Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

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  • #201
This is unbelievable
IMO
I’ve updated the media thread

It sure is crazy!

Thank you for updating the media thread! I often have difficulty grabbing twitter links and making them look organized like you do. :)
 
  • #202
I think we are watching 3 different counties (Rexburg) Madison County, Fremont County Idaho and then Maricopa County Arizona
If, big if, Chad was planning all of this clear back when they moved to Rexburg, it was a smart place to move if you didn't want to get caught MOO
 
  • #203
I hope beyond all hope Tylee and JJ are alive, I think it is possible whoever has them did not know the story behind why they were on the run so to speak, and that today's press release is waking up a lot of people as to what a complicated situation they are in by having these kids in their home. Many prepper people, while enjoying very much the drama and excitement of a theoretical apocalypse and end of days shootout, have no real interest in an actual apocalypse, at least not yet anyway. And not over two kids they didn't know the real story about.
Right now, the story - especially the most recent release from Rexburg PD - is largely being carried in Eastern Idaho, Salt Lake City, and the Phoenix, AZ areas. I don't happen to think that the children nor Lori and Chad are in those areas. The story needs to to get out in Kansas, Texas, and Southern California at a minimum.
 
  • #204
View attachment 222886 I keep going back to the phone ping information done by AZ LE to place the Tylee phone I believe in Rexburg ID. The LE reference to exactly which phone pinged in ID was vague IMO and I'm not sure whose phone exactly they were pinging?

We do have Tylee phone on Venmo on 10/10 and 10/16 paying Colby Ryan.

We don't know if this is really Tylee on the phone on these dates or could it have been another family member who was in possession of Tylees' phone (Lori perhaps?).

We also see Lori paying Colby Ryan on Venmo around the same time.

Does anyone understand whose phone AZ LE pinged in ID?

Was the phone pinged Tylee's, JJ's or Lori's?

Colby Ryan on Oct. 16 - Also, Koster Kennard just sent Kylee money 4 hours ago.

Confused....
I am with you on the ping of the phone...there is something to this. Also what is up with that latest Venmo? a reporter from Rexburg
 
  • #205
View attachment 222886 I keep going back to the phone ping information done by AZ LE to place the Tylee phone I believe in Rexburg ID. The LE reference to exactly which phone pinged in ID was vague IMO and I'm not sure whose phone exactly they were pinging?

We do have Tylee phone on Venmo on 10/10 and 10/16 paying Colby Ryan.

We don't know if this is really Tylee on the phone on these dates or could it have been another family member who was in possession of Tylees' phone (Lori perhaps?).

We also see Lori paying Colby Ryan on Venmo around the same time.

Does anyone understand whose phone AZ LE pinged in ID?

Was the phone pinged Tylee's, JJ's or Lori's?

Colby Ryan on Oct. 16 - Also, Koster Kennard just sent Kylee money 4 hours ago.

Confused....

I am looking at these transactions on Oct 10th and Oct 16th and wondering if they could at all be connected to the paintball incident on Oct 9th and Tammy's death on Oct 19th. Weird.
 
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Right now, the story - especially the most recent release from Rexburg PD - is largely being carried in Eastern Idaho, Salt Lake City, and the Phoenix, AZ areas. I don't happen to think that the children nor Lori and Chad are in those areas. The story needs to to get out in Kansas, Texas, and Southern California at a minimum.
I wish I could like that more than once, and not even very much in Utah, my extended family has barely heard of it.
 
  • #208
I think LE is exposing the real Lori and Chad. So that people think twice about sitting on any info they have.

Eta: also to explain why they think the children are in danger.

This story just gets crazier every single time I check this thread. Absolutely speechless, as to why these people won't just come forward and bring in the kids...like "normal" people.

Although, "normal" people don't have spouses who are shot, or exhumed for an autopsy.
 
  • #209
I am with you on the ping of the phone...there is something to this. Also what is up with that latest Venmo? a reporter from Rexburg
Really? That is even weirder.
 
  • #210
Maybe M and her new husband have the children? I have no reason to believe this other than I don't want to believe the children are dead. MOO

RSBM

I wondered this too as she is also MIA right?
 
  • #211
I wish I could like that more than once, and not even very much in Utah, my extended family has barely heard of it.
It's all over northern Utah, at least my family/social/work circles!
 
  • #212
I have been meaning to work on a very detailed timeline for this case but the holidays got in the way. I'm going to start on one now, but no promises on when I'll get it done and post it. This is doozy of a case with too much info to keep straight without a timeline.

MOO.
 
