ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #27

[white rabbit]

well I finally listened to the IR interviews (part 3 in particular) <modsnip>
IMO he doesn't remember diddly from the entire trip. he basically waits for the reporter to put words in his mouth.

JMO.

 

[neesaki]

well I finally listened to the IR interviews (part 3 in particular) <modsnip>
IMO he doesn't remember diddly from the entire trip. he basically waits for the reporter to put words in his mouth.

JMO.

It seems that way to me too, wonder if his whiskey got spiked with ambien, or maybe it's normal for him to just have a bad memory.

 

[MsMarple]

well I finally listened to the IR interviews (part 3 in particular) <modsnip>
IMO he doesn't remember diddly from the entire trip. he basically waits for the reporter to put words in his mouth.

JMO.

And the reporter did a good job of putting the words in his mouth. I don't know why he kept interrupting and making unhelpful suggestions. Like did they need gas for a generator? Or "Was Jessica holding DeOrr? Was Senior DeOrr holding DeOrr? Because if he was having trouble walking he probably would have to have been carried at some point, right?" IR answers, "Right." Duh.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad IR was comfortable enough with him to grant an interview, and for the most part the reporter asked good questions. But IMO if he had been a tad more patient and let IR finish his thoughts we might have gotten some clearer answers. Or not.

 

[KatieLiz]

WOW...

I believe I am within TOS to post this, if not please delete.

So that video that Klein shared on his Facebook, with the interviewer telling Trina about GGPa's comments about "what's done is done". There is a VERY interesting comment by "K H-F" with replies by a "GW". Things that make you go "hmmm...??!!!!"

Here you go kschultz06082

It's the video with Trina and the "what's done is done" comments from GGP. In the comments below, some interesting stories.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1049059998509917&id=443864945696095&_rdr

I'm GW if anyone wants any clarifications...

GW????

Mickshawn- here is the stream of posts to answer your GW question. Go to that link and watch the video of you haven't (it's good) and then find the comments from the initials I refer to. Once you read the GW comments you'll see who she is here if you have further questions.

Hope this helps!!

 

[Beezneez]

I am troubled by something SB said in the Tricia interview. She asked him if there was a lot of information the general public is just not aware of- he said that people have a general idea of what is going on. That is discouraging. Whatever happened is a tragedy. This little one was obviously surrounded by people who were/are really comfortable with telling whatever lies needed to skip past accountability. The statement by GGP "what's done is done" is chilling. As though the conclusion from everyone in the families is that the baby is gone, what good will it do to hold anyone accountable? Unfortunately there seems to be enough of a protect the herd mentality with these people that everyone is keeping their mouths shut. The parents might be genuinely heartbroken about the loss of their little boy, but their morals aren't anywhere near the point that they would acknowledge any responsibility anywhere. I think Klein is in the best position to get someone to crack. He doesn't have the same constraints that LE has when questioning people or sharing information. Someone is going to have to play real dirty to get on the level with these scum, and the only way to get one to flip is to paint a clear picture that it is going to be directly harmful to them if they don't. These people are self serving and short sighted. They might be tricky, but they are not criminal masterminds. Whatever covering up they have been able to do is a superficial veneer over the truth & I hope Klein is able to hammer through it.

 

[SubtleGrace]

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[KayCherry]

I wonder if they scooped up what was in the fire pit? I think that's a good place to start

NEW INFORMATION, EVIDENCE DISCOVERED IN SEARCH FOR DEORR KUNZ - Updated at 4:01 pm, May 23rd, 2016 By: Nate Eaton

The fire pit comment has stuck with me as well. IR stated he was reprimanded by VDK for throwing stuff in fire I believe, sorry I didn't quote it.
Seems IR says he DID see him there, so between the fishing and the nap - the little one is gone ~~ FBI h-e-l-p

 

[turtlefur]

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[LookingForClues]

Early on, after many of us realized little DeOrr probably had not drowned in the stream or reservoir, a few members wondered if there had been an accident with the campfire. IR's comment about VDK getting after little DeOrr about playing near the fire and throwing things into it has reminded me of that earlier discussion. Did he trip and fall into the fire? That would be a mere accident, no reason to hide it. Did an adult intend to grab him away from the fire, but instead push him in as he perhaps squirmed away? Even if an accident, that wouldn't be quite as easy to explain and might cause people to try and hide what happened. Anything more sinister than that, my mind refuses to go there, though I realize there are evil people in this world and I can't completely rule that out.

