Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #56

[LinasK]

Sometimes the church service or the interment are private, but if there's a viewing or a wake - usually no one. Even when there's a state funeral, the public is welcome to file by the casket to pay their respects.

Yes, but even when it's private- I've had family members die too- you don't issue "invitations". You just tell the people that need to be there the details of when and where the service will be.

 

[janewall]

Chad and Lori fly American Airlines to KauaI Dec 1
Tammy’s body is exhumed Dec 11
Alex died Dec 12
Rexburg police announce Dec 20 the children’s disappearance poss linked to Tammy’s death. CD & LVD persons of interest

My question is...do you think amid all this, Lori snuck home from Hawaii for Alex’s funeral? Possibly why it was private?


MOO

It depends on whether they had a funeral, or a memorial service without a body. Alex's autopsy wasn't completed until mid-spring, and she was in jail in Idaho by then. I would think his body wouldn't have been released until the autopsy was complete, but maybe the medical examiner took the samples needed and released his body in time for a winter burial.

Nothing about how the members of the extended Cox family chose to carry out death rituals for anyone would surprise me, after their bizarre (non)reactions to the deaths of Tylee, J.J., Joseph Ryan and Charles.

 

[mickey2942]

Chad and Lori fly American Airlines to KauaI Dec 1
Tammy’s body is exhumed Dec 11
Alex died Dec 12
Rexburg police announce Dec 20 the children’s disappearance poss linked to Tammy’s death. CD & LVD persons of interest

My question is...do you think amid all this, Lori snuck home from Hawaii for Alex’s funeral? Possibly why it was private?

MOO

I doubt that LVD even cared. She probably twirled her hair and batted her eyelashes, in Hawaii.

 

[indicolite22]

In one of the televised specials Zac Cox said that while he was staying with Charles and Lori he came home when Charles was away on business to find the street full of parked cars and the house full of strangers, some of whom gave him looks that caused him to leave. There are pictures of multiple guests in one of the houses and no Charles. I think the big house thing was all Lori and Charles just went along. It's just another one of these hints that there may have been a larger group about which we know nothing somehow associated with Chad and Lori.

BBM. Yeah, the group was called Preparing a people.

 

[Niner]

@Tortoise - love your timeline! I do have a question! okay - 2 questions....

for the 3/10 motion hearing - I have it down for the both of them - since both defense attorneys filed the Motion to Compel - correct?
for the 3/22 motions hearing - dismiss charges, change of venue - I have ONLY CD for that one - correct?

TIA!

 

[Tortoise]

@Tortoise - love your timeline! I do have a question! okay - 2 questions....

for the 3/10 motion hearing - I have it down for the both of them - since both defense attorneys filed the Motion to Compel - correct?
for the 3/22 motions hearing - dismiss charges, change of venue - I have ONLY CD for that one - correct?

TIA!

10th March - This is a new motion to compel and it's the prosecution's motion. To compel CD's attorney JP to give what was requested of him back on 9th December.

This was the 9th December discovery request https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Supplemental Discovery Request.pdf
JP replied on 21st December saying "none"
RW filed an (amended) motion to compel on 25th February saying he wants the name of the witness and their documents or the evidence/testimony should be excluded at the change of venue hearing on 22nd March. https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Amended Motion to Compel.pdf


22nd March - As far as I can work out, the motion to change venue is brought by both LV and CD. But only CD brought a motion to dismiss.

 

[Niner]

@Tortoise - Okay - I shall change some of my notes! Much appreciated - Thanks!

 

[pizzaman12]

Who would exactly be allowed access to TD autopsy? CD I would assume would be one, correct?

 

[K9Enzo]

Who would exactly be allowed access to TD autopsy? CD I would assume would be one, correct?

IMO, I don't think so. LE are the ones that her her exhumed and an autopsy performed for their findings. This autopsy is part of a LE investigation.

 

[Tortoise]

I think if I were CD, and if I knew my wife died of natural causes, I'd pay for my own private autopsy.

The trouble comes when you know it wasn't a natural death, imo.

It's a bit like the McStay murders where the defense paid for their own touch-DNA testing but avoided testing the handle of the murder weapon. Good fodder for the prosecution during the trial. Don't ask a question...unless you already know the answer.

 

[Lusitana]

Who would exactly be allowed access to TD autopsy? CD I would assume would be one, correct?

Under normal circumstances, yes, absolutely.

 

[LinasK]

IMO, I don't think so. LE are the ones that her her exhumed and an autopsy performed for their findings. This autopsy is part of a LE investigation.

Since he's a suspect, I'd tend to agree with you. If they found something, he doesn't get to know until they file more charges against him like murder. Before trial, the prosecution has to turn over all evidence to the defense for discovery so that they can prepare.

