IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

[MsBetsy]

My original post that started all this was me saying basically we should all be more vigilant and look for red flags if someone doesn’t show up when they say they are, I’m paraphrasing my post.

This case hits home with me, I have 3 kids and 2 grandchildren, it’s a learning curve for me to be more alert to what’s going on and not take everything for granted.

My way is not the only or right way and there was no veiled victim blaming but I was pressed to keep explaining why I posted it, after I was accused of victim blaming by someone.

I said it because by her mom stated Mollie was coming for dinner.

I never meant to start this firestorm and in no way am I blaming her family, they couldn’t have done a thing to save her by the time she never showed up for dinner, it was too late.

Ah, yes, I understand your point about being vigilant. I think that some people are very sensitive about defending this family, and are just quick to come to their defense.

 

[TL4S]

Her phone could have been turned off or destroyed; Technology for a Fitbit continues to record heart rate and other data. The Fitbit doesn’t rely on a phone to operate during the day or night. An app called Fitbit Dashboard is on the phone. Fitbit synchs the data to iPads, phones, or computers.

Does the Fitbit store the info until it syncs with the phone or computer? I don't know much about them, but I thought that's what I'd read. If that's the case, LE would have had to have the Fitbit in hand to sync whatever was on it after it was separated from the phone. If the Fitbit and phone remained together until 8:28pm, LE would have been able to see this information through her accounts. Is that how it works?

 

[MsBetsy]

Her phone could have been turned off or destroyed; Technology for a Fitbit continues to record heart rate and other data. The Fitbit doesn’t rely on a phone to operate during the day or night. An app called Fitbit Dashboard is on the phone. Fitbit synchs the data to iPads, phones, or computers.

Ok, so just so I understand, even if the phone was turned off or destroyed, as long as the fit bit was firmly on her wrist, there is still a way LE could have retrieved the information, using another source, like a computer? Like her computer at home?

 

[TL4S]

Ok, so just so I understand, even if the phone was turned off or destroyed, as long as the fit bit was firmly on her wrist, there is still a way LE could have retrieved the information, using another source, like a computer? Like her computer at home?

That's what I'm wondering. From what I've read, the Fitbit will store the information until it syncs with the app. But what I don't know is if Fitbit company can somehow get that information without the Fitbit itself.

 

[kpm]

Ah, yes, I understand your point about being vigilant. I think that some people are very sensitive about defending this family, and are just quick to come to their defense.

My heart breaks for this family and what they are going through.

We all can surely speculate what her mom is thinking and going through and it’s horrific to go over the what if’s, but that’s what we all do in hindsight, it in no way blames them, there is only one person to blame and hopefully put away for life!

Each case we can learn and grow from, that was the point I was trying to make but obviously failed.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

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Its really not that important! Some people prefer to look only at the facts, and not just how a reporter interprets statements in an article. There is no evidence that Mollie ever stated " yes, I will be home for dinner." That's all. I'm not sure why it's so important to you. What exactly is your point and how is it helping to determine what happened in this case? Maybe if you explain your reasoning behind it people will understand. Restating what someone wrote in an article isn't helping anyone to understand what you are trying to get at.

Repeating/quoting MSM articles is fine, imo. To me, it underscores why a poster believes certain things to be true.

If someone else disagrees with an MSM report, or interprets it differently, it’s not logical to imply that the person who believes an acceptable and reliable source has to justify why the article is accurate.

Opinions such as yours are fine, too (obviously), and would ideally be stated as such.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Exactly! We cannot speculate. The way it was reported and worded doesn't always make it so.

But it’s the record we have, and it’s the most reliable and accurate record available to us. I don’t get how it’s speculative to believe the facts as they’re presented to us.

Respectfully, are there definitive, ToS-allowable sources that prove this account to be incorrect? If so, please share them here (and, ideally, in the related media thread) so we can put the issue to rest and clarify the record here. tia

 

[Deleted member 718]

Thank you, I’m looking for earlier reports, all I can find don’t state anything other than for work.

"Mollie Tibbetts couldn’t wait for the weekend. On July 18, the University of Iowa sophomore was at work at the Grinnell Regional Medical Center Unitypoint Day Camp, supervising rambunctious children and mapping out her Friday night. “We were planning a get-together with our co-workers,” Mollie’s pal and fellow camp counselor, Jarrett Rose, tells In Touch. “She was very much looking forward to that.”


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[Al Hoffman]

I never said it was the right way, it’s just how I do it.

And after this incident I will be even more vigilant when I think someone is supposed to be somewhere and doesn’t show up, but that’s how I am.

I don’t tell someone I’ll be over and then never just show up, I know lots of people are like that though.

And I can’t find any article yet that says the dessert was for Friday, only this article, stating it was for work.


Disappearance of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts remains a mystery

Education gives us knowledge, failure and loss gives us wisdom. Unfortunately the lessons for the later are more likely to stick around with us, than lessons from the former.

 

[MsBetsy]

My heart breaks for this family and what they are going through.

We all can surely speculate what her mom is thinking and going through and it’s horrific to go over the what if’s, but that’s what we all do in hindsight, it in no way blames them, there is only one person to blame and hopefully put away for life!

