Found Deceased ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #74

[Love Never Fails]

Oh no

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson


An ambulance arrived at the courthouse today for Larry Woodcock. #LoriVallow

Seriously? Oh I pray he is okay. He has been through so much and Lori would laugh to hear that. Ugh.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think they are done. I don't know how much time Lori will get but I would not count on life without parole. She could get as little as 10 years, although I hope she gets longer. She has already served over 3. I don't know what the practice is in Idaho. In some states the default is for sentences to run concurrently so even if she is convicted of everything her sentence may not be that long. Some states also have policies like automatic two for onee time and automatic early release because of prison crowding or expenses. I found the statutes from Idaho but that does not tell you what standard practice is. John Dalton, who brutally murdered his girlfriend only got 20 years. I suspect Lori, being one step removed from the actual crime will get somewhere between 10 and 20 years total. But she will still have to face trial in Arizona let's not forget.

I think Chad will get the death penalty. Idaho now can use a firing squad. I say we let Kay, Larry, and Tammy's brothers form the firing squad. And thee command to shoot? "Loin fire" of course!

She deserves whatever Chad gets.

 

[jash]

I can't stop thinking about the tweet below and what the deleted photo could be about. My first thought was CD or Alex took a photo of Tammy's body to send to Lori but that can't be it (there would a trail).

I also can't shake the feeling that Alex killed Tammy while Chad stood in the corner and watched. I don't think Chad had the "guts" to do it. Even when Lori was whining to him about whether she should be doing something to hurry along the demise of her children (I'm paraphrasing from the tweets yesterday), Chad told her no -- she is doing everything right (by waiting). I'm sure Chad wanted the outcome, but I'm not sure he wanted to physically be the one extinguishing life.

Nate Eaton
@NateNewsNow
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The night Tammy died, her phone is active and playing games at 10:22 p.m. At 11:28 p.m., a jpeg is deleted from her phone. There are then texts between Chad and Lori. At 11:46 p.m., Alex is leaving the LDS Church parking lot near Chad's house.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Closings don’t begin tomorrow?

No. Tomorrow is for judge and attorneys only. Closings on Thursday.

 

[k-mac]

Lori's skills at manipulating and charming are just what is needed in an institutional setting. She really is good at it, and it's tragic how she used them "on the outside." However they are survival skills in institutions like hospitals and prisons.

I think she will be a peer leader incarcerated.

As for people on the outside? It's hard to tell. I think the like-minded are trying to distance themselves from Lori and Chad and will probably find some new false prophets. But the god and goddess themselves will probably think they are in liberty jail.
MOO

I respectfully disagree on Lori power playing in prison.

Let's not forget she is extremely 'entitled", vein, shallow, a serial killer of her own kids, A religious nutter, doesn't touch drugs.....

I suspect she will rub all the wrong people all the WRONG ways.......

 

[KonaHonu]

I respectfully disagree on Lori power playing in prison.

Let's not forget she is extremely 'entitled", vein, shallow, a serial killer of her own kids, A religious nutter, doesn't touch drugs.....

I suspect she will rub all the wrong people all the WRONG ways.......

She can start her own LDS prison gang (LDS = Lori's Delusion Squad)

 

[k-mac]

I can't stop thinking about the tweet below and what the deleted photo could be about. My first thought was CD or Alex took a photo of Tammy's body to send to Lori but that can't be it (there would a trail).

I also can't shake the feeling that Alex killed Tammy while Chad stood in the corner and watched. I don't think Chad had the "guts" to do it. Even when Lori was whining to him about whether she should be doing something to hurry along the demise of her children (I'm paraphrasing from the tweets yesterday), Chad told her no -- she is doing everything right (by waiting). I'm sure Chad wanted the outcome, but I'm not sure he wanted to physically be the one extinguishing life.

yeah it is beyond incriminating Alex being proven to be in the area at the time.

I see him standing in the corner watching too.