  • #213
Justin Lum Fox 10‏Verified account @jlumfox10 6m6 minutes ago




JUST IN: Rexburg PD says Lori Daybell told witnesses her daughter died a year before the death of her father - which is false. This happened weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death. Police say Chad Daybell also said Lori had no minor children.

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OMG.
 
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The children are reportedly "endangered missing" ... what type of charges could be filed (at this time) against Lori for withholding information? Child abuse/endangering welfare of a child? Or is this obstruction?
 
  • #216
It almost feels like she wasn't that in to social media. Yeah, the tweets stopped, but there weren't many of them for the couple years the account was active. Maybe one every 3-4 weeks. Or possibly no one has found the social media app she was into (or maybe security on it is tight enough that we can't see for those that have that option).

Agreed. One of her Tweets from May 3 2015 even states
"I am awful at updating my status"

It wouldn't utterly shock me to find a teenager who wasn't entirely enmeshed in SM, especially if she's the shy sort or preferred to spend real time with her besties.

What's more troubling is what happened when she drifted apart from those besties, and "graduated" high school – yet didn't seem to embark on any known new ventures or friendships.

How long has it been since someone noticed this girl and mentioned it? :( The September 2019 date for her last sighting seems mere rumor without that detail.

I want to know when her brother Colby last talked to her. He seems to hold some of the keys to her existence, and I hope he's sharing them with LE even if not the public.
 
  • #217
This story just gets crazier every single time I check this thread. Absolutely speechless, as to why these people won't just come forward and bring in the kids...like "normal" people.

Although, "normal" people don't have spouses who are shot, or exhumed for an autopsy.
Presumably kids have to be in a live form for that.
 
  • #218
The children are reportedly "endangered missing" ... what type of charges could be filed (at this time) against Lori for withholding information? Child abuse/endangering welfare of a child? Or is this obstruction?

Lying to LEO. At least, she did not supply requested information to LEO during the "Welfare Check" for JJ. She provided false information, stating that JJ was in Arizona with relatives, LEO had to follow up on this, found out that was false.

At this point, that is all I can see.

And that is what Casey Anthony was convicted of....less than 12 months.
 
  • #219
As requested, below is a more legible version of today's press release:

UPDATE ON MISSING CHILDREN VALLOW/RYAN 12-30-2019
The Rexburg Police Department and the Madison County, Idaho Prosecutor’s Office want to thank everyone who has worked with us to find Joshua Vallow and Tylee Ryan since our press release on December 20th. The search for Joshua and Tylee is ongoing. We appreciate everyone who has brought attention to this situation by sharing information with our offices and on social media. We are very grateful for the help of the FBI and their resources. Finally, we are grateful for all the media outlets who have shared press releases and stories relating to these missing children. We continue to welcome any information regarding these children’s whereabouts from informed citizens, investigative journalism, or any other source.

Since we first received a missing child report on November 26th, our number one priority has been finding Joshua and Tylee. We have taken every step available to us, including executing multiple search warrants, interviewing multiple sources, and running down every lead we have found. We strongly believe that Joshua and Tylee’s lives are in danger. We are aware that in the weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death, Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell told witnesses that Lori’s daughter had died a year before the death of her father, which is untrue. Around that same time Chad told another witness that Lori had no minor children.

Many people have inquired as to why we have not filed charges yet in this case. Our primary concern at this point is simply locating Joshua and Tylee and charging decisions will be made in due course based upon the evidence available. If we find that harm was done to these children within our jurisdiction, we will prosecute whoever caused that harm.

As stated in our previous press release, Lori Vallow/Daybell, the adopted mother of Joshua and biological mother of Tylee, has completely refused to assist this investigation. We know that the children are not with Lori and Chad Daybell and we also have information indicating that Lori knows either the location of the children or what has happened to them. Despite having this knowledge, she has refused to work with law enforcement to help us resolve this matter. It is astonishing that rather than work with law enforcement to help us locate her own children, Lori Vallow has chosen instead to leave the state with her new husband.

We publicly call on Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell to do the right thing and come forward with the information they have about the location and welfare of Joshua and Tylee. This entire investigation could have been avoided if Lori and Chad had simply been honest with law enforcement. We further continue to ask that anyone with any information regarding the location or welfare of Joshua and Tylee share that information with law enforcement.

Rexburg Police Department

"We are aware that in the weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death, Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell told witnesses that Lori’s daughter had died a year before the death of her father, which is untrue."

This does not bode well. Tylee's social media has been sparse to non existent for what, nearly two years? And no contact with friends for a year? Not getting a good feeling about this at all. MOO.
 
  • #220
Per Rexburg police press release, Tylee was with Lori in Idaho and hasn't been seen since September. So I am assuming that police verified that she was still alive in September of 2019.
 
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