Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #3

[T_mar]

Can someone elaborate on the fitbit? What exactly is going on with it? It was found???

Not found yet

 

[borndem]

Welcome to Websleuths, Portia07 !!​

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

The similarities have not gone unnoticed here. It's not just the same time of year. It is the same day. The latitude and longitude where Ce was taken and Brooklyn Iowa are basically the same. GPS the coordinates of Sierah's home (where she was taken outside) and Brooklyn, Iowa. It is a straight line. It is the most bizarre thing. There are MANY people that feel that Worley had an accomplice. There was unknown DNA on Sierah, and at the barn. Mollie's BF is in construction, so is Josh. They are all the same age also.

OMG! That’s crazy.

 

[justwannahelp]

The similarities have not gone unnoticed here. It's not just the same time of year. It is the same day. The latitude and longitude where Ce was taken and Brooklyn Iowa are basically the same. GPS the coordinates of Sierah's home (where she was taken outside) and Brooklyn, Iowa. It is a straight line. It is the most bizarre thing. There are MANY people that feel that Worley had an accomplice. There was unknown DNA on Sierah, and at the barn. Mollie's BF is in construction, so is Josh. They are all the same age also.

I didn't know about the unknown DNA on Sierra. Interesting bit of info. I recall LE announcing they were going to try and connect other cases to Worley since they found all sorts of things in the barn. Did they ever tie him to any other cases?

 

[Seattle1]

I've not lived in a small town in Iowa, either, but I live in a neighboring agricultural state that shares a border with Iowa, and can tell you that our house is unlocked all day, every day. We lock all doors when we go to bed at night, but not during the day. It's not at all uncommon in small towns to see vehicles sitting in grocery store parking lots empty but running while the owner is inside shopping, etc. Everyone knows (or at least recognizes) everyone and they know who their neighbors are and would be aware if someone out of the ordinary was trying to enter a house not their own... or even if a strange vehicle was in the neighborhood.

I was just going to mention the rigs left running, and for sure the keys left in the ignition! It's truly hard to fathom unless you've lived it. Those unlocked doors also provide for one or more loving neighbors to walk inside and clean your house from top to bottom, laundry, etc. while you're keeping vigil at the hospital with a parent at deaths door. You can't put a price on growing up in and around agriculture/ranching communities.

 

[SharonNeedles]

You are right we haven't but law enforcement has stated they are exploring an abduction as a possibility. Do you think Mollie left voluntarily?
Mollie Tibbetts' Fitbit being used in search for her - CNN

Actually yes I do. I haven’t seen one piece of evidence to indicate anything bad happened to her. No evidence, no witnesses, nothing. That’s unheard of.

I can understand the other point of view and I can certainly understand why LE has to consider it statistically more likely with each passing day. But until there’s something I can anchor a theory to, I’ve got nothing.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

I didn't know about the unknown DNA on Sierra. Interesting bit of info. I recall LE announcing they were going to try and connect other cases to Worley since they found all sorts of things in the barn. Did they ever tie him to any other cases?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/people...ohio-college-student-boyfriend-testifies/amp/

Worley has a history of abducting women: In 1990, he pleaded guilty to attacking and abducting a woman who was riding a bike, according to court documents obtained by PEOPLE. He was released on parole in 1993.

During their investigation, police feared Worley was a serial offender. Authorities searched Worley’s property for additional remains but did not turn up any.

 

[borndem]

The drive to work is irrelevant based on the confirmed timeline by the police. Her last known confirmed whereabouts were at 7:45 pm Wednesday night.

Yes, perhaps irrelevant on the morning she was missing but what about every other workday? How did she get to work in the mornings? I know this has been discussed, but I haven't seen any details about it. Did her boyfriend or his brother take her every day? Did she drive herself every day and her bf ride with his brother? Did a friend pick her up? Was it close enuff to walk? I guess LE has covered that, but I would think it was relevant when LE first got involved.

 

[wowitsdark]

I was just going to mention the rigs left running, and for sure the keys left in the ignition! It's truly hard to fathom unless you've lived it. Those unlocked doors also provide for one or more loving neighbors to walk inside and clean your house from top to bottom, laundry, etc. while your keeping vigil at the hospital with a parent at deaths door. You can't put a price on growing up in and around agriculture/ranching communities.

All very true! Other than the years I was in college, I have always lived in small towns (two different ones) and cannot fathom living any other way.

