ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 9

[ansrali]

Sorry if this has already been discussed -- I'm getting caught up. It looks like two guys were booked together today? Has this been discussed?

looks like at least one is a drug violation?

 

[Sunny Day]

While I understand that particular type of knife may be readily available on Amazon, and this is just only my opinion, but to me, and again my opinion and speculation only, it would seem like whoever committed the murders was very good at knowing exactly how to quickly, and silently use that knife to very quickly dispatch 4 victims on two different floors before they had any chance to utter even a scream.

 

[chuckyinvestigates]

Sorry if this has already been discussed -- I'm getting caught up. It looks like two guys were booked together today? Has this been discussed?

People are booked for all kinds of reasons. The police still do not have a suspect in custody according to the most recent available information.

 

[elainebenice]

I'm sure LE checked registered sex offenders pretty early on! So, they likely got that angle covered!

It's Olivia Benson's first conversation

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Thanks, I didn't know if they used a communal receptacle or what. I believe street view option on the Zillow shows individual rolling trash cans outside, but may be neighbors or unrelated. MOO.

Yup you're right. I went back and looked and sure enough right there. So there's that. I still think he went into that house before to snoop.

 

[newredtabby]

Correct, but that is how they ready the animal.

What does that have to do with stabbing humans to death?

 

[seageorge]

They do in Moscow. MPD is very often first on any scene because we have an excellent but volunteer FD & EMS.

Thanks for pointing that out. The tiny town I grew up in had paid EMS so it didn't occur to me that they would be volunteers elsewhere.

 

[North_Idaho_Nony]

Agree. I can't figure this out either. I do recall in early reports, the neighbor was quoted saying that one roommate DID say that she heard noises but did nothing, was distraught etc.. It was immediately after the bodies were discovered. I will see if I can find that article.

Source? AFAIK, there has been nothing released about anything the survivors heard/said.

I’ve seen interviews with neighbors, but don’t recall any of them saying anything about statements by the surviving housemate(s), either.

Thanks!

 

[Sleuthchik7]

Hahaha yes it is so freaking weird! Check it out. This is from the night of the murders. M & K are seen ordering here too.

The Carbonara effect... we'll never reveal our secret ingredient - grubtruckers on Twitch

grubtruckers went live on Twitch. Catch up on their Just Chatting VOD now.

m.twitch.tv

This food truck live streams every single night. Hours of them just serving people food. Primarily to drunk kids on their way home from the bars. People can watch the stream live & there’s a live chat going between the viewers & the guy running the stream. We can’t see the chat now, but the guy will read out what they say sometimes. Viewers can send in money & pay for people’s meals. I’m telling you, it’s weird as hell.

Thank you for enlightening me. This is completely insane! But next time I visit one of these I’ll definitely be on the lookout to score some free grub! Ha!

 

[RetiredEE]

Did someone follow the person who has the dog?

The media is stalking the dog, and the person who now has the dog.

(Only half-joking, this story has generated tremendous interest. Ratings & clicks = $$$. Stringers sell pix to the Daily Mail, NY Post and many other publications. It would be interesting to see how many media personnel are in Idaho for this story.)

 

[Simply Southern]

First time poster, not sure if this is allowed even though I’m not naming names.

Upon doing a quick street view on google maps to take a look around the King Rd neighbourhood, I was curious to check out the house on Walenta Dr that is directly behind the King Rd house. There’s many pictures of the backyard that offer up a clear look at the back of the house and side of 1122.

Upon doing a bit more research on sex offenders that have lived in the area, it’s interesting to note that one in particular lived on the Walenta Dr, at the very house behind 1122.

Could this more than a coincidence?

 

[The OG]

Okay maybe someone can help me out. I've been watching the grub truck video and it appears that the guy in the dark hoodie came with them? But I also noticed there was a girl in a white coat that both of the girls bumped into. I also noticed that when one of the girls went to speak to someone she knew when she came back to the truck she walked thru the group that the girl in white was talking to. After she walked thru the girl in white turned and gave her a look. Is there any footage after this? Is it possible that there was some kind of altercation between the girls and the girl in white after they left the food truck. It is probably nothing, but it kind of stuck out to me.

That's an astute observation. I don't think she gave her a ", I'll cut you!" look, just more like a friendlier "Damn, girl, watch where you're going". They probably know each other. The big jolly guy that was talking to her strikes up a conversation with hoodie guy who was with MM and KG.

 

[Tomagachi]

Here's the thing that makes me curious. The police said they believed the attack to be targeted because of the "totality" of circumstantial evidence. What does that mean?

certainly, one victim having more stab wounds than the others would signify that it was targeted. The key word is "totality". It implies that there were multiple pieces of evidence that signal a targeted attack. Would else would lead them to this theory of a targeted attack?

1. Footage of somebody following the victims

2. Picture of one of the victims, possibly tacked up against the wall that's ripped up.

3. Personal belongings that somehow end up away from where the victims perished. Like a purse or car keys or maybe a ring or jewelry taken off the targeted victim and thrown across the room.

4. Maybe a note left behind

Here's the thing. If it's a stranger that targeted these people and they are on camera whether on foot or by vehicle following the victims, I think the police would have released that footage to the public if they didn't know who it was.
If it's a stranger and the cops could identify him or if it was somebody known to the victims, I think an arrest would have been made right now if some kind of footage was found tied to the murders.

