Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #57

[kshultz06082]

Bet he wishes he was in the Grand Jury meeting instead.

I laughed entirely too hard at that. 1 like was not enough!

 

[Laughing]

How would you be able to tell if there is a grand jury??? Asking for a friend who would really like to know how to figure it out.... I know they are supposed to be super duper secret, but their has to be a paper trail somewhere, right?

Varies from place to place. Paper trail, sure there must be one, but you're not likely to find it.

Pre-COVID, we knew in when the GJ was seated because my office is in the Courthouse. A conference room (sometimes ours!) was blocked on the shared calendar. LE from a variety of agencies would be in the elevators -- lots of LE, sometimes a dozen or more!

But, we never, ever knew what they were doing.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[kshultz06082]

Varies from place to place. Paper trail, sure there must be one, but you're not likely to find it.

Pre-COVID, we knew in when the GJ was seated because my office is in the Courthouse. A conference room (sometimes ours!) was blocked on the shared calendar. LE from a variety of agencies would be in the elevators -- lots of LE, sometimes a dozen or more!

But, we never, ever knew what they were doing.

jmho ymmv lrr

Thank you! That makes alot of sense!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

We won't here anything yet. The Grand Jury are made up of laypersons. Prosecutor puts forward what information he has. It's then up to the Grand Jury to decide if infact an indictment can be issue. No links sorry but I believe grand Juries operate in Ohio the same way.

Anything seen or heard at a Grand Jury hearing, is Private and Secret nobody attending can talk about what went on.

I think we may have to wait a few days to hear their verdict, not 100% sure on that but.

Did you know that the UK got rid of Grand Juries in 1933? Again no link so we can make this one JMO

Information posted in the last thread was that The United States and Liberia are the only places that currently have grand juries. Something that confused me was that they said it would be lasting for a short period of time. I thought the grand juries could issue subpoenas and are also investigative so how could they end so soon when jurors might want to subpoena someone or to get some information they would have to wait for?

 

[Niner]

Since "they" said it was thru 5/20 - I will keep posting this....

Wednesday, May 19th:
*Grand Jury Convenes (Day 3) (for Joshua, Tylee & Tammy) (@ am MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2019 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) – *Chad Guy Daybell (51/now 52) arrested & charged (6/9/20) & arraigned (8/21/20) with 2 felony counts of destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence & concealing remains. Plead not guilty. $1M bond. Fremont County
*Charged (7/1/20) & arraigned (8/21/20) with 2 felony counts of conspiracy to commit concealment, destruction or alteration of evidence. Plead not guilty. Bond stays at $1M. Fremont County. Investigating death of Tamara Michelle Douglas Daybell (49) (5/4/70-10/19/19).
Trial was set to begin 7/12/21 has been vacated. No further dates yet.
Grand Jury convened from May 17 to May 20 re JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan & Tammy Daybell.
Court info from 6/10/20 thru 5/7/21 reference post #702 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #57
5/11/21 Update: The Committee to Protect Journalists today expressed concern over a subpoena ordering an Idaho reporter to testify in court, and called on the state’s judiciary not to enforce such an order. Attorneys should refrain from subpoenaing journalists, and U.S. courts should not grant such orders, which imperil reporters’ abilities to do their jobs,” said CPJ Program Director Carlos Martinez de la Serna, in New York. “EastIdahoNews.com reporter Nate Eaton belongs in the courtroom’s press box and not on the witness stand.” Yesterday, Nate Eaton, the news director at the local website EastIdahoNews.com, posted on Twitter an image of a subpoena ordering him to appear in a local county court on June 9 to give witness testimony in a conspiracy case he has covered extensively, relating to the deaths of two children. John Prior, an attorney representing the defendants in the case, filed the subpoena and the county’s deputy clerk signed it, according to the document on the website of the Idaho judiciary. 5/11/21: Disclosure of expert witness & lay witnesses filed by John Prior. Here:
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Disclosure%20of%20Expert%20and%20Lay%20Witnesses.pdf Motion hearing on 6/9/21.
5/17/21 Update: No info yet. Grand jury day 1 continues on 5/18/21. 5/18/21 Update: No info yet. Grand jury day 2 continues on 5/19/21.
*Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell (46/now 47) arrested (in Kauai, Hawaii) on 2/20/20 & charged (6/30/20) & arraigned (9/20/20) with 2 counts of conspiracy to commit destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence. Bond was set at $5M & reduced to $1M. Fremont County
Trial was set to begin on 7/12/21 has been vacated. No further dates yet.
Grand Jury convened from May 17 to May 20 re JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan & Tammy Daybell.
Court info from 3/5/20 thru 5/7/21 reference post #373 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #57
5/7/21: Order by Judge: to close hearings & seal record. Response to request for discovery by State: Vallow's 4th supplemental discovery disclosure. 5/11/21: Disclosure of expert witness & lay witnesses filed by John Prior. Here:
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Disclosure of Expert and Lay Witnesses.pdf Motions hearing on 6/9/21.
5/17/21 Update: No info yet. Grand jury day 1 continues on 5/18/21. 5/18/21 Update: Grand jury day 2 on 5/19/21.
*Madison County: Pretrial conference hearing on 8/17/21 & trial set to begin on 8/30/21 (thru 9/3/21 @ 9am).

