Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2

[fred&edna]

I think it was the AVOW website I read some of Chad's comments (some discussion of old testament/new testament views) but the bottom line was... he was trying to distance himself from JRowe after (and just before) she was excommunicated. Sorry, I don't have a link. I think JRowe is speaking now to gain views, etc. JMO

 

[Redvines86]

This makes me very sad to say this, but I don't think the investigation will really go anywhere until Tammy's autopsy results come back. Horrible thing to say, but I think Alex Cox knows how to make bodies disappear. If Tammy's autopsy results come back showing foul play, (of course I'm sure she was murdered, but it depends what they find), the FBI will find Chad and Lori real quick. We won't know what happened to the kids unless Chad or Lori chose to talk, or someone in their circle feels the heat and says something.

 

[CSIDreamer]

This makes me very sad to say this, but I don't think the investigation will really go anywhere until Tammy's autopsy results come back. Horrible thing to say, but I think Alex Cox knows how to make bodies disappear. If Tammy's autopsy results come back showing foul play, (of course I'm sure she was murdered, but it depends what they find), the FBI will find Chad and Lori real quick. We won't know what happened to the kids unless Chad or Lori chose to talk, or someone in their circle feels the heat and says something.

I'm all sorts of interested in Alex's autopsy too. JMO

 

[Tinalar]

Thanks for taking one for the team.
Does anyone know if what was said about the young people being warriors are common LDS beliefs? Are their young people taught that they're going to be trained to kill or is this part of Chad's visions?

I don't know if this has already been answered (since I'm like 30 pgs behind) but when we talk of the youth of the LDS church being "warriors," it's mostly meant as warriors of faith. Strong in their beliefs, willing to stand up for what they believe & unmoving in the face of opposition. Not actual fighting warriors. (Life long member of the LDS church here.)

 

[Redvines86]

I don't know if this has already been answered (since I'm like 30 pgs behind) but when we talk of the youth of the LDS church being "warriors," it's mostly meant as warriors of faith. Strong in their beliefs, willing to stand up for what they believe & unmoving in the face of opposition. Not actual fighting warriors. (Life long member of the LDS church here.)

I'm a lifelong member as well, warrior never meant actual fighting warrior, that's Chad's and Jason's imagination trying to sell stories and get people all worked up. This cult of Chad's, which I think of as the Spring Creek cult, after his publishing company, along with JR and HS really have a doctrine set up that it's own very teenage fantasy, boys fighting and girls having angel friends.

 

[SuziQ]

@Maxxer500, I am really worried most about the missing children of course, but I have been getting worried as well for Tammy's kids. I doubt very much they have correct information concerning the penalties for knowing information or helping their dad. I have no faith the lawyer for Chad gave them good advice. They are good kids, socially awkward sure, pretty sheltered, and with no idea the federal laws they could be breaking. Do you think your grandparents could talk to Chad's parents about this? I think Garth would listen to them and then be able to talk to his siblings.

This is my concern as well. And I hope others realize that telling people not to talk to LE is OJ as well. I see a bunch of OJ charges being handed down. It is the person who gets to to LE first, that gets the best deal.

 

[Redvines86]

This is my concern as well. And I hope others realize that telling people not to talk to LE is OJ as well. I see a bunch of OJ charges being handed down. It is the person who gets to to LE first, that gets the best deal.

And the Fed guys do not mess around with OJ stuff. It doesn't matter if you're a cute little mom with littles at home, you're spending some serious time in places you do not want to be.

 

[Mentalheadslap2018]

He has autism and ADHD. I am assuming he takes multiple meds. One of the meds is so he can sleep. He doesn't sleep if he doesn't take it for more than few hours, and is totally miserable and makes everybody around him miserable (per his grandmother). So if he is alive somewhere without his med, I really don't envision him to be happy and smiling. And nobody around him would be happy and smiling either.

I'm sure you're correct - if he is alive somewhere without his medication he would likely be in great distress. I have two young grandsons with ASD, and while neither take medication, the abrupt change in routine ALONE would confuse and bewilder either of them, and the 10 year old in particular would be particularly inconsolable due to his very limited ability to communicate. I can only hope JJ and Tylee have the comfort of being together. My heart really goes out to these children. :-(

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I'm sure you're correct - if he is alive somewhere without his medication he would likely be in great distress. I have two young grandsons with ASD, and while neither take medication, the abrupt change in routine ALONE would confuse and bewilder either of them, and the 10 year old in particular would be particularly inconsolable due to his very limited ability to communicate. I can only hope JJ and Tylee have the comfort of being together. My heart really goes out to these children. :-(

What concerns me for the kids is that there isn't a large body of people or resources surrounding the absconded Daybells. With Warren Jeffs, he had the YFZ ranch hideout in Texas, one in Colorado, one in Pringle ND, Hildale and Colorado City, not to mention scattered peeps all over the West. This pair has NO resources or place of hiding to put the kids away while they honeymoon and scoot about on their end times adventure. I fear the worst for them and wont be surprised if the newlywed Daybells go full Heaven's Gate. Never go full Heaven's Gate!

