Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #48

[wary]

Have they linked up their questions about the guns that the Jack brothers owned? And why did the judge allow them to go off on that sort of a tangent, if guns didn’t figure as part of the case?

 

[skyedaze]

I think that was his cousin, who bought his car for him, on her credit, and he paid it off.

I thought she got stuck with the remaining payments?

 

[Seattle1]

I thought she got stuck with the remaining payments?

She did -- testified that she didn't satisfy the loan until 2020. And I don't even know if she had use of the vehicle or if it was still in custody.

 

[mickey2942]

@JudgeJoe the entitlement mentality starts with ignoring legal immigration laws of the United States, moving onto using false/fraudulent documents to obtain employment, and using a false name to continue to perpetuate the fraud. Having a cousin purchase a car, and driving the car without legal documents. The slippery slope to expecting a young woman to accommodate demands for attention, equals that CBR has demonstrated zero respect for any laws in the United States, what is breaking a few more? Assaulting and killing a young woman?

 

[skyedaze]

She did -- testified that she didn't satisfy the loan until 2020. And I don't even know if she had use of the vehicle or if it was still in custody.

TY!
Yuk who would want it?
yuk

 

[Seattle1]

During the expert's testimony today - I caught that they think Mollie was killed in the trunk. This makes sense to me in that it's a contained, small space, the right height for CBR to have good leverage and strike Mollie with fatal blows. If not already deceased, I think Mollie was unconscious when they reached the cornfield and CBR carried/dragged her to the corn. Mollie had no fight left in her at that time. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

TY!
Yuk who would want it?
yuk

Somebody with an affinity for chrome handles and mirrors...

 

[katydid23]

I thought she got stuck with the remaining payments?

Oh, you are right. And the defense was making such a big deal about what a good boy he was--working so hard on the farm, paying child support and his car payments...oops, guess not.

 

[skyedaze]

ok so another question...why was the Mr defense trying to make a big deal about the $200?

 

[JudgeJoe]

During the expert's testimony today - I caught that they think Mollie was killed in the trunk. This makes sense to me in that it's a contained, small space, the right height for CBR to have good leverage and strike Mollie with fatal blows. If not already deceased, I think Mollie was unconscious when they reached the cornfield and CBR carried/dragged her to the corn. Mollie had no fight left in her at that time. MOO

Who/what part of testimony referenced her being killed in the trunk? I didn’t catch that. With injuries on her right & left side as well as back & front, I imagined it happening in stages. And probably at abduction site, then field. Jmo

 

[katydid23]

During the expert's testimony today - I caught that they think Mollie was killed in the trunk. This makes sense to me in that it's a contained, small space, the right height for CBR to have good leverage and strike Mollie with fatal blows. If not already deceased, I think Mollie was unconscious when they reached the cornfield and CBR carried/dragged her to the corn. Mollie had no fight left in her at that time. MOO

That makes sense---except for the blood issue. Its really hard to understand why there isn't evidence of more blood. I suppose maybe there was a tarp or blanket? Or he was able to clean most of it? But I'd think luminal would pick top a bigger pattern, even if it was cleaned up well.

 

[mickey2942]

Oh, you are right. And the defense was making such a big deal about what a good boy he was--working so hard on the farm, paying child support and his car payments...oops, guess not.

I would like to see if CBR paid any income tax on his earnings since he has been in the United States. Oh, yeah...has he registered for Selective Service? Every man living in the United States between the ages of 18 and 26 must register for Selective Service.
Selective Service System - It’s Your Country. Protect it.

Just how "law abiding" is CBR?

 

[Seattle1]

ok so another question...why was the Mr defense trying to make a big deal about the $200?

The good news is that DJ "didn't recall" and frustrated Mr. Frese who had to let it go-- leaving the jury just as confused as we were!

 

[katydid23]

ok so another question...why was the Mr defense trying to make a big deal about the $200?

I guess we will hear more about it maybe?

I thought he was trying to say DJ was being inconsistent with his stories---one time saying Mollie was buying a mattress, then saying it was for his golf tournament fees.
?

 

[Seattle1]

That makes sense---except for the blood issue. Its really hard to understand why there isn't evidence of more blood. I suppose maybe there was a tarp or blanket? Or he was able to clean most of it? But I'd think luminal would pick top a bigger pattern, even if it was cleaned up well.

I think there probably was a large luminol showing that didn't translate well in the exhibits because of the dark trunk felt.

I really don't recall hearing anything about the estimated volume of blood inside the trunk space which I assumed was protected/covered -- protecting the chrome goods.

 

[JudgeJoe]

ok so another question...why was the Mr defense trying to make a big deal about the $200?

Something to do with DJ thinking it was one thing, but Mollie instead purchasing a mattress with it? I believe defense was trying to strengthen their assertion that the two were having problems & Mollie was planning to move in with friends instead of him. That’s the only thing I can imagine they could do with it- based on what was stated & earlier direction of questioning. All conjecture- no true clue as defense has been all over the map…

 

[Seattle1]

How convenient that the defense waited until today to accuse investigators of suggesting they put forth the "passed-out" theory to CBR instead of when Officer Romero testified and could refute this erroneous claim by the defense.

 

[TL4S]

I think there probably was a large luminol showing that didn't translate well in the exhibits because of the dark trunk felt.

I really don't recall hearing anything about the estimated volume of blood inside the trunk space which I assumed was protected/covered -- protecting the chrome goods.

The expert also said she was likely injured when she went into the trunk, didn't he? During his testimony about blood on the license plate holder? I wonder if CBR hurt her on the road, tried to put her in the trunk, but she fought him, so he killed her in his anger. Or she was injured but alive in the trunk and when he got to the cornfield, but she fought him when he opened it up. That might account for less blood in the trunk.

I wonder if she injured him at all?

 

[Spartygirl]

OT: Whoa! Court TV interupts trial livestreaming to announce Daybell indictment!

YES!!! That was HUGE news today !!!
Thanks for sharing.

 

[Spartygirl]

We have heard, either at trial or otherwise, from plenty of people that conversations with him. Seems he spoke English pretty good.

Yes, I think he speaks English good. For interrogation purposes, LE would of course want an interpreter so he can't later say "I didn't understand." And is entitled to interpreters in court. But there is no doubt that the headphones he is wearing in court is just for show. Its for the "I'm a poor immigrant and I don't understand what is going on" look.

Kind of like the "illegal immigrant " and I don't understand why these ear pods are in my lap and a girl's body in my trunk before I carry her into the cornfield and cover her up , kind of look ""