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM is at the women’s detention center today.

*Not sure about the courthouse in St Anthony because I’m not sure if we’re needing to go to St Anthony today

 

[Teche]

Local update: MM is at the women’s detention center today.

*Not sure about the courthouse in St Anthony because I’m not sure if we’re needing to go to St Anthony today

He must be writing a book on his iPad.

 

[StrangerThanFiction]

He must be writing a book on his iPad.

Double-spaced, cuz, you know, he can only read documents that way. JMO.

 

[887sMtreme]

Varies from place to place. Paper trail, sure there must be one, but you're not likely to find it.

Pre-COVID, we knew in when the GJ was seated because my office is in the Courthouse. A conference room (sometimes ours!) was blocked on the shared calendar. LE from a variety of agencies would be in the elevators -- lots of LE, sometimes a dozen or more!

But, we never, ever knew what they were doing.

jmho ymmv lrr

That must have been so intriguing! Did you ever piece together what was going on, based on related trials or press coverage?

 

[altojack]

Information posted in the last thread was that The United States and Liberia are the only places that currently have grand juries. Something that confused me was that they said it would be lasting for a short period of time. I thought the grand juries could issue subpoenas and are also investigative so how could they end so soon when jurors might want to subpoena someone or to get some information they would have to wait for?

Dixie I'm sorry I can't answer your last question.

 

[altojack]

That must have been so intriguing! Did you ever piece together what was going on, based on related trials or press coverage?

You won't find press coverage, they aren't in attendance and would not be permitted to report a dot. Grand Jury's are held in Secret. The outside world is not told what's going on because it is a secret.

 

[Laughing]

That must have been so intriguing! Did you ever piece together what was going on, based on related trials or press coverage?

From the Grand Jury? Nope. Had a close friend and a fellow church member on the same Grand Jury once. Learned just a bit about some of their cases after the fact -- trials over, specifically. Each one said that there are things about our area that they wish they did not know!

However, it is hypothetically possible that a person's office might have a common wall with one of the Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys, and it is hypothetically possible that if one of the Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys was rather loud, and/or had rather loud speakers visit their office, one might hear intriguing information through that drywall. Hypothetically.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[887sMtreme]

You won't find press coverage, they aren't in attendance and would not be permitted to report a dot. Grand Jury's are held in Secret. The outside world is not told what's going on because it is a secret.

Oh well, of course. But after the fact, during and after a related trial, there can be speculation in print. That’s what I was referring to.

 

[887sMtreme]

Snipped for brevity

However, it is hypothetically possible that a person's office might have a common wall with one of the Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys, and it is hypothetically possible that if one of the Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys was rather loud, and/or had rather loud speakers visit their office, one might hear intriguing information through that drywall. Hypothetically.

jmho ymmv lrr

Purely hypothetically, mind you.

