cameras caught something that after review, compelled them to financially assist?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...case-of-missing-iowa-student-doubles-to-2-000
 
  • #673
Can someone please bring forward the latest case map? Tia.
 
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So let’s take a look at similar of women abducted while jogging. Not attacked on site, but actually forced into a vehicle. In these cases how far were they taken and to where? Often with children they are taken back to the perp’s home (Jessica R, Hailey O), sometimes they are taken to a nearby isolated location where they are assaulted and usually killed immediately. Since there has been a massive search effort closely i wonder how far she has been taken out..I realize there are lots of cornfields etc...sorry thinking out loud, not sure where I’m going wth this post...
I think it depends on who took her and why. I still think it was someone she knew. If he took her because he was infatuated with her, then I don't think she was killed immediately. I hope she is being held - alive. But I doubt that's the case now. If she didn't know her abductor, then I figure she was sexually assaulted and killed immediately. But that's JMO.
 
  • #675
Another question and thought is is were there any workers nearby, lawn, maintenancee, plumber, handy man, electrician etc etc, I’m sure LE would know if there had been any recent visitors to the home for such purposes. Maybe a neighbor had one of these visits?

I really want to know how often she was at the bf’s house. Was it on certain nights, etc.?

Also when had she last walked the dogs?

Any areas under construction nearby? Homes?

What bridges are within a couple hours of the location?
 
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Another question and thought is is there were any workers nearby, lawn, maintenancee, plumber, handy man, electrician etc etc, I’m sure LE would know if there had been any recent visitors to the home for such purposes. Maybe a neighbor had one of these visits?

I really want to know how often she was at bf’s house. Was it on certain nights, etc.

Also when had she last walked the dogs?
I haven’t had any of these questions answered by everything I’ve read thus far. We know she stayed there atleast often enough to necessitate leaving some of her stuff there. To go a bit further with your questions, I’d like to know how often this particular situation arose where she would be house sitting.
 
  • #677
I wonder if Texas Equusearch will be called in at any point.
 
  • #678
Another question and thought is is were there any workers nearby, lawn, maintenancee, plumber, handy man, electrician etc etc, I’m sure LE would know if there had been any recent visitors to the home for such purposes. Maybe a neighbor had one of these visits?

I really want to know how often she was at bf’s house. Was it on certain nights, etc.

Also when had she last walked the dogs?

Any areas under construction nearby? Homes?

What bridges are within a couple hours of the location?

From the article it sounds like she stayed there often.

"Mollie sometimes changed for work at her mom’s house before taking the Pontiac but also kept clothes and possessions at Dalton Jack’s house.

'She sort of lived across both houses, she had her stuff in both places,' he told DailyMail.com.

Jack said Mollie would sometimes borrow his truck, a Dodge Ram 1500, and head straight to work without stopping in at her mom’s place."

Mother of missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts says she does not believe she returned home | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #679
From the article it sounds like she stayed there often.

"Mollie sometimes changed for work at her mom’s house before taking the Pontiac but also kept clothes and possessions at Dalton Jack’s house.

'She sort of lived across both houses, she had her stuff in both places,' he told DailyMail.com.

Jack said Mollie would sometimes borrow his truck, a Dodge Ram 1500, and head straight to work without stopping in at her mom’s place."

Mother of missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts says she does not believe she returned home | Daily Mail Online
Thanks again for answering these questions again and for your patience. This is helpful not only for me who is limited on time, but also for new posters and people joining Mollie’s case. Also thanks to everyone in advance for keeping the media thread updated.

IA - MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION - Molly Tibbetts,20, Poweshiek County
 
  • #680
I am actually hanging out with my dogs with the front door open in our small town. It’s 11pm. Perhaps I need to up my spidey sense.
 
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