Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #17

[InvSmith]

Dated for 18 months years ago (based on the photo in the video) and still allegedly stalking her and her daughters. Concerning to say the least.

I'm curious if others will come forward who may be random strangers that recognize him and noticed him following or stalking them in the past. That would give more credibility to him possibly being considered a part of Mollie's disappearance.

Wow. Thank you for the video link.

 

[PaulR]

Wasn’t Lyle Stevik using an assumed name for decades, though? He didn’t just check into a hotel room with the assumed name - it was the name he’d been living under.

I think you mean Joseph Newton Chandler, he had been living with that name for decades but killed himself at home. Lyle was in his early 20s or so.

 

[jman07]

First time posting. I have been following along and following the case closely. I try to leave any emotion out of my thoughts and just think logically. I personally disagree with a lot of the theories here, sex trafficing, random abduction, etc. What I believe RT thinks actually happened is exactly what I have thought all along, most of which I am not allowed to post because of the people I believe may have been involved. I am extremely curious about WC, but not about he himself. He seems like a great target to be framed.

 

[Doghairrules]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/914688002

This sounds more like the other folks around the country reporting black people for living their lives to me. Or an urban legend type thing.

 

[CrimeReporter]

This case is not so unusual (IMO) based on a comparison of many of missing young women cases.

20 yr old females are often emotional, thanks to good ole hormones + college + growing up. She wasn't seen as mentally ill or suicidal by anyone who knew her. Social media postings are very typical of someone her age.

This is not someone who just decided to leave her life behind and run off, torturing her family with worry. There is nothing that suggests this. She went for a jog, something normal she did most days.

IMO she isn't missing because she wants to be; she met with foul play, probably someone she didn't know. And I'm sorry to talk reality, but she is most likely deceased and has been since the day/night of her disappearance. Anyone who follows crime cases comes to realize this type of crime is very, very common. Too common.

This is the same as so many cases that have happened before. Right down to the family insisting their loved one is still alive and just can't come home -- this is typical to what many families of missing young adults do -- it's the way they cope until such time as they have to face the worst a family can face.

No, it is not common. That's why the FBI got involved, that's why it's in the news -- because it's unusual. People are rarely abducted or killed by complete strangers. When a person is killed or abducted by a stranger, when there's not a robbery or altercation involved, it's unusual and attracts media attention. The media attention might make it seem that crimes committed by strangers are common, but the reality is that such killings or rapes are very rare.

 

[PaulR]

Oh for cr*p's sake. Thank you!

This part is very good:

A woman said she was driving home from Iowa City on U.S. Highway 6 when two silver cars with "black guys" inside pulled over. When she passed them, she said, they started following her with their hazard lights on. Another van on the side of the road also started following her with its hazards on.

Hazard lights! I remember that urban legend! Gang initiation rites in the '80s. I'm waiting to hear about LSD stamps with Mickey Mouse on them next.

 

[tlneedham]

She mentions breathing problems while running in this 2016 video: Mollie Tibbetts speaks about prayer in 2016 video

I don’t know her situation, but I discovered I had exercise-induced asthma when I took up running one summer and it makes breathing difficult, but has never gone into a full-blown asthma attack. So if you asked me if I had asthma, I’d say no—because to me, it’s not the same as what someone who truly has asthma as to deal with all the time.

 

[Detective Willy]

So frustrating that there is no real news. It looked like this was close to being solved 1 week ago and now is looking like a cold case. In Australia we are so used to your US crime shows being solved in under an hour lol - it really goes to show how fake the Detectives are portrayed on TV and Movies and how easily people can still get away with crimes. Even murder. Its a long road for LE to solve this stuff.

 

[wary]

Wasn’t Lyle Stevik using an assumed name for decades, though? He didn’t just check into a hotel room with the assumed name - it was the name he’d been living under.

I thought Lyle Stevik was only about 25 years old? Any chance that you mean Joseph Newton Chamdler, another one of DNA Does' triumphs. He had been living under that name for decades.

 

[MsBetsy]

I let my mind go somewhere tonight that I'd been trying not to go: what if this had been me? I don't mean trying to see this from anybody's perspective, literally what if this had been me? I live in a small rural community near Brooklyn. I have two teenage daughters, both athletic and attractive. The life we lead is a lot like the life Molly was leading, even our dogs are similar. What if I walked into an empty house and realized my daughter was missing?

But I'm telling you this because I totally understand why Mollie's dad thinks she left with someone she knows. If I walked into my house and realized my daughter was missing under these same circumstances, that's really the only plausible explanation. If the dogs were kenneled it could only be because she put them there, and that would only be because she's leaving. And she would only be leaving with someone she knows and trusts. I'd have no idea who that someone might be and I'd also have no idea why she didn't return. Like Mollie's dad, I wouldn't be able to envision she's missing voluntarily so somebody must be preventing her from calling home. Maybe it really is voluntary, but as her dad he can't wrap his head around that and neither could I.

Mollie's dad isn't saying what he's saying out of hope or desperation, this is really the most likely scenario and the only one that makes sense. He's definitely talking not only to Mollie, but directly to the person she left with. This isn't strategy or mind games, he just wants his daughter back.

You must have read my mind because as soon as I saw your post about you having teenage daughters I wanted to ask what you would think in the same situation but didn't dare. I know from the very beginning you thought she left on her own. I have a teenage daughter and although you never know how you'll feel until it happens, I think I would fear the worst. I can't even fathom going through such a thing.