 

[ForensicFiles]

Yes, perhaps irrelevant on the morning she was missing but what about every other workday? How did she get to work in the mornings? I know this has been discussed, but I haven't seen any details about it. Did her boyfriend or his brother take her every day? Did she drive herself every day and her bf ride with his brother? Did a friend pick her up? Was it close enuff to walk? I guess LE has covered that, but I would think it was relevant when LE first got involved.

Definitely not close enough to walk as she worked 15 miles away. Which was discussed in the first thread heavily.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

What time was she supposedly seen jogging again

 

[dub]

Wondering what others think about the age of the perp... older? same age as Mollie?

I think somewhat older but not by a ton. Like 25-35.

 

[Harmony 2]

Actually yes I do. I haven’t seen one piece of evidence to indicate anything bad happened to her. No evidence, no witnesses, nothing. That’s unheard of.

I can understand the other point of view and I can certainly understand why LE has to consider it statistically more likely with each passing day. But until there’s something I can anchor a theory to, I’ve got nothing.

I sincerely hope you are right. We all want Mollie to be found safe. I have been a member here for almost 10 years and it is rare for that to be the case but I have encountered it in the corridors of our forum.

 

[kkdj]

Wondering what others think about the age of the perp... older? same age as Mollie?

I have a tendancy to think older than Mollie. Plus I think it's not the perps first time.

 

[borndem]

Can you imagine owning the hog farm...it’s terrifying I’m sure.
I just can’t believe the sheriff have been so tight lipped about everything and not releasing at least one clue that they have.

Typically, LE doesn't release many clues to the public -- they try to keep some clues secret that only the perpetrator would know so that they can rule out other suspects; also, some things the family doesn't need to know, at least at first; and LE does not want the perpetrator to know how close or how far LE is from closing in on him/her/them.

 

[kkdj]

I was just going to mention the rigs left running, and for sure the keys left in the ignition! It's truly hard to fathom unless you've lived it. Those unlocked doors also provide for one or more loving neighbors to walk inside and clean your house from top to bottom, laundry, etc. while you're keeping vigil at the hospital with a parent at deaths door. You can't put a price on growing up in and around agriculture/ranching communities.

I used to own a rental in a small country town. A perspective tenant wanted to show it to his mom later in the day. I told him I would just leave it unlocked for him to show her. That's all he needed to hear.....the safety and trust of a small town.

 

[JayBlue]

I am originally from Poweshiek County so this case has pretty much taken over my Facebook news feed. It's just heartbreaking. I can't get over it. My fear for Mollie. The agony of her parents. A true nightmare. I know there's a lot of agents out there and I hope to God they have a strong lead. I'm not feeling super confident though...

 

[kkdj]

All very true! Other than the years I was in college, I have always lived in small towns (two different ones) and cannot fathom living any other way.

I live in a city now. I keep my doors locked thru out the day.

 

[justwannahelp]

Actually yes I do. I haven’t seen one piece of evidence to indicate anything bad happened to her. No evidence, no witnesses, nothing. That’s unheard of.

I can understand the other point of view and I can certainly understand why LE has to consider it statistically more likely with each passing day. But until there’s something I can anchor a theory to, I’ve got nothing.

I can respect that. I guess after following so many of these cases I've become a pessimist in a way. Sadly, none of the ones I've followed have ended well if the missing person didn't return within a few days. She seems like a responsible happy well adjusted young lady. If she wasn't taken against her will then why would she not have phoned her boyfriend or mother by now?

I did follow a couple of cases that ended up with someone finding the missing person dead from suicide. But there were some signs of depression or mental illness on social media or from family and friend testimonies prior to the body being found. Suicide in this case doesn't seem likely.

I do hope she is found alive, but from the past cases I've followed, I feel like too much time has passed for that possibility. But it absolutely remains a possibility. I held out hope a LONG time for Mickey because there was a long time where all we had was a bike in Whiskey Bay. Many locals thought maybe someone was holding her as a slave or that she was being trafficked. We didn't want to lose hope of her still being alive. But deep down we knew it wasn't likely at all. She wasn't suicidal and she didn't fit the "mold" of those who are trafficked. And she was too old to have been like an Elizabeth Smart or Jaycee Dugard.

 

[ForensicFiles]

Typically, LE doesn't release many clues to the public -- they try to keep some clues secret that only the perpetrator would know so that they can rule out other suspects; also, some things the family doesn't need to know, at least at first; and LE does not want the perpetrator to know how close or how far LE is from closing in on him/her/them.

I’m operating under the assumption that the fbi is 2-3 steps ahead of everyone, easily.