Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2

[mzmarple]

IIRC, both Chad and Charles did (life?) insurance annuities?

No, Chad did not sell insurance. Charles did, as well as Brandon Boudreaux. Brandon was the guy married to Lori’s niece who was shot at in October.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Are you talking about the podcast, or another instance? In JRs podcast she gets very specific about her conversation with CD about "visions" of Tammy dying in a car accident (which IMO was them planning her murder), but she was granted an extension of mortal life .

Didn't one of our VI' s speak to such also. That Lori spoke to her about driving her kids off a cliff in a car, ( yet the VI said that she would always trust her kids with Lori?) Me, after someone said that, I would not trust her with my daughter not so much

either @anamanunee or @echoecho222 iirc said such above. IIRC, both posters said that their daughters were bff with the daughter.

I hope and assume those two bestie daughters are comforting each other through this all.

 

[jjenny]

No, Chad was into publishing LDS books, not annuities. I presume poster meant it was time to get/increase life insurance for Tammy if Chad was having visions that Tammy was going to die.

 

[andalso]

I am trying to just think basically here.
Aside from all the dead people (omg), how do prepppers prep exactly? Supplies would be needed. I am guessing that is what Lori was up to when she went MIA for 45 days (or 2 months or whatever it was)? Maybe? Buying and prepping?

Where are said supplies bought? Online? Wall-Mart? )*side note: I legit expect a Wal-Mart angle in every case at this point. It often happens. Jussayin'

But, if you are bunkering down, what do you need?

To the insiders, what kind of shoppers were Lori and Chad, what stores would they be likely to go to?

 

[Cecelia]

You may not like it but it isn’t a case that qualified. We don’t make the rules, and primarily the biggest one is the belief that there was an abduction. Nobody believes that was the case. They don’t even know what state these kids could be in. What good would an Amber Alert do 2-3 months later? Literally all it would say is look for two blonde kids matching their height and weight. With no suspect and no vehicle, the risk is every pair of blonde kids being called in to LE which is a waste of resources.

Just wanted to chime in that I agree with you on the Amber Alert issue. While I can understand many people being upset that one wasn't issued, I think we have to sit back and think about what an Amber Alert is for and the cases in which it'll actually be of use. It's not something to be issued every single time we find that a child is unaccounted for, or our phones would be going off a thousand times a day with them, making them utterly useless.

If a kid is known for certain to have been abducted -- such as by a noncustodial parent or by a stranger -- and you find out quickly enough to blast the details before the abductor has time to get the kid hidden somewhere, that's when the Amber Alert does the most good (especially if you have a license plate, car description, etc.). We don't have that here. We do have a whole boatload of alarming circumstances when taken all together, but based on what we know, we don't have what would even legally be called an abduction. Just my opinion, not a lawyer or member of LE.

 

[Beansie]

I don't know if this has already been answered (since I'm like 30 pgs behind) but when we talk of the youth of the LDS church being "warriors," it's mostly meant as warriors of faith. Strong in their beliefs, willing to stand up for what they believe & unmoving in the face of opposition. Not actual fighting warriors. (Life long member of the LDS church here.)

Thank you for sharing that. I hope you haven't felt attacked by any comments here. I think we all know that Chad and this group have gone off the deep end and it must be embarrassing at the very least for any LDS person to feel like they're connected to this. There are bad apples in every bunch of very nice apples.

Oh, what the heck...

The first podcast in this cached page shows Preparing a People podcast Sep 16 2019 with Chad Daybell. They pulled the podcast so you can't listen but it was there.

Listen to Preparing A People Podcast Network podcast on myTuner Radio

Heavens to murgatroyd, who is going to take one for the team and listen to this one for us? I don't want Chad taking up any room in my head.

Just a thought about whether or not this was a planned escape, for lack of a better word, by Chad and Lori. If it was planned why would Lori have bothered registering JJ in school? He went missing very soon after the beginning of the school year. Why not just tell anyone who asked that she was homeschooling him and just keep him at home until it was time to...I don't know...go underground because of some vision or prophecy about a specific date. This alone makes me think it was something unplanned that lead to them disappearing.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I agree that the 'Hide Lori and Chad Show" can continue for awhile. BUT, there will eventually be a full forensic investigation into the death of TD along with the ongoing investigations in AZ related to Lori.

Once the forensic results are processed and any arrest warrant/s obtained then the "Hide Lori and Chad Show" will need to end as justice is processed. Any folks involved in sheltering or hindering the investigation will also need to be fully prosecuted.

Given the sophistication of forensic testing that will no doubt be conducted in all of these cases, the silence and support of the non cooperating family members becomes even more baffling given the potential legal exposure they are creating for themselves.

The investigations will lead to her or not. Pffft, her saying that she has info for the case and calls media vs LE. pffft. And then complains lmao.

MOO

I'm with you.

Focus on what is happening with the case, not this red herring "lookie at me, lookie at me, call me media oh why aren't you calling me media, plug my site, gimme money" chit with Julie. It's not so "veiled" white noise to me. MOO

MOO

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Oh, what the heck...

The first podcast in this cached page shows Preparing a People podcast Sep 16 2019 with Chad Daybell. They pulled the podcast so you can't listen but it was there.

Listen to Preparing A People Podcast Network podcast on myTuner Radio

I wonder if PaP didn't pull all their nonsense as to not be associated with them any longer. But why not even take them off the listing on the page? Why can I still see the link? Just ex them completely, don't fool around. Looks amateurish. Not too preppy!

