Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #5

[jjenny]

There also is a Medical Examiner involved with the process. ME's are typically MDs with special credentials and certifications and would be responsible for the autopsy is that way that I believe the link I posted earlier today explained the situation in ID.

I don't believe ME was involved after Tammy died. Most msm articles state no autopsy was done, death was attributed to natural causes by the coroner.
I would like to see what exactly Tammy's father said.

 

[Avocado49]

"The family told me they would like to meet surviving members of the Daybell family to show their love and support."

Adam Herbets on Twitter

I just knew it wasn’t a paintball gun!!

 

[Onsdag]

She apparently had a coughing and vomiting attack at some point and died in her sleep. Chad found her cold on the floor beside the bed.

Two questions... If Tammy had a "cough and vomit" attack the night she died, how did this not wake Chad up?? The sounds didn't wake him? Her falling off the bed didn't wake him?

This is something that keeps coming back and bothering me as well. Supposedly Tammy died "peacefully in her sleep" (from the obit):

Obituary for Tamara Michelle Daybell at Flamm Funeral Home

As well I have an email from AVOW and the GRI newsletter, dated October 31, which Chad Daybell authored and published, wherein he personally describes in a little more detail the circumstances surrounding her passing. I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to quote from or cite this email as it's not a MSM source, but it too paints a picture of her passing away peacefully in her sleep, much like the obituary.

Which just strikes me as really odd considering the above quoted details of Tammy coughing and vomiting that night as she went to bed, and being found on the ground as though she had fallen out of bed. This to me sounds almost as if she were really struggling, and perhaps in pain or marked distress. Or perhaps getting into or out of bed and she collapsed? Either way it just seems the "peacefully in her sleep" narrative is a little incongruent with the coughing/vomiting/falling out of bed narrative. MOO. Does that make sense?

And maybe I'm way out in left field, but I'm also wondering if perhaps the LE search of CD's house the other day may have included trying to find traces of vomit or such from Tammy's apparent sudden sickness? If there was poisoning involved would any evidence remain (say she vomited on the carpet?) after three months? Someone pointed out that one of the boxes LE had appeared to say luminol on the side - could that be used to find vomit or other bodily fluids besides blood?

 

[Chewy1972]

I am new to this Forum and have been reading up on all of this information but you are correct. Yes, he was a long haul truck driver it was stated in the interview that was posted that I listened to earlier today. The Gary Hughes You Tube interview.

From this youtube interview sister of Charles and her Husband told Gary Hughes that Alex was a long haul truck driver and had worked the last time the day before the shooting and was staying the night at lori vallow home that is why he was there that next morning with her... if you have not listened to it you should i believe it is on this thread.... near the beginning that someone posted she clearly states that it was the last time that Alex had worked and that he stayed the night at the house and that was the last time he worked etc. just an FYI

 

[Countem]

didn’t Colby Ryan say that Lori called him to come over, saying that Charles had a heart attack and died? And that Alex had a bandage on his head but they told Colby it was unrelated. I wonder if Colby saw Tylee that day (I think CR also said that Tylee told him she took JJ to the car as directed).

I haven’t heard that one before! Do you have a link to the interview with Colby? I’d definitely be interested in reading/hearing that.

 

[jjenny]

I haven’t heard that one before! Do you have a link to the interview with Colby? I’d definitely be interested in reading/hearing that.

That comes not from Colby directly but from GH youtube video. So again hearsay. Colby personally hasn't divulged much of value to the case as far as I can tell.

 

[Avocado49]

As som

This is something that keeps coming back and bothering me as well. Supposedly Tammy died "peacefully in her sleep" (from the obit):

Obituary for Tamara Michelle Daybell at Flamm Funeral Home

As well I have an email from AVOW and the GRI newsletter, dated October 31, which Chad Daybell authored and published, wherein he personally describes in a little more detail the circumstances surrounding her passing. I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to quote from or cite this email as it's not a MSM source, but it too paints a picture of her passing away peacefully in her sleep, much like the obituary.

Which just strikes me as really odd considering the above quoted details of Tammy coughing and vomiting that night as she went to bed, and being found on the ground as though she had fallen out of bed. This to me sounds almost as if she were really struggling, and perhaps in pain or marked distress. Or perhaps getting into or out of bed and she collapsed? Either way it just seems the "peacefully in her sleep" narrative is a little incongruent with the coughing/vomiting/falling out of bed narrative. MOO. Does that make sense?

And maybe I'm way out in left field, but I'm also wondering if perhaps the LE search of CD's house the other day may have included trying to find traces of vomit or such from Tammy's apparent sudden sickness? If there was poisoning involved would any evidence remain (say she vomited on the carpet?) after three months? Someone pointed out that one of the boxes LE had appeared to say luminol on the side - could that be used to find vomit or other bodily fluids besides blood?

as someone who has had to have my kids call 911 for me more than once due to respiratory failure - not being able to breathe wakes you up. Especially an otherwise healthy 49 year old.
I can say that suffocation (from a cough/congestion) is not peaceful at all unless you are heavily drugged.