He is so disgusting.

 

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5/9/23
WOW WOW WOW!
The defense in the Lori Daybell trial basically said the prosecution did not prove their case so the don't need to present a defense.
Closing arguments on Thursday!
The verdict will be live-streamed!
Get ready for more gag-inducing text messages between Chad and Lori. It's all about "the storm". BLECH!
Brian Laundrie. Remember him? His mom did something really weird. We'll talk about it tonight.

 

[Pipersand]

I am worried. Not because of the testimony which I heard every night. I'm a true believer in her guilt. It's just fear - Casey Anthony. OJ. A jury may see things differently. So hoping the prosecution knocks it out of the ballpark. Would have loved Mr. Meadors to handle the closing. May Rob Woods or Lindsay Blake or Rachel Smith bring their A game. Fingers crossed.

 

[Snoopster]

I've said it too many times already but something has been off with this trial since the beginning. Maybe it's "off" because of the prosecution??

Let's hope they 'bring it home' with their closing. This has been a very complicated case and LVD's connection is circumstantial. They faced a tough challenge to bring all of this talking in 'code' and spiritual baloney into focus that the jurors could read between the lines.

Add to that, that defense doesn't have any case to put forward.

 

[LinasK]

Just an FYI!
Usually I start copy/pasting the summary tweets about 6pm my time - and since it is Taco Tuesday here - I will be going out for dinner! So will be late in posting them....

But did you have Satan tacos???

 

[fred&edna]

Let's hope they 'bring it home' with their closing. This has been a very complicated case and LVD's connection is circumstantial. They faced a tough challenge to bring all of this talking in 'code' and spiritual baloney into focus that the jurors could read between the lines.

Add to that, that defense doesn't have any case to put forward.

I hope they can "bring it home". I agree, it has been a complicated case and tough to explain to a jury. I do wish this small town prosecution team had asked for a bit more help so maybe the pitfalls could have been avoided.

 

[fred&edna]

dbm

 

[fred&edna]

 

[cujenn81]

Right!?

It all reads like some kind of an awkward juvenile romance melodrama mixed with the 'adventures' of a sophomoric D&D role-playing gaming group. One would be forgiven for thinking this is the script for what is clearly someone's childish (though definitely not family friendly!) fantasy movie.

It would all be so laughable if it weren't for the fact that there is no fictional story here - it is all very real and a great many innocent people have been victimized and killed just so the authors could live out their dark, twisted, evil, and perverted fantasies together.

MOO.

You know, I never thought about the D&D angle until the question was asked in court. That sounds right up Chad’s alley. I bet you dollars to donuts that every time Lori asked for someone’s rating, Chad locked himself in his loin lair and pulled out the D&D dice to come up with an answer.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Looks like the prosecution is nearing the last few laps of their excellent presentation of evidence. With that said, hopefully the jury heard each and every word and can fold Lori into a taco, put her in a box and ship her to the worst women's prison Idaho has to offer.

From there, I hope she lives in torment until she breathes her last breath and they take her out in a body bag like poor Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles had to leave. Hopefully she lives to a ripe old age.

This trial for me has been one of the worst, and I've followed plenty.

 

[Alpha_Q]

Haven't posted about this mess in years, but followed the trial via Eaton's tweets. Those poor kids, man. That part of the testimony was a gut wrench, them in the ground like that. That's sticking with those jurors forever. Kinda waited for that Holy Damn moment during the trial but it never materialized. I'm not really hand-wringing about the prosecution, tho. With what they had they did a decent enough job. There ain't no smoking gun, so they gotta put on layers of circumstance and I think the jury's gonna see that. (Sure, there's that strand of gold hair but hair's gonna hair and they got a way of gettin in the weirdest places. I mean, if they said the matching roll of duct tape was found at Alex's place and Lori was never there and Alex was never at her place, then that hair gets all weird, but the time those 2 spent together they might as well have been married and Alex probably had more of her hair on his shirt than did the living room rug.)