 

[Doghairrules]

I don’t think I had heard of VSCO before today. I just looked my son up. No account. But I found an account for his 18 year old girlfriend, and she has some very similar pictures to Mollie’s posted. Also, I bet my son’s girlfriend’s mom does not know about this account. My guess is that Mollie’s parents didn’t know either. Is LE keeping accounts like this active to track possible suspects who might “follow” her? Because if my daughter was missing and I knew how many were googling her name and SM accounts, I would want these posts removed.

I just looked up my nieces, who are roughly mollie’s age and neither of them have an account. That may be because one of them is a college athlete and she already gets cyber stalked by creeps.

 

[Momma2cam]

No, it is not common. That's why the FBI got involved, that's why it's in the news -- because it's unusual. People are rarely abducted or killed by complete strangers. When a person is killed or abducted by a stranger, when there's not a robbery or altercation involved, it's unusual and attracts media attention. The media attention might make it seem that crimes committed by strangers are common, but the reality is that such killings or rapes are very rare.

It is common in the context of missing persons cases. We do not know if Molly was abducted by a stranger, someone she knows, or even abducted at all. I think what PP was highlighting is that if you follow cases here or elsewhere, you will see this is more the norm than not. The FBI gets involved in the majority of (at least publicized) missing persons cases as well. JMO.

 

[NewYork625]

First time posting. I have been following along and following the case closely. I try to leave any emotion out of my thoughts and just think logically. I personally disagree with a lot of the theories here, sex trafficing, random abduction, etc. What I believe RT thinks actually happened is exactly what I have thought all along, most of which I am not allowed to post because of the people I believe may have been involved. I am extremely curious about WC, but not about he himself. He seems like a great target to be framed.

After considering all angles, I am leaning in the same direction.

 

[runfar262]

I don’t know her situation, but I discovered I had exercise-induced asthma when I took up running one summer and it makes breathing difficult, but has never gone into a full-blown asthma attack. So if you asked me if I had asthma, I’d say no—because to me, it’s not the same as what someone who truly has asthma as to deal with all the time.

Sometimes running in the cold give me that exercise-induced asthmatic reaction. I carry an inhaler just in case. Only had to use it once in the last several years.

 

[WEL]

@StevenFabianTV - Inside Edition

#MollieTibbetts updates from Iowa. - Wayne Cheney, the one-time pig farmer questioned by authorities in Mollie’s disappearance, refuses to explain why he won’t take a lie detector test (1/2)

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#MollieTibbetts updates, continued. - a former girlfriend of a Wayne Cheney describes him as “violent and dangerous,” and says he’s been stalking her and her family for years. - plus NEW video of Mollie performing in a school play

Twitter - video interview link.

Video has interview with a former girlfriend of WC.

 

[cody22]

Hello, I have lurked here on the Missy Bevers, Abby & Libby, Fort Worth 3, and all of this Mollie Tibbetts thread. I have been researching the internet with what material is available here, and that has lead me step by step, to now believe Mollie is a kidnap and likely a murder victim..... When and if justice prevails, and Mollie's killer is caught, I predict it will be a young male, from a nearby town, who is known to Mollie and her family, through school activities and possibly some past business dealings with his family. ......It is very likely that WC knows this person and possibly even suspects him but, I believe WC is innocent of Mollie's kidnapping and possible murder...I believe Mollie's caring nature and interest in preventing suicide in others, contributed to her being taken...........I did report my discovered info to the tipline earlier. Hopefully they are already on to this person..... I will not post very often and I hope I have broken no WS rules in this post. If I have , please delete it. .... I enjoy the forum and reading yall's posts and I too hope for a happy ending or justice for Mollie Tibbetts.

 

[jbeth]

I don't think she was concerned at all.

From what the public has been told, the mother texted her and let her know she could come home to get some dinner. That does not mean the family was going to have a sit-down meal. If their family is like most, in the summers when kids are going different directions, you tend to just have dinner available and they get it when they can between meet-ups with friends, getting off work, etc..

Mollie asked her what the food was, and she said brats.

Mollie responded with nothing but an "OK."

Mollie didn't say she'd be there. As far as we know, no time to eat was identified. I think the "OK" was just an acknowledgement that Mollie knew and understood the invitation and might or might not show up.

This. Anyone with teenagers should know the kids' communication patterns pretty well. IMO "ok" as an acknowledgement wouldn't make me worried if she never showed up for dinner. I can't imagine how the mom would have gotten concerned immediately unless the text read more like "ok be there in 10 minutes" and then she didn't show.

 

[Doghairrules]

I think you mean Joseph Newton Chandler, he had been living with that name for decades but killed himself at home. Lyle was in his early 20s or so.

Oh yes you’re right. Thanks.

ETA: this is how my mind works nowadays: Lyle’s name sounded familiar and the hotel room made me think of The Chandler story, but not the name. So I just merged them. #mybrainonmiddleage

 

[kkdj]

Jmo but just from experience I know breaking up with the BF from home once you are at college is not easy...more so, if he wants to get married and you aren’t thinking that way yet. Who knows what she was thinking...we don’t. But I have not seen anything indicating she did want to break up.

I'm not getting the sense she wanted a breakup either. She was trying to put him at the top of her SM sites. She was staying at his home. He was coming to her college to take her out. This just sounds like a healthy relationship to me.

 

[InvSmith]

JMO but I take the stats and comments about suicide to be ‘awareness raising’ on Mollie’s part and not signs of major depression nor suicidal intent. And the pics seem pretty typical of what I see other teens posting. Regardless though, young women should not be afraid of abduction because they posted pictures of themselves on social media.

I have a question about the polygraph WC said he wasn’t going to consent to: is it common for a person who has not been named as a person of interest to be asked to take a polygraph? I thought the request for a polygraph on the part of LE was pretty serious?

It is a very serious request. #1 they are looking for his answer and #2 at a minimum trying to clear him.