IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #43

[kpm]

Was Mollie found clothed?

Per the arrest warrant

...the clothing found at the scene where the body was located....


http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/082118+DCI+Arrest.pdf

 

[otto]

Was Mollie found clothed?

Based on "clothing found at the scene", Mollie was identified.

http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/p...-2018_DCI_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf

It does not say "clothing that Mollie was wearing".

 

[Jeng1810]

Well, we know he was using a fake ID and living a lie...That is a good starting point. But I think you meant beyond that. Hopefully, we can learn some things.

Hi my name is John call me Chris! WTF?!?!

 

[kpm]

Hi my name is John call me Chris! WTF?!?!

No words, I’ll get in trouble, lol

Remember the other night people saying he may have just been using a nickname, that’s some nickname!

 

[Crystal Regan]

Social Security doesn't give out birth dates. If someone posing as John Budd were to call SS, they'd ask HIM to verify his birth date not the other way around.

This is a deceased family member of mine. All of this is public on Ancestry. All of the info is correct. Scary, huh?

 

[Confusion]

Hi my name is John call me Chris! WTF?!?!

Maybe he just had everybody call him Bud.

 

[MistyWaters]

Based on "clothing found at the scene", Mollie was identified.

http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/p...-2018_DCI_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf

It does not say "clothing that Mollie was wearing".

After that many weeks, would it be appropriate to state her body was clothed? I’m thinking not.

 

[kpm]

This is a deceased family member of mine. All of this is public on Ancestry. All of the info is correct. Scary, huh?

Scary isn’t it, that’s on all our deceased relatives!

 

[Jaclin]

I'm not quite sure which post you are referring to when you describe it as "ridiculous ", but I'm assuming it was mine since I'm the only one who mentioned the length of his relationship. I would like to clarify. I never said this meant he must have poor " life skills", but since you brought it up, I actually think his life skills are quite impressive. He moved here as a teenager, found a job and successfully obtained the necessary paperwork to fool people and get away for years under this cover as a citizen. I'm sure he picked up plenty of skills along the way. What I did say was that he may have a problem forming and holding a relationship. As I mentioned in the post, he was described as staring at and saying nothing to a girl who said he later messaged her on Facebook in order to speak to her. I'm not sure that just staring and saying nothing is an effective way to get a date. You mentioned high school dating, which I did not but I think it is perfectly normal not to date at all in high school. And yes, many people do not have a serious relationship until they are in their twenties, that is true. I simply said he MAY have trouble connecting to people. So please don't misinterpret and incorrectly change someone's post to have a different meaning, then call it ridiculous and laugh at what you think it suggests! If what you said in your post was true it would appear the poster is pretty narrow minded. Jmo

well, I'm the quiet one who just sortof admires from a distance, though I can be brave over e-mail. For me, it's an intimacy issue probably due to growing up in a dysfunctional family. For me, him being called quiet, him not greeting people, him staring and being too bashful to say anything in person just comes across as very shy/asocial. What is strange and what I don't know what to make of is that some girls have come out and said that he also followed them and flirted with them making them uncomfortable. That's the part that doesn't seem shy or insecure at all. It makes me think drugs or bi-polar or split personality.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Hi my name is John call me Chris! WTF?!?!

That cracked me up!

One of the recent articles said the people in town knew him by his real name and the farm folks called him by his fake name. I wonder what his thinking was on that? I suppose ICE raids were the deciding factor in using the fake one of the farm but why not use that one in town, too?

 

[Gardenista]

That cracked me up!

One of the recent articles said the people in town knew him by his real name and the farm folks called him by his fake name. I wonder what his thinking was on that? I suppose ICE raids were the deciding factor in using the fake one of the farm but why not use that one in town, too?

I'd bet everything I have that this is the rule, not the exception, for the workers.

 

[Followfacts]

Wonder if Mollie knew his name or had any idea who or what he was called?

 

[Jaclin]

I looked at that picture this morning and to me it does not look like CR. Look at the ears, they are different.

I think it could be a different CR and there was just a sloppy journalist.

 

[MsBetsy]

That cracked me up!

One of the recent articles said the people in town knew him by his real name and the farm folks called him by his fake name. I wonder what his thinking was on that? I suppose ICE raids were the deciding factor in using the fake one of the farm but why not use that one in town, too?

If that's the case then I don't see how anybody wouldn't know his real name, including the employer.

