Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #4

[Friday Fan]

I would be interested in knowing about that. Was it solitaire?

It was Frontierville. Like Farmville, where you build your own town. He claims she was "addicted". Maybe it was a source of stress relief for her? Maybe it was a diversion from Chad? MOO

 

[Colorado303]

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Top cop looking for two lacking Idaho kids points warning to their fugitive mom | Post of Asia

Love this pic!

Where are you two? Please, believe that we want only the best for you both!

They must have copied an article in another language, converted to English w/Google Translator then hit send. It would be funny, except imprecise language in a case like this can all too easily create confusion.

 

[BigAl16]

I just made an account, as a local Mormon rexburg citizen, to make a plea to my fellow members to quit being so defensive about our faith. Just because someone isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean they can’t fully participate in our weekly services with us. And to be honest emotional healing and alternative health Etc is fairly common in LDS culture. (Hello oil MLMs) We have a wide variety of opinions and beliefs even among active weekly members. I don’t think people in this forum are having a hard time grasping that. I’m frustrated at people in these fringe groups claiming full mormonism but of course this has to do with our faith an beliefs — for crying out loud it’s about a man who had dreams/visions as a teenager that set him up as a prophet leading a small group of religious followers, the literal way our faith was founded—of course members will be more susceptible to these types of claims. And the recent ramping up of changes from SLC and some of the things said has effected the timeline these fringe groups see their actions with. Don’t take this as an opportunity to do missionary work and quote articles of faith. Just help give people context to what JD & CD might have been thinking and focus on our task. Yes some of our beliefs sound out there and it’s hard to admit how easily they can be twisted. But this defensiveness and bickering needs to stop MOO

Exactly on all counts, at least IMO.

 

[tresir2012]

I just made an account, as a local Mormon rexburg citizen, to make a plea to my fellow members to quit being so defensive about our faith. Just because someone isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean they can’t fully participate in our weekly services with us. And to be honest emotional healing and alternative health Etc is fairly common in LDS culture. (Hello oil MLMs) We have a wide variety of opinions and beliefs even among active weekly members. I don’t think people in this forum are having a hard time grasping that. I’m frustrated at people in these fringe groups claiming full mormonism but of course this has to do with our faith an beliefs — for crying out loud it’s about a man who had dreams/visions as a teenager that set him up as a prophet leading a small group of religious followers, the literal way our faith was founded—of course members will be more susceptible to these types of claims. And the recent ramping up of changes from SLC and some of the things said has effected the timeline these fringe groups see their actions with. Don’t take this as an opportunity to do missionary work and quote articles of faith. Just help give people context to what JD & CD might have been thinking and focus on our task. Yes some of our beliefs sound out there and it’s hard to admit how easily they can be twisted. But this defensiveness and bickering needs to stop MOO

Welcome to WS. Who is JD and CD? CD = Chad Daybell, JD = ?

 

[Jethro4WS]

They must have copied an article in another language, converted to English w/Google Translator then hit send. It would be funny, except imprecise language in a case like this can all too easily create confusion.

Yes. We have to be careful of stories that get linked because all the click-bait shops are picking up the story to drive traffic to them. So we need to check the site to be sure it is MSM.

 

[Colorado303]

I just made an account, as a local Mormon rexburg citizen, to make a plea to my fellow members to quit being so defensive about our faith. Just because someone isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean they can’t fully participate in our weekly services with us. And to be honest emotional healing and alternative health Etc is fairly common in LDS culture. (Hello oil MLMs) We have a wide variety of opinions and beliefs even among active weekly members. I don’t think people in this forum are having a hard time grasping that. I’m frustrated at people in these fringe groups claiming full mormonism but of course this has to do with our faith an beliefs — for crying out loud it’s about a man who had dreams/visions as a teenager that set him up as a prophet leading a small group of religious followers, the literal way our faith was founded—of course members will be more susceptible to these types of claims. And the recent ramping up of changes from SLC and some of the things said has effected the timeline these fringe groups see their actions with. Don’t take this as an opportunity to do missionary work and quote articles of faith. Just help give people context to what LV & CD might have been thinking and focus on our task. Yes some of our beliefs sound out there and it’s hard to admit how easily they can be twisted. But this defensiveness and bickering needs to stop MOO

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[Idaholocal]

Oh and I have a family member who I think is a part of AVOW, they came to visit rexburg this summer to participate in a Chad Daybell visions conference, but since it hasn’t been confirmed on the PAP website I’m assuming it was arranged through the private AVOW. They stopped by my house to visit July 1. Unfortunately I don’t think they’d disclose any of this.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

My opinion... this is also how a lot of people were able to research their ancestry, long before the internet. People trying to find out about their family history often hoped their ancestors had been "baptized" posthumously by the Mormons. The Mormons kept very detailed records in SLC and were very helpful to anyone who wanted to know more about their family tree.

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I agree as to why some of us want to learn more about the LDS as this seems to be a possible way in which followers were gained through their beliefs.

