IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #42

[otto]

I don’t get the impression that RT was close at all. It seemed like he was hopeful that someone familiar to her had a romantic interest, and made a move that ended up putting him over his head. RT was hoping that this person was holding her, and that Mollie was alive.

In reality, Mollie encountered a sexually motivated fiend who attacked and killed her. RT’s threory was based on hope, as the scenario he put forth, was one of the only ones in which Mollie was still alive.

He was very hopeful that Mollie was still alive, but realistically most people knew that wasn't likely.

 

[otto]

Agree. Sometimes a predator will hunt closer to home when comfortable.

I was reading about sexual predators earlier today and apparently the longer they abduct and kill, the closer it is to home. I think that is in the same link as the abduction / murder risk avoidance flow chart.

" For example, in a recent study on 54 US serial killers (Godwin & Canter, 1997) found that the mean distance from the offenders’ home bases to the victims’ abduction sites was 1.46 miles and 5.0 miles for the body dump locations. The study also found that serial killers progressively travelled closer to their homes as they targeted more victims."​

http://investigativepsych.com/Victim Target Networks Dr Godwin.pdf

 

[TL4S]

I was reading about sexual predators earlier today and apparently the longer they abduct and kill, the closer it is to home. I think that is in the same link as the abduction / murder risk avoidance flow chart.

It's a terrifying thought - someone getting more and more comfortable abducting and killing another person. You know, many, many people work at farms and see the circle of life on a regular basis, but I wonder if that helps desensitize someone who is already carrying the tendency.

 

[MassGuy]

I was reading about sexual predators earlier today and apparently the longer they abduct and kill, the closer it is to home. I think that is in the same link as the abduction / murder risk avoidance flow chart.

It makes sense. I’m very interested in learning about his access to transportation. If he had a reliable car, and frequent access to it, the potential for more victims would increase dramatically.

 

[kpm]

I don’t get the impression that RT was close at all. It seemed like he was hopeful that someone familiar to her had a romantic interest, and made a move that ended up putting him over his head. RT was hoping that this person was holding her, and that Mollie was alive.

In reality, Mollie encountered a sexually motivated fiend who attacked and killed her. RT’s theory was based on hope, as the scenario he put forth, was one of the only ones in which Mollie was still living.

I was so sure RT and LE had evidence that she was still alive, that they were trying to smoke him out.

 

[Considering]

So he drove around the block multiple times in broad daylight in a town where people know him and will recognize his vehicle because that’s all part of his stealthy plan to snatch a girl out in the open? He must really suck at planning.

Maybe the fact that people in Brooklyn knew him and recognized his vehicle kept people from consiously noting his presence that afternoon. If he drove in that area often, people probably thought nothing of it. I pay no attention to my neighbors' cars driving past. I couldn't tell who drove by today or yesterday and not many people drive by my house. If it was a odd vehicle that I had never seen or if something unusual about the driver caught my attention, I might remember something about it later. Cars and people that are familiar and seen often by me would not be out of place and it's unlikely that I could tell you if or when I saw them on a specific day. I think no one in Brooklyn thought anything unusual about the presence of him and his vehicle and that provided him cover that afternoon. When she got to a place where she was not visible to others, he took her and left the immediate area with no one the wiser.

 

[Bravo]

I don't think it has been stated exactly where he has lived in all the years he spent in the U.S. if so I missed it.

 

[MsBetsy]

Some say every word CR has stated is a lie, so maybe this is one, too. Not MOO, just throwing it out there.

Maybe, but what good would it possibly do to admit to police that he had seen her jogging before? I don't see how that could benefit him. Unless he figured since they knew they had the video they would know, and it would fit in with him only revealing what he thought they knew and not revealing anything else.? Beats me

 

[SteveP]

I don't think it has been stated exactly where he has lived in all the years he spent in the U.S. if so I missed it.

Other than stating that he has lived in the US for 4-7 years, perhaps as many as 8, all that anyone has reported, AFAIK, is that he apparently has been living in the Brooklyn area and working at the dairy farm for about 4 years. It seems we have 3 or 4 years that he was in the states that have not been accounted for, although LE may have that information now. JMO

 

[Deleted member 718]

I don't think it has been stated exactly where he has lived in all the years he spent in the U.S. if so I missed it.

All I've read is he worked on different dairy farms prior to Larrabees'.

 

[Bravo]

Thanks^ I'm sure LE is looking at possible other crimes. I don't think this is his first but it may be his first kill. IMO

 

[MassGuy]

Other than stating that he had lived in the US for 4-7 years, perhaps as many as 8, all that anyone has reported, AFAIK, is that he apparently has been living in the Brooklyn area and working at the dairy farm for about 4 years. It seems we have 3 or 4 years that he was in the states that have not been accounted for, although LE may have that information now. JMO

I think it’s likely that he spent most or all of his time in the Brooklyn area. He had family there after all.

 

[pamelado2]

You're saying a guy hunts down a woman, abducts her, kills her is a nice person? No, neither of those things (CR or CW) are nice people. They may fool some people, just like the BTK killer, Dahmer, etc etc down to probably Jack the Ripper had people who thought of them as "nice".

Are you purposely being obtuse? I think you need to reread my post because I certainly never said anything about a killer being nice.

I think it's sad that you don't think people can change. It makes the world very black and white.

 

[kpm]

Maybe, but what good would it possibly do to admit to police that he had seen her jogging before? I dont see how that could benefit him.

LE may have said we have you on video other times she was running and he admitted to seeing her before that day?

 

[1&2&3]

I may have missed it or it has never been said.

It appeared the farm owner did not check the video on his property showing the suspect and the car for weeks after the abduction. Is this correct?

If so, why did he not look earlier when police were asking people to walk their properties and check cameras?

 

[otto]

I think it’s likely that he spent most or all of his time in the Brooklyn area. He had family there after all.

IIRC, when he arrived in the USA 7-8 years ago he moved in with his aunt and uncle. At some point the couple lived in another small Iowa town North of Brooklyn, but I don't know if the suspect lived with them at the time.

 

[kpm]

I think it’s likely that he spent most or all of his time in the Brooklyn area. He had family there after all.

I think he has family in Tama and one other place in Iowa I can’t recall

 

[JenniD]

I don’t think it’s fair to call her dad an absentee parent. She seems to have spent a lot of time visiting him, was his “best man” in his recent wedding, and had up to 3 hour conversations with him fairly often (weekly?). As for her mom’s influence, the way Mollie presented herself speaks volumes about the way she was raised. Jmo.

I think it’s likely that he spent most or all of his time in the Brooklyn area. He had family there after all.

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[SteveP]

I may have missed it or it has never been said.

It appeared the farm owner did not check the video on his property showing the suspect and the car for weeks after the abduction. Is this correct?

If so, why did he not look earlier when police were asking people to walk their properties and check cameras?

I assume you are referring to the farm owner of the cornfield where Mollie was found. If so, we have heard nothing to indicate that the owner had a cam or anything on video. And if you are referring to the farm owner where CR worked, why would he need to look at a cam to see CR and a car, and what would he glean from that? I believe the only video that has been shown relevant in this case is from a homeowner along her jogging route. JMO

 

[otto]

I think he has family in Tama and one other place in Iowa I can’t recall

It was reported in the news that he has facebook contacts in Tama and Marshalltown.