 

[SteveP]

Wonder if Mollie knew his name or had any idea who or what he was called?

If she knew his name as anything, I would think it was as whatever name IM knew him as, and I am guessing IM knew he wasn't John Budd. Since they were FB friends, surely at some point IM had posted something about him. JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

That cracked me up!

One of the recent articles said the people in town knew him by his real name and the farm folks called him by his fake name. I wonder what his thinking was on that? I suppose ICE raids were the deciding factor in using the fake one of the farm but why not use that one in town, too?

If that's the case then I don't see how anybody wouldn't know his real name, including the employer.

 

[SteveP]

Wonder if Mollie knew his name or had any idea who or what he was called?

If she knew his name as anything, I would think it was whatever name IM knew him as, and I am guessing she knew he wasn't John Budd. Since they were FB friends, surely at some point IM had posted something about him.

 

[Jaclin]

Probably of no relation to this case, but just out of my own curious fancy, I looked up missing persons in Iowa. From late 2016 to early 2018, three girls went missing in the stretch between Black Hawk County (near Waterloo) and Cedar Rapids. All three were listed as white with brown hair and eyes, 16 years old, 5'1", and between 130-140lbs.

There was another one last August from Marshalltown, white with brown hair and eyes, was 19, 5'4", and 170lbs.

I can't find any more specific information about them, but at least the first three are unnerving in their similarities to each other.

Also these are the same areas of the summer of 2017's rural road sexual assaults.

Missing Persons

not saying CR is involved, but if these are indeed still unsolved, it might pay them to take another look at whatever camera footage they have to see if there are any familiar vehicles.

 

[kpm]

If that's the case then I don't see how anybody wouldn't know his real name, including the employer.

How can they even verify CR is his real name, other than from relatives who claim it is?

 

[Jaclin]

Rather then CR's education records; his medical records if they exist would be far more telling; has he been diagnosed with any mental conditions that could have contributed to his heinous actions on that evening / night?

sometimes not being diagnosed, when you should be, is a bigger problem.

 

[MistyWaters]

Okay, so maybe a lot of John Budds.

"Agriculture wouldn't be possible, because of the amount of immigrant labor needed in the dairy industry, in the hog industry, in the cattle industry," Pruismann said.

The fact is that Iowa's economy depends on its 84,000 immigrant workers — including those here without legal documentation, business and immigration experts say.

It's why some employers don't always take extra steps to check workers' documents, afraid they might discover inconsistencies, said Madeline Cano, who leads Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement’s immigrant rights project.

"They need the work to get done," Cano said, "so they'd rather not know. Don't ask, don't tell."

That uncomfortable truth came into sharp focus this week, after Cristhian Rivera was charged with the first-degree murder of Tibbetts, a University of Iowa student living in her hometown of Brooklyn this summer.

Mollie Tibbetts' death exposes Iowa's reliance on undocumented immigrants

 

[Gardenista]

Okay, so maybe a lot of John Budds.

"Agriculture wouldn't be possible, because of the amount of immigrant labor needed in the dairy industry, in the hog industry, in the cattle industry," Pruismann said.

The fact is that Iowa's economy depends on its 84,000 immigrant workers — including those here without legal documentation, business and immigration experts say.

It's why some employers don't always take extra steps to check workers' documents, afraid they might discover inconsistencies, said Madeline Cano, who leads Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement’s immigrant rights project.

"They need the work to get done," Cano said, "so they'd rather not know. Don't ask, don't tell."

That uncomfortable truth came into sharp focus this week, after Cristhian Rivera was charged with the first-degree murder of Tibbetts, a University of Iowa student living in her hometown of Brooklyn this summer.

Mollie Tibbetts' death exposes Iowa's reliance on undocumented immigrants

This is such BS

 

[Charliegizmo49]

In his arrest warrant it’s noted he doesn’t have one

I don’t recall LE saying it was his car, I may be wrong but I think they said it’s registered to someone else, I think they tracked it back to the owner who told them CR/JB uses it

So he was driving illegally as well

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/082118+DCI+Arrest.pdf

M

I agree. I don’t recall anything about a license but I do remember that the investigator said the car was not registered to him.

I’ll bet the investigators make a trip to his hometown in Mexico and begin there. It’s going to be easier than to backtrack. Imo.

For all that’s known now CBR May have had several identities.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Was Mollie found clothed?

Never made clear by LE