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Here is one thing I have spinning around in my head bc I am really into profiling—Chad talks about the youth rising up and basically being the future which does not make me think in any way that he would have the idea of killing children. From all we know of Lori (from what insiders on here say along with insiders on Gray’s videos and the close friend who was interviewed in msm) the most we have on Lori pertaining to this is that she said in so many words that her children would be better off dead. (I am paraphrasing of course). Her behavior after Joseph’s Ryan’s murder—to take off for 45 days (assuming she left the kids behind) is a good indicator to me (MOO) that she would be the more likely one to see to it that the children are gone for good.

I have tried to get a handle on this as well, and even asked a few questions in regards to it here. The thing is the youth rising up as warriors happens after they die, i believe? I thought that was this battle after the quake or whatever they call the end. That is why i have asked about JJ getting this auto exalted status because of having a disability. This status makes one a God or something. I have wondered if they wouldn't consider dying now to prepare for that time and lead everyone else? I really don't have a grasp on how they believe, it is foreign to me.

 

[mzmarple]

It looks like there was a ‘Preparing a People’-affiliated event in Rexburg, ID on Saturday, September 21, 2019. This was right before JJ’s last reported date of school attendance (Monday, Sept. 23).

Link: https://www.preparingapeople.com/copy-of-conference-tickets-1

 

[BigAl16]

I wonder if PaP didn't pull all their nonsense as to not be associated with them any longer. But why not even take them off the listing on the page? Why can I still see the link? Just ex them completely, don't fool around. Looks amateurish. Not too preppy!

Ummm. He said that page was a cached page. The current page doesn't show it.

 

[SuperTmo]

"No Comment?" Really? He either knows where the kids are or he doesn't! Does he think this is fun and games? What a selfish creep!

And what is with their custody battle hysteria? Anyone who had custody rights is DEAD!

I hope the FED's nail them all to the wall.

I hate cases like this where jerks like him come out of the woodwork, acting like they know something relevant. I swear, people just want to feel important so they insert themselves into investigations. I agree, he is a selfish creep!

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Ummm. He said that page was a cached page. The current page doesn't show it.

I'm guessing he thought it was cached because the podcast was missing.

 

[SuperTmo]

Yes yes and yes some like myself find it extremely offensive

It offends you that someone takes medications? It isn’t your business what meds a victim takes. His family has said that he takes medications he needs. We don’t even know that his meds are for autism or adhd only. He could take something life sustaining for all we know. Would that also be offensive?

 

[Alpha Bravo]

No, Chad was into publishing LDS books, not annuities. I presume poster meant it was time to get/increase life insurance for Tammy if Chad was having visions that Tammy was going to die.

GH mentions in one or more of his vids that Chad either bought new, or raised the Life Insurance on Tammy. His presentation is choppy, slow, long and has flashbacks, so good luck. Keep a pad handy to write the episode and second / minute / hour mark, you can reference the important details easier that way.

 

[renarde]

Thank you for sharing that. I hope you haven't felt attacked by any comments here. I think we all know that Chad and this group have gone off the deep end and it must be embarrassing at the very least for any LDS person to feel like they're connected to this. There are bad apples in every bunch of very nice apples.



Heavens to murgatroyd, who is going to take one for the team and listen to this one for us? I don't want Chad taking up any room in my head.

Just a thought about whether or not this was a planned escape, for lack of a better word, by Chad and Lori. If it was planned why would Lori have bothered registering JJ in school? He went missing very soon after the beginning of the school year. Why not just tell anyone who asked that she was homeschooling him and just keep him at home until it was time to...I don't know...go underground because of some vision or prophecy about a specific date. This alone makes me think it was something unplanned that lead to them disappearing.

Schools make excellent babysitters. I'm sure Lori was busy with Chad, prepping their people.

 

[fred&edna]

I'm guessing he thought it was cached because the podcast was missing.

It was cached (from Nov 2019). I posted it simply to show Prepare A People WAS associated with Chad, Lori and Time To Warrior Up podcasts despite the fact they want distance from Chad & Lori now.

And, he was on the May/June 2019 event list here but had to get a replacement due to "family emergency"

Buy tickets for Sandy, Utah - Preparing A People Event at Salt Lake Community College - Larry Miller Campus Conf. Center, Fri 31 May 2019

 

[CSIDreamer]

Between interviews and VIs, it seems to me that Lori cut contact with people about 18 months ago. Our VI @echoecho222 has stated that. Echo, do you have a last date of contact?

Relatives are saying she changed in the past 18 months.

March 2018 would be 18 months for when the children were last seen.

Bouncing off the post above me (several posts actually). She joined the cult. And within a month or two, Tylee's father was dead. And laid there for 3 weeks before his body was found. Convenient.

 

[Colorado303]

If Tylee got married, why wouldn't Lori simply tell police that Tylee got married and JJ was with them? Minimal age to marry in Idaho is 16, so it wouldn't be illegal. So there would be no need for Chad and Lori to take off.

Because they don’t want the police questioning Tylee or JJ. MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Julie says in the latest interview in her car, also vetted by GH, that she was undergoing an "LDS trial" in March and then exed in April. I presume this year, as the vid is two days old and she didnt clarify it other than that. Just a tidbit to go along with timelines. OF note, Chad was starting to ignore her calls at this time, and she was PO'ed about the loss of his attention. Not in her exact words, but yeah.

Someone upthread showed a date Chad was supposed to speak at some conference, but he had a family emergency and had to cancell. Around this time? I searched for the post and cannot find, but it was today.


@fred&edna just reposted above me and cross post I see now. "And, he was on the May/June 2019 event list here but had to get a replacement due to "family emergency"