As you noted, until this case, all I knew about LDS was that in the 80's I did genealogy, and traveled to SLC to their libraries to research. They were the best in the world as to how so many places all over the world opened up their church birth/death records ONLY to LDS folks to document records at that time.

So to those that don't think this will help find the two children, I ask to consider that there is some information learned which helps me understand how Lori/Chad etc beliefs are indeed a part of this story which needs to be understood at some level the LDS beliefs.

MOO, and utmost respect for our insiders and @Maxxer500 for bearing with us ignorant folks (ignorant NOT being an insult, merely the truth as unknowing but willing to learn) and bearing witness as to what they know with us here.

 

[tresir2012]

It was Frontierville. Like Farmville, where you build your own town. He claims she was "addicted". Maybe it was a source of stress relief for her? Maybe it was a diversion from Chad? MOO

Frontierville

TY both. I have heard of it but never played it. Why did Chad want Tammy to stop playing that? Did she comply and stop?

 

[Idaholocal]

Welcome to WS. Who is JD and CD? CD = Chad Daybell, JD = ?

Sorry typo, meant LV. I edited my post

 

[Jethro4WS]

TY both. I have heard of it but never played it. Why did Chad want Tammy to stop playing that? Did she comply and stop?

Per the linked Chad Daybell blog entry he wanted her to stop because she was spending time playing the game rather than doing genealogical research on thousands of long dead people buried in a county in Kansas. Per the entry he wrote she did stop playing.

 

[renarde]

Is it possible that on the day Rexburg PD came back to the apartment with a warrant (on the day after the initial welfare check) ... and Chad and Lori had already fled... that Chad and Lori caught a ride with Melani and her soon-to-be husband (at the time) as he/they were heading to Las Vegas?

Mel's new husband, who had very recently divorced, also lived in Rexburg at the time. It's a small town...

 

[Jethro4WS]

Is it possible that on the day Rexburg PD came back to the apartment with a warrant (on the day after the initial welfare check) ... and Chad and Lori had already fled... that Chad and Lori caught a ride with Melani and her soon-to-be husband (at the time) as he/they were heading to Las Vegas?

Mel's new husband, who had very recently divorced, also lived in Rexburg at the time. It's a small town...

Very possible.

 

[Friday Fan]

TY both. I have heard of it but never played it. Why did Chad want Tammy to stop playing that? Did she comply and stop?

He writes about it here:
16- Paving the way to Paradise | cdaybell.com

 

[Gardener1850]

I just followed up with Justin Lum and asked him about it and he responded that it was a typo on their part and it was March of 2019. FYI @Gardener1850

Thank you! I'll edit the timeline accordingly.

 

[155etta]

Per the linked Chad Daybell blog entry he wanted her to stop because she was spending time playing the game rather than doing genealogical research on thousands of long dead people buried in a county in Kansas. Per the entry he wrote she did stop playing.

If I had to choose between Design Home and the genealogical work my husband thought I should spend all my spare time doing, he'd be history. Seriously though, that's pretty telling. It hints at who (and their beliefs) was in charge in the Daybell home. I wonder what Tammy's life was REALLY like. MOO.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Is it possible that on the day Rexburg PD came back to the apartment with a warrant (on the day after the initial welfare check) ... and Chad and Lori had already fled... that Chad and Lori caught a ride with Melani and her soon-to-be husband (at the time) as he/they were heading to Las Vegas?

Mel's new husband, who had very recently divorced, also lived in Rexburg at the time. It's a small town...

Hmm, is there a "latest update timeline" from the first post in the thread that can be thrown up again? Thank goodness for the timeline for this case at WS.

 

[renarde]

Very possible.

So they could've all been heading toward Las Vegas on November 28th? And met up with Alex and his soon-to-be in Las Vegas by the 29th?

 

[Ontario Mom]

If that's what he means then I guess I disagree, which I've already explained in another post. I spend my first 18-ish years being indoctrinated in LDS beliefs and I agree, much of what Lori and, to some degree Chad, have reportedly said is way outside of LDS teachings. But I also think that some of it is starting with the LDS teachings and then from that staring point diving down a slippery slope. Where you end up is definitely not where you began, but knowing where you started is a lot of help in understanding where you ended up

I must respectfully disagree. I suspect fellow congregants at the Lutheran church would agree, that there is quite literally nothing within Lutheran doctrine that would be of any benefit in explaining what Dennis Rader (BTK) did. Just because a person was once connected to or associated with "ABC", doesn't mean that ABC can explain anything they've done since.

moo

 

[Friday Fan]

If I had to choose between Design Home and the genealogical work my husband thought I should spend all my spare time doing, he'd be history. Seriously though, that's pretty telling. It hints at who (and their beliefs) was in charge in the Daybell home. I wonder what Tammy's life was REALLY like. MOO.

I see this kind of behavior in Evangelicals circles.
Also Andrea Yates' (the Houston woman who drowned her 5 kids in the bathtub) husband was like this.
Maybe instead using aggression as a method of control, they wrap it up with the veil of religion and they then think it is socially acceptable. MOO