 

[JMapes]

Every year on March 1st, the disability community comes together to remember the victims of filicide – people with disabilities killed by their family members.

Remembering JJ today, on this Disability Day of Mourning.

Joshua Vallow – Disability Day of Mourning

 

[BeachSky]

Every year on March 1st, the disability community comes together to remember the victims of filicide – people with disabilities killed by their family members.

Remembering JJ today, on this Disability Day of Mourning.

Joshua Vallow – Disability Day of Mourning

Name: Joshua Jackson “JJ” Vallow.
Died: June 10, 2020 (Body found; last seen September 23, 2019).
Age at death: 7.
Cause of death: Murder.
Location: Rexburg, Idaho, USA.
Disability: Autism.
Details:
JJ’s mother and stepfather killed him and his 17-year-old half-sister, Tylee Ryan. They tried to cover up the children’s deaths by claiming they were home-schooling or that the children were staying with relatives; but their grandparents became worried and asked for a welfare check and the children were declared missing. A storage locker was found, full of the siblings’ possessions. Finally their bodies were found on their stepfather’s property.

 

[Rush4087]

The thing that flabbergasted me about that interaction is that Lori is so out of touch with normal human emotion and conduct, she didn't even try to pretend to be upset about a violent death in her house. Her husband's death, no less. No grief, no hysteria, no aftermath of the fear she would conceivably have felt if Alex' alibi was true and Charles had been out of control that morning. Just a giggly flirty laughing Barbie doll. And the Chandler cops thought that wasn't worth a side-eye?

From the 10/3/20 CBSNews article: "Chilling details revealed as police investigate deaths of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan".

LE's intereaction with LV immediately after she returned from dropping JJ at school and returned to the house where AC had just shot and killed CV:

(A smiling Lori Vallow on police bodycam video after learning her husband was dead)

Police Officer: "How long have you lived here?"

LV: "Like, 3 weeks"

Police Office: "Oh geez, yeah, OK"

LV: "That's why the neighbors don't know us very well"

Police Officer: "Gotcha"

LV: "Like, "hi neighbors, sorry" [Laughs]

Police Officer: "Are you working at all?"

LV: "No"

The nonchalance. The hair flip. The smile. The flirt. The hubris and the narcissism. Witnessing a true sociopath, imo.

She had utter disdain for CV, the neighbors, the cops... for everybody - even for her brother AC as he sat there on the curb like an idiot pretending to rub a tiny bump on his head. To Lori, it was her world and everybody else was just living in it.

And of course CPD... I'm guessing their side of the conversation continued on something like this: Uh... yes ma'am.. sure.. ok.. uhh, geez.. Are you're thirsty? I like those sunglasses.. You bet. Can I get you anything? Sure? Do you want some water? Gotcha

Jmo

 

[Niner]

A couple of questions - if someone can answer them...

snipped...

Name: Joshua Jackson “JJ” Vallow.
Died: June 10, 2020 (Body found; last seen September 23, 2019).
Age at death: 7.

I have that he was found on June 9, 2020 - ??



from this article:

Daybell murder trial expected in July | The Garden Island
March 1, 2021

snipped:

Lori Daybell is now facing conspiracy-of-murder charges in Arizona in the death of her third husband in addition to the charge she is facing in Idaho.

She is - ??

 

[indicolite22]

The nonchalance. The hair flip. The smile. The flirt. The hubris and the narcissism. Witnessing a true sociopath, imo.

Agreed. She was equally as nonchalant at the welfare check. Lying is like breathing to her. Also at her first hearing in Rexburg. Other people's lives don't matter; it's all about her.

 

[kshultz06082]

A couple of questions - if someone can answer them...



I have that he was found on June 9, 2020 - ??



from this article:

Daybell murder trial expected in July | The Garden Island
March 1, 2021

snipped:


She is - ??

JJ was found on the 9th.

And I found that statement weird too because no law enforcement has ever stated that to my knowledge. Jmo

 

[kshultz06082]

A couple of questions - if someone can answer them...



I have that he was found on June 9, 2020 - ??



from this article:

Daybell murder trial expected in July | The Garden Island
March 1, 2021

snipped:


She is - ??

I just went and tried to read that article but couldn't get thru the whole thing because almost every word of it is wrong. From the very first word of the headline even. It says the murder trial is to begin in July.... no murder charges have even been brought yet, nevermind a date being set for a murder trial. I definitely would not look to that media site for factual information. Jmo

 

[Niner]

I just went and tried to read that article but couldn't get thru the whole thing because almost every word of it is wrong. From the very first word of the headline even. It says the murder trial is to begin in July.... no murder charges have even been brought yet, nevermind a date being set for a murder trial. I definitely would not look to that media site for factual information. Jmo

Okay - on that article! I thought I might have missed this AZ murder charge being brought! Glad to know that I didn't.