 

[Redvines86]

What concerns me for the kids is that there isn't a large body of people or resources surrounding the absconded Daybells. With Warren Jeffs, he had the YFZ ranch hideout in Texas, one in Colorado, one in Pringle ND, Hildale and Colorado City, not to mention scattered peeps all over the West. This pair has NO resources or place of hiding to put the kids away while they honeymoon and scoot about on their end times adventure. I fear the worst for them and wont be surprised if the newlywed Daybells go full Heaven's Gate. Never go full Heaven's Gate!

I think the best way out of this for Lori is get rid of Chad and blame everything on Alex. Chad better be sleeping with one eye open.

 

[andalso]

I think the best way out of this for Lori is get rid of Chad and blame everything on Alex. Chad better be sleeping with one eye open.

BBM: And ironically that's the name of that crazy podcast too!

 

[mickey2942]

I think the best way out of this for Lori is get rid of Chad and blame everything on Alex. Chad better be sleeping with one eye open.

Clever. Jodi Arias with blonde hair. Maybe Chad is realizing that his librarian wife wasn't so bad. He is deep into it now though.

I don't see how he could flip everything on Lori, even if he wanted to...but I can easily see how Lori could make herself a victim here, again.

 

[Redvines86]

Clever. Jodi Arias with blonde hair. Maybe Chad is realizing that his librarian wife wasn't so bad. He is deep into it now though.

I don't see how he could flip everything on Lori, even if he wanted to...but I can easily see how Lori could make herself a victim here, again.

And she solved a whole lot of her problems in the process.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Gray Hughes has another one up where he vets Julie's BS. Pretty funny stuff! Julie recalls she saw the entire altercation fold in a vision -- even though no one told her anything about it - but oops she lets slip she read a news article about it. Gray calls it out!

 

[Steelslady]

I think the best way out of this for Lori is get rid of Chad and blame everything on Alex. Chad better be sleeping with one eye open.

But Alex is deceased already. Unless he killed Chad first and then Lori killed Alex.


Edited- my previous comment made absolutely no sense, unless Chad came back to life again, only to be killed again, lol. Sorry for the confusion!

 

[Redvines86]

But Alex is deceased already. Unless he killed Chad first and then Lori killed Chad.

Right, I mean blame Alex for the kids deaths and anything else she wants. She would have to kill Chad herself, which I don't think she would have any problems with. Or she seems pretty capable of finding sympathetic strong guys to help her out...

 

[Gardener1850]

Now, I am wondering if Chad made an appearance at these events (he's listed on the schedule)
Oct 26-27 St George, Utah, AND Nov 16-17 in Mesa, AZ

https://www.colormymedia.com/


ETA: Also wonder if a little side trip to Vegas for a wedding could have occurred??

Were these two "on the run" during this time? I simply can't remember

Thanks for pointing those event flyers out. I added them to the Timeline thread but I wanted to note that we can't tell from 3 of the flyers what year those events happened as they only have month and day on them. One flyer on that page has Sept 2018 on it so I think those appearances all might have been in 2018. MOO.

 

[mickey2942]

Thanks for pointing those event flyers out. I added them to the Timeline thread but I wanted to note that we can't tell from 3 of the flyers what year those events happened as they only have month and day on them. One flyer on that page has Sept 2018 on it so I think those appearances all might have been in 2018. MOO.

I just checked out the website for "preparing a people", they have made it pretty clear that they have nothing to do with Chad Daybell.

https://www.preparingapeople.com/

 

[Ohmeohmy]

What concerns me for the kids is that there isn't a large body of people or resources surrounding the absconded Daybells. With Warren Jeffs, he had the YFZ ranch hideout in Texas, one in Colorado, one in Pringle ND, Hildale and Colorado City, not to mention scattered peeps all over the West. This pair has NO resources or place of hiding to put the kids away while they honeymoon and scoot about on their end times adventure. I fear the worst for them and wont be surprised if the newlywed Daybells go full Heaven's Gate. Never go full Heaven's Gate!

Agreed.. where are the kids.?

 

[BigAl16]

I just checked out the website for "preparing a people", they have made it pretty clear that they have nothing to do with Chad Daybell.

https://www.preparingapeople.com/

Or at least want nothing to do with him now.