 

[KonaHonu]

I am new to this Forum and have been reading up on all of this information but you are correct. Yes, he was a long haul truck driver it was stated in the interview that was posted that I listened to earlier today. The Gary Hughes You Tube interview.

Thanks. So depending on if he was independent or worked a regular route he could have had lots of time to do his fixer work.

 

[jjenny]

Also, being a long haul driver, 14 hours from Arizona to Idaho would be nothing to him. He could probably do it in his sleep.

 

[afitzy]

Again, the coroner in Idaho is elected. No medical pathology training necessary. They don't do autopsies. I don't think there was one done at all. I would like to see the exact quote from Tammy's father.

East Idaho article about autopsy done on Tammy after her body was exhumed:

Tammy Daybell reported a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun 10 days before her 'suspicious' death | East Idaho News

Quotes from article:

Investigators originally stated Tammy Daybell died of natural causes but later became suspicious and had her body exhumed from the Springville Evergreen Cemetery on Dec. 11. On Dec. 20, investigators said her death is possibly tied to the disappearance of two Rexburg children last seen in September.

Humphries says investigators are awaiting the results of Tami Daybell’s autopsy, which should be completed within the next few weeks.

 

[jjenny]

I know autopsy was done after she was exhumed. The question is, was anything done right after she died?

 

[Chewy1972]

I know autopsy was done after she was exhumed. The question is, was anything done right after she died?

I grew up in Rexburg and have family who still live there and have actually asked this very question.. the answer I got was this "No reason, No foul play suspected at the time, autopsy are usually done at families request unless foul play is suspected then ME has jurisdiction".

 

[Onsdag]

As som



as someone who has had to have my kids call 911 for me more than once due to respiratory failure - not being able to breathe wakes you up. Especially an otherwise healthy 49 year old.
I can say that suffocation (from a cough/congestion) is not peaceful at all unless you are heavily drugged.

Are you suggesting she may have been suffocated or suffering from respiratory failure? I haven't come across anything that would suggest this. I surely wasn't trying to suggest this in my post. Only that the two descriptions we have (both from Chad), 1) dying peacefully and silently in her sleep, and 2) coughing/hacking/vomiting/falling out of bed, seem to be somewhat conflicting.

 

[NvrEndgStry]

I didn’t see this in the media thread (I could have missed it) There’s video of the day of the shooting in July. White pick/up, small red SUV inside the crime tape (could that be Alex’s vehicle?) Dark SUV in garage.
Police investigating shooting after family fight in Chandler

 

[carbuff]

Is there an exact quote from the father on what he thinks was done?

I haven't seen anything more than what's in the time line. I thought I had read something with more detail on the sheriff's department facebook, but I can't find it now.

Ada County, which I think is Boise, has at least one forensic pathologist and services cases from the surrounding counties. Bannock County is thinking of adding one East Idaho in need of forensic pathologist - Local News 8.

It's certainly possible there wasn't an autopsy, or not an extensive one.

 

[fred&edna]

Also, being a long haul driver, 14 hours from Arizona to Idaho would be nothing to him. He could probably do it in his sleep.

And... especially if he's on a "mission" from a prophetic visionary and/or special sister!

 

[jjenny]

I grew up in Rexburg and have family who still live there and have actually asked this very question.. the answer I got was this "No reason, No foul play suspected at the time, autopsy are usually done at families request unless foul play is suspected then ME has jurisdiction".

That's why I do not believe there was an autopsy done after she died. Like you said, if no foul play is suspected, autopsy isn't done unless family wants it (and somehow I don't think Chad asked for an autopsy). Her death was assumed to be due to natural causes. I presume coroner just looked at the body and that's it.

 

[j55stand]

Yeah. But my reason for wondering about this is to ascertain whether he likely had the time and financial means to do all this henchman work. Someone said early on that Lori's (and hence Alex's) parents are wealthy. But I'd think Alex would need to have some kind of employment beyond "Lori's Angel"!

Let's say he were a private investigator, that may explain why he had a gun when visiting Lori's house.

On second thought, it's Arizona, no need for a reason to be packing all the time.

Alex had a gun because he was a murderer. No one is wealthy in the family, none of them work besides Charles that paid for everything. Lori's parents, Tylee, Colby, Alex.....22 phone lines on his cell bill all Cox family

 

[NvrEndgStry]

I think I’m good to post from Tylee’s bro?

Media Source, too

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

 

[Jankee]

Alex had a gun because he was a murderer. No one is wealthy in the family, none of them work besides Charles that paid for everything. Lori's parents, Tylee, Colby, Alex.....22 phone lines on his cell bill all Cox family

Alex carried a gun, as do a lot of American citizens. 2nd Amendment folks. Plus AZ allows open and concealed carry. In addition, Alex had a job. Can we please stick to facts and not muddy up an already confusing situation with conjecture and baseless opinions?