Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

[BigAl16]

Air travel has been mentioned. Could they have, I don't even know what to call them, associates? who would have access to a small private plane? Those don't even have to file a flight plan, do they? Could any of Chad's fans on his super secret forum be financially well-off & doing the funding?

This is a possibility, I'd think.

 

[BigAl16]

I am not sure why Chad would receive SS for Tammy unless they had minor children. AFAIK, Chad is not SS age. Anyone?

Your thinking is right on this. Any SS money in this mess is going to be to Lori due to Tylee and JJ.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Your thinking is right on this. Any SS money in this mess is going to be to Lori due to Tylee and JJ.

IF Tylee was getting SS then Lori running off at the mouth has just landed her in deep doodie with the SSA. JMO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

From what I know of this website, this would be the place to go for support and resources for Daybell to be able to stay out of sight. The private subforum allows for conversations that are not seen on the public, pay to view portion. MOO, but if he's active on the site, he's likely giving his version of events.

It scares me to think that any criminals could join WS, and do private chats away from LE radar. (reminds me of another case where perps communicated clear as day on a discussion/app which was private.. not traceable/easily found by LE... )

 

[Ohmeohmy]

How well was Chad Daybell known to the worldwide, even U.S., Mormon congregation? I mean, we all know the Osmonds are Mormons, right? Did your average Mormon know about him? I'm just questioning what kind of reach he actually has beyond a small group treating him like a celebrity. I'm wondering how soon him and Lori find the help running out if they don't have long term hiding arrangements. JMO.

Speaking as active member of LDS Church, I have NEVER heard of him. You would have to be into that sub group audience. I am still wondering who he was/is as an author.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

IF Tylee was getting SS then Lori running off at the mouth has just landed her in deep doodie with the SSA. JMO

Anyone can alert SSA of suspected fraud. Might be another good investigation angle to pursue. Moo.

 

[kelsie]

In case it hasn't yet been posted,
there is a new video by the brother

He describes their personalities here.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Sorry, I really didn’t know or research was just bringing up the topic. I think you’re right, no benefit for chad yet. At age 60 possible. Although I’m sure she has a nice retirement plan with the school system.

Lori could collect because of JJ.

Married? Here's How Social Security Survivor Benefits for a Spouse Work
At any age, if you are caring for a child younger than age 16, you will receive 75% of the deceased worker’s benefit amount.

https://www.thebalance.com/social-security-survivor-benefits-for-a-spouse-2388918

 

[diggndeeperstill]

It scares me to think that any criminals could join WS, and do private chats away from LE radar. (reminds me of another case where perps communicated clear as day on a discussion/app which was private.. not traceable/easily found by LE... )

There are way more places for this. Discord servers, game chats, Reddit forums you name it.

 

[BigAl16]

Married? Here's How Social Security Survivor Benefits for a Spouse Work
At any age, if you are caring for a child younger than age 16, you will receive 75% of the deceased worker’s benefit amount.

I guess I remembered that wrong. Or maybe it changed from 18 to 16 at some point. (My ex was receiving benefits for her daughter years ago.)

 

[Mentalheadslap2018]

I am still curious as to what was, and how it was learned, to be suspicious.

"Fremont County is currently awaiting an autopsy report on Tammy Daybell, and it’s expected to be received in the next two weeks. Suspicions were raised about her death after the Vallow children were publicly reported missing, and after Chad Daybell quickly married Vallow just days after Tammy’s death."

Tammy Daybell threatened with paintball gun weeks before her death

 

[renarde]

Air travel has been mentioned. Could they have, I don't even know what to call them, associates? who would have access to a small private plane? Those don't even have to file a flight plan, do they? Could any of Chad's fans on his super secret forum be financially well-off & doing the funding?

So, maybe... something like Uber to the Rexburg-Madison County Airport, then a small private airplane out of state?

That could be how LE knew Tylee and JJ were not with Lori and Chad... <moo>

https://byuiscroll.org/uber-is-now-available-in-rexburg/

 

[Ohmeohmy]

12/31/2019

https://nypost.com/2019/12/31/famil...-descent-into-cult-after-her-kids-go-missing/

 

[LAborn]

IF Tylee was getting SS then Lori running off at the mouth has just landed her in deep doodie with the SSA. JMO

Wouldn't she get SS benefit from her dead husband, since she's widowed and taking care of children?

 

[LAborn]

Had never heard of this case until today. Reading the chain of events, I suspect the cult leader "disappeared" the children, especially since he married the mother. What the heck is wrong with her, is what I want to know. She fell off the deep end!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Wouldn't she get SS benefit from her dead husband, since she's widowed and taking care of children?

Do you mean instead of Tylee getting it directly? I dunno. The minor children are the catalyst for it though.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

12/31/2019

https://nypost.com/2019/12/31/dooms...e-visions-about-first-wifes-mysterious-death/

 

[Redvines86]

Everyone wants to feel important. Most of us however are just average everyday human beings. Apparently, because of his NDEs, Chad felt that he was above the average that everyone else could acheive. He tried to get his voice heard through his writing but was not quite as successful as he felt he should be. MOO. Though chat groups(AVOW and PAP) and podcasts he was able to gather a following that would stroke and inflate his ego and lend credence to his words and theories from his visions.

Then a woman entered his world like no other. She clung to every word he said(it has been stated several time that she was obsessed with his books even years ago) and made Chad feel more important than he had ever felt in his entire life. She planted seeds of deception and tended them until she felt she could manipulate Chad into doing things that were completely out of his character.

I walked the same halls as Chad. I spoke to this man, he was the executive secretary in the current bishopric and listened to him talk in church meetings and never once did I think that he was a bit off. He acted normal in everyday life. Little did I know that he was leading 2 seperate lives. One, the everyday father and husband and the other, the man that was gathering flocks of followers that beleived him to be a seet and revelator. I just thought he was quiet but it always tends to be the quiet ones that you should be wary of.

The thing that makes me shudder the most was this last summer when my daughter was taking a writing class up at the college and needed to interview someone about writing. My wife and I suggested Chad Daybell. He lived just down the road and was a writer. It is a good thing she listened to her inner voice and did not contact him.

These are just my thought and opinions in trying to make sense of this multifaceted, confusing mess

Hello Lurker042, very interesting insights! I was a friend of Chad's in high school, and I am also LDS. I have a couple of questions. Did the ward think Chad was kind of a big deal because of his books? Was he the secretary up until Tammy's death? Meaning he had not been excommunicated?

 

[mzmarple]

New article with more info about Brandon’s shooting:
How a Gilbert drive-by shooting is tied to the Idaho missing children

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

They did. 3 or 4 hours for a cursory autopsy if I remember correctly. JMO.

Interesting. I would think there would be blood and/or tissue samples then from the first autopsy that could have been tested for poisons.