Just pondering... :moo:

 

[SubtleGrace]

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I am very sorry, I have no idea. Try clicking on my name and going to my profile to view it.

 

[boston5]

Early on, after many of us realized little DeOrr probably had not drowned in the stream or reservoir, a few members wondered if there had been an accident with the campfire. IR's comment about VDK getting after little DeOrr about playing near the fire and throwing things into it has reminded me of that earlier discussion. Did he trip and fall into the fire? That would be a mere accident, no reason to hide it. Did an adult intend to grab him away from the fire, but instead push him in as he perhaps squirmed away? Even if an accident, that wouldn't be quite as easy to explain and might cause people to try and hide what happened. Anything more sinister than that, my mind refuses to go there, though I realize there are evil people in this world and I can't completely rule that out.

Just pondering... :moo:

Maybe they were under the influence? Yes, this is something that was discussed early on. But that would make sense why they would cover it up. IMO anyways..


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[neesaki]

I am troubled by something SB said in the Tricia interview. She asked him if there was a lot of information the general public is just not aware of- he said that people have a general idea of what is going on. That is discouraging. Whatever happened is a tragedy. This little one was obviously surrounded by people who were/are really comfortable with telling whatever lies needed to skip past accountability. The statement by GGP "what's done is done" is chilling. As though the conclusion from everyone in the families is that the baby is gone, what good will it do to hold anyone accountable? Unfortunately there seems to be enough of a protect the herd mentality with these people that everyone is keeping their mouths shut. The parents might be genuinely heartbroken about the loss of their little boy, but their morals aren't anywhere near the point that they would acknowledge any responsibility anywhere. I think Klein is in the best position to get someone to crack. He doesn't have the same constraints that LE has when questioning people or sharing information. Someone is going to have to play real dirty to get on the level with these scum, and the only way to get one to flip is to paint a clear picture that it is going to be directly harmful to them if they don't. These people are self serving and short sighted. They might be tricky, but they are not criminal masterminds. Whatever covering up they have been able to do is a superficial veneer over the truth & I hope Klein is able to hammer through it.

Excellent post, I am totally on the same page with you. And that, IMO, is Klein's gift toward solving this case. We have some down and dirty criminals here, IMO, and it takes someone who isn't afraid to call them out, no matter what it takes. LE can't do that. So in comes Klein. He can do do what it takes. Thanks for the post, Beezneez.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Maybe they were under the influence? Yes, this is something that was discussed early on. But that would make sense why they would cover it up. IMO anyways..


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Goes along with rumors that were circulating that supposedly came from first responders early on.

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[Roselvr]

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[turtlefur]

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Thank you!!


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[Jo in Calif]

Just a heads up on what qualifys a person to be a verified insider and what does not qualify.
This can be found at the beginning of the site. I'm on my phone and can't link to it, I'm sure someone can do this for me.

 

[Elle*Bee]

Just a heads up on what qualifys a person to be a verified insider and what does not qualify.
This can be found at the beginning of the site. I'm on my phone and can't link to it, I'm sure someone can do this for me.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...n-Process-for-Professional-or-Insider-Posters

 

[jennapuppy]

Goes along with rumors that were circulating that supposedly came from first responders early on.

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If that's the case, maybe Vernal "hauled off down the road" because he realized there were illegal substances he needed to dispose of far from the campsite before first responders arrived.

 

[Mountaingazer]

If that's the case, maybe Vernal "hauled off down the road" because he realized there were illegal substances he needed to dispose of far from the campsite before first responders arrived.

Yep! This has been my theory since very early on.

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[renarde]

New report posted on Klein's FB.