I truly believe, whoever did this lived within several blocks of the murder house. Knew one or more of the victims. Maybe they were invited to a party one time couple months ago and got ghosted since. They probably walked by the house several times to notice partying going on and wondered why they weren't invited. Could be something stupid like that. Or maybe it was somebody related to the fraternity house which is half a mile away.

I believe it's somebody in one of those frat houses or somebody that lives in one of the apartment buildings near where the murders occurred.

Agree. I think it is wo. Eone who lives close and walked

Here's the thing that makes me curious. The police said they believed the attack to be targeted because of the "totality" of circumstantial evidence. What does that mean?

certainly, one victim having more stab wounds than the others would signify that it was targeted. The key word is "totality". It implies that there were multiple pieces of evidence that signal a targeted attack. Would else would lead them to this theory of a targeted attack?

1. Footage of somebody following the victims

2. Picture of one of the victims, possibly tacked up against the wall that's ripped up.

3. Personal belongings that somehow end up away from where the victims perished. Like a purse or car keys or maybe a ring or jewelry taken off the targeted victim and thrown across the room.

4. Maybe a note left behind

Here's the thing. If it's a stranger that targeted these people and they are on camera whether on foot or by vehicle following the victims, I think the police would have released that footage to the public if they didn't know who it was.
If it's a stranger and the cops could identify him or if it was somebody known to the victims, I think an arrest would have been made right now if some kind of footage was found tied to the murders.

I truly believe, whoever did this lived within several blocks of the murder house. Knew one or more of the victims. Maybe they were invited to a party one time couple months ago and got ghosted since. They probably walked by the house several times to notice partying going on and wondered why they weren't invited. Could be something stupid like that. Or maybe it was somebody related to the fraternity house which is half a mile away.

I believe it's somebody in one of those frat houses or somebody that lives in one of the apartment buildings near where the murders occurred.

I agree. They live close and walked

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I highly doubt that he left the sheath behind . He seems to have left without bieng on camera , without blood or footprints leading out without waking other roommates and without being found yet . He seems like he was paying attention and wouldn’t make a mistake like leaving the sheath behind .

I also doubt that a sheath was left behind. A knife sheath is usually attached to a belt that a person is wearing. It's purpose is to allow someone to carry the knife without holding on to it with your hand. If the suspect in this case was carrying the knife in his hand he wouldn't need the sheath. If he had the sheath on his belt it wouldn't be left behind.

Of course the killer could have hand carried the knife in it's sheath into the home, pulled it out and discarded the sheath to be found later on by LE but I find that scenario unlikely. JMO.

 

[LolaAngelina]

The media is stalking the dog, and the person who now has the dog.

(Only half-joking, this story has generated tremendous interest. Ratings & clicks = $$$. Stringers sell pix to the Daily Mail, NY Post and many other publications. It would be interesting to see how many media personnel are in Idaho for this story.)

Oh that’s not cool at all. I thought your post was directed to the members here not the media. That’s makes more sense

 

[Leve]

Source? AFAIK, there has been nothing released about anything the survivors heard/said.

I’ve seen interviews with neighbors, but don’t recall any of them saying anything about statements by the surviving housemate(s), either.

Thanks!

Not much help, but I recall it being said by a parent not a neighbor.

 

[Strong1]

That's an astute observation. I don't think she gave her a ", I'll cut you!" look, just more like a friendlier "Damn, girl, watch where you're going". They probably know each other. The big jolly guy that was talking to her strikes up a conversation with hoodie guy who was with MM and KG.

Yeah I'm sure it was nothing, it just kind of stuck out to me.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Agree. I think it is wo. Eone who lives close and walked

I agree. They live close and walked

I'm starting to think it was someone who lived in an apartment behind them. I have no rational wxplanation for my feeling. JMO

I'm starting to think it was a socially awkward guy. Can you imagine wanting to break out of your shell and living behind a party house full of wonderful, happy, beautiful people?

 

[Trino]

Just thinking outside the box... What if the killer went to the wrong room first, killed the wrong sleeping girl. He figured this out, then found his target. Perhaps he made too much noise. EC and X were still awake. EC went to investigate, was killed. X called to EC, and the killer realized he had to kill X to stop a 911 call. This would mean his target was not 4 people.

 

[Sorricharli]

I think that the knife is significant. Everyone in Idaho has a gun, or can get one. Killing with a gun, seems to be very impersonal.

The knife, shows rage. And planning. I have my own theory on this crime. Knives are now the number one method of killing in the UK.

Not familiar with the creative use of a knife, but my dad, back in the day, worked weekends as a butcher at a local meat market - he and my uncles also did a bit of deer hunting each year, thus I’d suggest my dad was fairly knowledgeable about the physical act of butchering. Yet given this, knowing what the act of butchering and rendering entails, I recall always seeing him in bloody butcher smock, his underlying jump suit and boots were pretty beat up and blood stained even given that the sides of beef, pigs, gutted deer, etc were already field dressed… so given his usual blood and gunk-covered work attire, just imagine the hubris involved in the brutal, messy, chaotic and intense physiological and physical moments wherein not just a single person was attacked, subdued and butchered, but 4 such victim… i just cannot understand how there wouldn’t be a broad and overwhelming complex crime scene and that the perpetrator(s) wouldn’t be filthy - covered with the debris and aftermath of the slaughterhouse they created - you’d think someone, somewhere would have noticed such an oddity, or at least the remnants thereof?