I think Vallow's behavior post-murders is enough to get most people.at least leaning toward conviction. Kids go missing and what? Maybe tell someone? Nah. Get the police looking? Nah. Go to Hawaii to get serenaded by a giant toddler strumming on a ukelele? Like, what's the excuse there? She's insane? Defence never went that way. Chad forced her? Defence never went that way, either. There's no doubt Alex did them all, and if it was Alex's idea alone, you'd think the defence might bring it up.

Smart jury will realize, there's gonna be an appeal no matter the what, so get your book-tossing arms ready to throw now. The bar for conviction on a child killer is a lot lower IMO than a straight up murder. One of those, Yeah-she-probably-did it-but-do-we-have enough-to-convict? cases. Like, honey murders her husband, you're thinking, 'she probably did it, but I'm not 100 percent sure she did. I gotta at least be 90 percent sure.' This case? With those kids in the ground where they were and like they were? With kids involved, it's like, I'm 60 percent sure - chain her up! So yeah, IMO the prosecution did an adequate job with the info they were given.

The defence, tho. What kind of defence was that? I think thy're taking a big gamble, here. I'll admit, I'm surprised they didn't try pin the whole sordid tale on that donkey, Chad. For sure they brought it up to her, for sure they said to her, Was him, wasn't it? He and that brother of yours, right? They did it and you're just an innocent, right Lori? Right? But, nope, they didn't go that way and that had to be all Lori. No person born with a head is gonna look at this case and say, 'You know what, maybe she's innocent. Let's plead not guilty.' Nah, the defence is just making sure the prosecution dots their i's and they - the prosecution - they've done that. Well, most of the time.

I've got this feeling that she still thinks she's on some kind of gonzo mission, and that Warrior Chad or Moroni (?) or the Great Whomever is gonna show up and break her bonds and set her up to queen a tent city in the wastes of Idaho. Tan Chad standing next to her, his grown out hair blowing in the wind, his furrowed brow, his white shirt and blue tie. True love, right? She stayed the course for her smooth ol' Chaddy. I guess riding the storm of prison is worth it when you get to ride the sto- yeah, I can't finish that sentence.

Anyway, here's hoping Vallow's role-playing the worst parts of Orange is the New Black when she comes up for breath to watch Chad on a 10 inch CRT television throwing her under the bus to save his pasty cheeks from getting Death-rowed.

 

[k-mac]

Thinking forward to Chads Trial.

Think we will know whether he believes his gooble-deegook he has peddled for so long if he choices to plead out or face the firing squad.

Because a man deeply convicted to his solemn belief of comings again........is not afraid of his own mortality.

oh....And...innocence
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FUN TIMES!! all ahead chaddy

 

[Caylee Advocate]

‘The defense rests’
Pahaha they don’t need a rest they haven’t even worked up a sweat!

Can the jury make an inference on the fact the defense have put on no case or is it the same as the 5th amendment where the jury can’t decide that not testifying makes a defendant look bad?

Because from this angle, it sure looks like they haven’t put on a case because THEY HAVEN’T GOT ONE.

Those texts have her bang to rights and they know it. Complicit in everything and appears to have been the driving force behind JJ and Tylee especially, seems she was eager to be rid of them imo.
I hope the law is explained clearly so that the jury know LV did not need to be present to be guilty of murder.

If not for LV, those beautiful children would still be alive today.

All MOO

They should dock both of those attorney's pay ...like half. Just imagine the billable hours they have/will present. Disgusting. Taxpayers always get the brunt!

 

[mickey2942]

That would be true crimer gold!
with a 24/7 tee-lori cam....FOREVER

When nothing going on we could just check in and see them driving each other to the other side of batty!

Of course, they would just tell each other sob stories about the cruelty that they have been subjected to, and how they are both "innocent", and were set up, completely framed.
Delusional. Check.