 

[Niner]

Since the Grand Jury is going thru 5/20 - I shall go ahead & post this for today.

Thursday, May 20th:
*Grand Jury Convenes (Day 4-last day) (for Joshua, Tylee & Tammy) (@ am MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2019 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) – *Chad Guy Daybell (51/now 52) arrested & charged (6/9/20) & arraigned (8/21/20) with 2 felony counts of destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence & concealing remains. Plead not guilty. $1M bond. Fremont County
*Charged (7/1/20) & arraigned (8/21/20) with 2 felony counts of conspiracy to commit concealment, destruction or alteration of evidence. Plead not guilty. Bond stays at $1M. Fremont County. Investigating death of Tamara Michelle Douglas Daybell (49) (5/4/70-10/19/19).
Trial was set to begin 7/12/21 has been vacated. No further dates yet.
Grand Jury convened from May 17 to May 20 re JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan & Tammy Daybell.
Court info from 6/10/20 thru 5/7/21 reference post #702 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #57
5/11/21 Update: The Committee to Protect Journalists today expressed concern over a subpoena ordering an Idaho reporter to testify in court, and called on the state’s judiciary not to enforce such an order. Attorneys should refrain from subpoenaing journalists, and U.S. courts should not grant such orders, which imperil reporters’ abilities to do their jobs,” said CPJ Program Director Carlos Martinez de la Serna, in New York. “EastIdahoNews.com reporter Nate Eaton belongs in the courtroom’s press box and not on the witness stand.” Yesterday, Nate Eaton, the news director at the local website EastIdahoNews.com, posted on Twitter an image of a subpoena ordering him to appear in a local county court on June 9 to give witness testimony in a conspiracy case he has covered extensively, relating to the deaths of two children. John Prior, an attorney representing the defendants in the case, filed the subpoena and the county’s deputy clerk signed it, according to the document on the website of the Idaho judiciary. 5/11/21: Disclosure of expert witness & lay witnesses filed by John Prior. Here:
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Disclosure%20of%20Expert%20and%20Lay%20Witnesses.pdf Motion hearing on 6/9/21.
5/17/21 Update: Grand jury day 1 continues on 5/18/21. 5/18/21 Update: Grand jury day 2 continues on 5/19/21. 5/19/21 Update: Grand jury day 3 continues on 5/20/21.
*Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell (46/now 47) arrested (in Kauai, Hawaii) on 2/20/20 & charged (6/30/20) & arraigned (9/20/20) with 2 counts of conspiracy to commit destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence. Bond was set at $5M & reduced to $1M. Fremont County
Trial was set to begin on 7/12/21 has been vacated. No further dates yet.
Grand Jury convened from May 17 to May 20 re JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan & Tammy Daybell.
Court info from 3/5/20 thru 5/7/21 reference post #373 here:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #57
5/7/21: Order by Judge: to close hearings & seal record. Response to request for discovery by State: Vallow's 4th supplemental discovery disclosure. 5/11/21: Disclosure of expert witness & lay witnesses filed by John Prior. Here:
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Disclosure of Expert and Lay Witnesses.pdf
Motions hearing on 6/9/21.
5/17/21 Update: Grand jury continues on 5/18/21. 5/18/21 Update: Grand jury continues of 5/19/21. 5/19/21 Update: Grand jury continues on 5/20/21.
*Madison County: Pretrial conference hearing on 8/17/21 & trial set to begin on 8/30/21 (thru 9/3/21 @ 9am).

 

[Dorothy Jane]

It’s so quiet... like everyone is holding their breath!

 

[pizzaman12]

How fast would any announcement usually take?

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

He must be writing a book on his iPad.

I figure that he has moved his "office" to the prison, or it is a way for him to get out of his house. It's a win-win situation. He is out of the house and working from the prison, and it allows Lori time to get out of her prison cell and have the freedom to surf the 'net, watch movie downloads, play solitaire or do whatever she wants to do to wile away the hours.

JMO.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM was at the women’s detention center today.

*I did not end up going to St Anthony today

 

[kshultz06082]

He must be writing a book on his iPad.

Or in crayons