Each case we can learn and grow from, that was the point I was trying to make but obviously failed.

I totally get it. You had no intention to imply it was anyone's fault. I think sometimes we are so sensitive that when anyone even sees something like, "It's too bad Mollies mom didn't call to check in with her," That's all they see and quickly jump in to defend them. (Not saying anyone said those words, just used as an example) That may be why your point was overlooked. No biggie!

 

[kpm]

I totally get it. You had no intention to imply it was anyone's fault. I think sometimes we are so sensitive that when anyone even sees something like, "It's too bad Mollies mom didn't call to check in with her," That's all they see and quickly jump in to defend them. (Not saying anyone said those words, just used as an example) That may be why your point was overlooked. No biggie!

Thank you

 

[glamourkitty1922]

How did Prince Harry meet Meghan Markle?; they didn't socialize in the same circles.

If I remember correctly, Prince Harry socialized with actors and actresses frequently. So, yes, they did socialize in the same circles.

 

[Al Hoffman]

That would definitely explain why it never powered back up. He probably powered it down and left it with her. But I have a weird feeling, he kept something as a kind of momento.

An earbud maybe? CR did say it helped him to remember!

 

[CuriousCricket]

That doesn't mean that Mollie knew the illegal dairy farm laborer who got a girl at her school pregnant.

Actually, a cheerleader at a small high school IS royalty. You're talking a school grades 7-12 with 261 students, or 44.something students per class.

In addition, CR's ex was OLDER than Mollie, which means that Mollie was following her, looking up to her all those years in school. Plus, IM and CR were a couple while Mollie and DJ were a couple with IM and DJ being in the same class. Think prom . . . ball games . . .

It has been my experience that people know more of the people in the older classes than they do in the younger classes. Had IM been a couple of grades back, it's possible Mollie would not have known her -- well, except for the impregnate thing. Small town, small school, even then I think she'd know who CR was.

A. I believe that the LE working this case is intelligent, highly trained and has done a fantastic job.

B. I believe there is absolutely no documentation nor regular connection that links Mollie to CR.

C. I also believe that Mollie knew who CR was --- he dated and impregnated royalty in that little town. I'd recognize Prince Harry if he walked down Main Street in my little town. Doesn't mean I know him, but that I recognize him. Dating IM -- a CHEERLEADER -- might be one reason CR could think someone like Mollie would be interested in him.

There may be nothing on paper connecting Mollie and CR, but it's a tiny town . . . . hamlet . . . village, community.

 

[IowaMom4]

Do people really go to HS football games of a school they didn't attend? I personally never have and I doubt CR would find that very appealing when he knows nobody, isn't part of the school community, and has a cultural difference. Importance on the word cultural difference. That really effects how comfortable/uncomfortable someone is in certain situations.

Absolutely they do. Around here, in small town Iowa, the football game is THE social event of the weekend. This is a SMALL, small town. Even if he didn't attend that school, he almost certainly would know and be friends with folks who did. (like his girlfriend /ex) It would definitely not be surprising to me to discoverhhe attended local games. Some community organization will often host a dinner before the game as a fund raiser that all kinds of people attend. CR may have a friend whose brother plays on the team, or a friend whose sisteris a cheerleader. The friend goes to the game and CR goes as well. Or a group of fellas may just go to hang out at the game. It happens weekly around here, all Fall long...

 

[Deleted member 718]

Maybe his finger prints were on her phone.

 

[SteveP]

<modsnip> from what we have come to learn of Mollie, she definitely did not seem racist or snobbish in any way. Instead of asking why Mollie would ever know an immigrant farm worker, I think we could just as easily ask, why wouldn't she? They co-existed in the same small physical area for several years, so it seems likely, at least to me, that they would have encountered each other by happenstance on occasion, if not by plan. And I don't get that Mollie would automatically assume an evil ulterior motive and shun a hello or smile from someone, just because they don't look exactly like her. JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

That's what I'm wondering. From what I've read, the Fitbit will store the information until it syncs with the app. But what I don't know is if Fitbit company can somehow get that information without the Fitbit itself.

Yes, that's important. Hopefully someone can clear this up, Maybe Kayla has answered it somewhere... I'm searching...

 

[AnnaGrace]

I'm in southern Virginia and I think we're ahead of the Midwest in harvesting field corn. Yesterday I saw the first loads of freshly chopped silage go by and I thought of Mollie and how good it is that her remains were found before harvest. I live about five miles from any corn fields but have to pass through them from time to time. I always think of Mollie and did even before she was found. To me they give an ery, heavy feeling when I drive through especially when they're on both sides of the road.

 

[claire_parker]

The dessert ingredients were for a party on Friday, not the next day. The next day, Thursday, Mollie was scheduled to be on a field trip to a county? fair with the daycare kids. As for the dinner arrangements, we have discussed that a bunch on here and it was mainly concluded that dinner was always and only a possibility, that she often didn't turn up for dinner. Kind of an open-ended invitation. I see your point too though, as I constantly want to know my (grown) children are ok, that they made it safely to wherever they're going. etc.

yes dinner was an open invitation. it is only relevant if she intended to go and we don't know that for sure