Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2

[jjenny]

Very true, and sad. Kids like JJ do best with routines, normal, boring day to day living, without change or drama.

It seems like Lori, was definitely not the best person to adopt a special needs child. This was probably her ex husband's idea, and she kept the child, probably for the child support. I have no doubt that her ex was probably suing for custody, and probably would have received the child.

Same with Tylee, looks like her father was also trying to get custody of her. And Lori evaded him.

They might have not known during adoption JJ was special needs. Per grandmother, Charles (and presumably Lori) adopted JJ at around 8-9 months. JJ has level 2 autism (not the most severe kind). So the diagnosis age could be around 2-3 years of age. So during the adoption they might have expected that the child wasn't special needs.

 

[tresir2012]

Re an Amber Alert, I can see that would not be effective because the children have not been abducted as such or reported missing. This is to check on the children's welfare via the adults.. It reminds me a little of the case where the CPS went to check on the 5 adopted kids and the parents had driven away with them, eventually driving off a cliff in California. I hope the kids are safe, as the cultists are stating, and this can end with everyone safe. The lawyers better be giving good advice and have proof that the kids are safe IMO.

 

[Pretty kitty]

And please I am only saying this as when I see a parent taking their child off these meds I tend to think they have become more understanding accepting of their child as they are. And it gives me some hope that possibly this boy is okay and that taking off the drugs if indeed this is the case is not necessarily a bad thing. But unfortunately I may be very wrong and possibly all the sinister possible reasons are at play.

 

[Pretty kitty]

And please I am only saying this as when I see a parent taking their child off these meds I tend to think they have become more understanding accepting of their child as they are. And it gives me some hope that possibly this boy is okay and that taking off the drugs if indeed this is the case is not necessarily a bad thing. But unfortunately I may be very wrong and possibly all the sinister possible reasons are at play.

 

[Tigerlily75]

I like Zac's comments the best. But this is ridiculous that Lori and Chad have lawyers and others speaking for them. Why don't they just post a video showing they are all ok. And why is there constant talk of a custody battle?
I notice that there were replies to GH on there but he must have removed his comments. I think they want publicity. FBI should freeze their financial assets. I hope they can trace where they are broadcasting from ( like they did with the killers of Sydney Loofe when they were on the run.) They are stating several times that the lawyers know where they are so can the lawyers be made to tell the FBI? When the accusation of FBI being sex traffickers came up, then I just knew that they are hiding something. They should be protecting the kids, not the adults. MOO.

Yes, he seems obsessed with CPS taking the kids, and that that’s why they had to flee, because apparently CPS always takes the kids away in a custody battle. I noticed the GH replies too, but never saw what the replies were to.

Hector was asked if he actually knew where the kids were, or if he’d seen them himself, and he replied “no comment”.

I also notice that the channel was only created three days ago.

I’m sure the police have seen it by now, I really hope so.

 

[BigAl16]

I don’t know if not producing the kids is grounds for neglect. However, LE has checked pharmacy records nationally (per JJ’s grandfather) and it’s a fact that JJ has not been receiving his prescribed medication—at least not through legal filling of prescriptions in the US. Why couldn’t that be used as grounds for a neglect charge?

If LE saw something to be gained in filing charges against Lori, maybe this would work. The charges might not hold up if it ever got to court (she could say she stopped for religious reasons) but that wouldn't happen until they caught them. But there might be a fear that filing charges would escalate things in a way they'd prefer not to. MOO

 

[cody22]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, but have been following this case for a few days now since learning about it. It truly is heartbreaking.

I'm not entirely sure how much I should be sharing here so as not to be breaking any rules, but since the name of Julie Rowe has already been brought up in this thread then I feel somewhat more comfortable in sharing at least a little bit about some things I know in the hopes that perhaps it may be of use in finding the children and other persons of interest.

Julie Rowe, with the help of others, founded an organization a few years ago called the "Greater Tomorrow Relief Fund." If you do a quick Google search you'll find their website. Julie founded this organization with the intent of it being a means of providing "disaster relief." Her idea of disaster relief though is something of an end of days, apocalyptic, teotwawki scenario and her plan was/is to put in place the infrastructure, supplies, organization, and manpower needed to help "rescue" and bring people from a broken down dystopian world to "cities of light" where they'll find peace and safety. In other words something of an underground railroad system. If you look at the Greater Tomorrow Relief Fund website you'll see at the bottom of the page that one of the stated goals of her organization is to provide "places of safety." I don't know how many people are involved with her organization, or what resources they have available and put in place already, but I fear and suspect that this organization may be helping to aid and abet some of the individuals involved in this case. My own opinion obviously. I'm not an insider or anything, just a very concerned individual who has studied some of Julie Rowe's claimed experiences in the past, found a pattern of deception with her accounts, and tried to warn people off from following her. Again, these are just my own observations and opinions.

I really do hope and pray answers will be found, and that the children are safe.

Welcome and thank you for the info. Do you know if Julie Lowe and Chad Daybell have a "working close relationship" with a fellow " endtimes believer" named Hector Sosa Jr. ?......moo

 

[cody22]

Interesting comments under the Julie Rowe video from Hector Sosa.

Sosa is the 3rd visionary/prophet from the AVOW website along with Chad Daybell and Julie Rowe.

JMO

Bingo..... My " Hector Sosa" question just got answered....Thank you......moo

 

[jjenny]

Very true, and sad. Kids like JJ do best with routines, normal, boring day to day living, without change or drama.

It seems like Lori, was definitely not the best person to adopt a special needs child. This was probably her ex husband's idea, and she kept the child, probably for the child support. I have no doubt that her ex was probably suing for custody, and probably would have received the child.

Same with Tylee, looks like her father was also trying to get custody of her. And Lori evaded him.

Per the youtube show, Joseph Ryan (Tylee's dad) moved to Arizona to be near Tylee. It sure sounds like he was fighting for custody. It also sounds like in the middle of it Lori and Charles moved to Hawaii. Then Lori and Charles returned to Arizona (not sure of exact date). Then of course Joseph Ryan was found dead, apparently 3 weeks after he actually died. And the body was cremated.

 

[mickey2942]

Per the youtube show, Joseph Ryan (Tylee's dad) moved to Arizona to be near Tylee. It sure sounds like he was fighting for custody. It also sounds like in the middle of it Lori and Charles moved to Hawaii. Then Lori and Charles returned to Arizona (not sure of exact date). Then of course Joseph Ryan was found dead, apparently 3 weeks after he actually died. And the body was cremated.

Lori seems to thrive on creating drama. Must be quite a different experience for Chad, after being married to his librarian, Relief Society wife, Tammy.

 

[jjenny]

Lori seems to thrive on creating drama. Must be quite a different experience for Chad, after being married to his librarian, Relief Society wife, Tammy.

I think Chad likes drama. At the very least he has an active imagination, considering his numerous books about the end of the world.

 

[fred&edna]

Wonder what type of family emergency Chad experienced that prevented him from appearing at this weekend event?

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Can someone remind me when JJ was with Charles - and Lori's whereabouts were unknown? TIA!

 

[indicolite22]

'The couple’s lawyer released a statement Monday night saying: “Chad Daybell was a loving husband and has the support of his children in this matter. Lori Daybell is a devoted mother and resents assertions to the contrary. We look forward to addressing the allegations once they have moved beyond speculation and rumor.”'
Get out of here lol. They will remain speculation & rumor until you come out of hiding and put them to rest. This is the dumbest statement Ive ever heard in my life. Sounds like something a 15 year old would say. Rumors never end, speculation will never end now IMOO of course. We aren't talking to them until they stop talking about us and speading rumors..that is how I just took that statement. That cannot be the purpose of the statement rofl i think they just mean- once LE has proven them innocent...that may not occur with zero help from them.

Will they address the allegations if/when they are upgraded to criminal charges?

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Saw the Julie Rowe vid of her in her car... That triggered me into setting up an account. Why wasn't she ex'ed YEARS ago? She spews manure. What a crazy liar. She says the kids are OK and in a well lit sunny place and they're happy and laughing. Like.. In heaven? Oh that's what the vision must have meant! And Tammy was "involved in this phone call and she's wearing white and very happy"... Too bad she didn't see the cops and FBI getting involved. They should haul her carcass in and download all her crap on video so they can arrest her for obstruction later. I look forward to seeing her being vetted out as involved and a creepy crook by the cops.

 

[AceOndaCase]

I imagine Colby may have been called to the scene come get JJ. JJ was probably very distraught and w/autism needed a familiar adult face that wasn’t being interrogated by LE or incapacitated from grief (i.e. his grandparents)

According to an insider on Gray’s show, Tylee and JJ were sent to a car while the shooting happened, then soon after the shots, Lori drove JJ to school before she even called 911. Not sure if Colby arrived before police or not. Speaking of Colby—he doesn’t look too old so where was he living when he was under 18? Hmm. Haven’t heard much about him in all this stuff.

 

[fred&edna]

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[Alpha Bravo]

Interesting comments under the Julie Rowe video from Hector Sosa.

Sosa is the 3rd visionary/prophet from the AVOW website along with Chad Daybell and Julie Rowe.

JMO

So right at the end of the Julie Rowe rants, at about the 26:00 minute mark is where she gets a bit threatening. Saying she's gonna to expose the "Dark Side" and "May the Light Force be With You" kind of talk. And you too, FBI! (Yeah... a little bit of Star Wars license there but.. ya gotta listen to her crazy rant to see the analogy - and she does allude to herself as crazy 2x.) Eric Smith, interviewer, doesn't appear too convinced with her though he wanted to.

 

[proctorelites]

Will they address the allegations if/when they are upgraded to criminal charges?

Their attorney just made his point "Put up or shut up" Either you have proof there is a crime(s) or you don't.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Their attorney just made his point "Put up or shut up" Either you have proof there is a crime(s) or you don't.

Of course there has now been a crime. Lying to police about the location and welfare of at risk children, is "Obstruction of Justice".

Why there isn't a warrant out for their arrest at this point is beyond me. Is the LDS Side-Cult a slippery ball that LEO can't ever grasp?

 

[tresir2012]

I think Chad likes drama. At the very least he has an active imagination, considering his numerous books about the end of the world.

What's the point of buying his books if you know the ending?