Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #6

[tresir2012]

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[PheonixWolf]

I wish I could have met her. She seems as wholesome of a woman as there is. And I applaud her and her family for that.

Think about it. This family has come under national scrutiny. From all directions. No one. Ever that I am aware of. Has found anything bad on Tammy. Just that she was a loving and patient and understanding and accomplished , and apparently quite smart too... wife. Wow. I am jealous!

 

[tresir2012]

Ok


ok. As a family member of a Leo. How would you feel if people wanted to know your movings, your kids routines, etc. as Leo’s are targets that info especially asked by a single man would be suspicious.

Also I apologize I referred to your spouse as ex. And thank them for his or her service for me.

Well my neighbours as I have said, we would not have allowed our kids round their houses unless we had checked them out and having their kids round ours also they could ask us/check us out we had nothing to hide. It actually is now easier to do with the internet. If these apartments did not have people staying long term, that is more difficult to check people out but Lori and Chad were public figures publishing books and podcasts. I find it quite unbelievable how they have have just vanished TBH.
Was the neighbour a single man?

 

[Mentalheadslap2018]

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Chad Daybell’s brother issues statement ‘pleading’ for him to cooperate with investigation

 

[Idaholocal]

Sorry friend. But if it’s so generic and so disconnected. What is the purpose or value?

Is this what chad and his followers tap into. A more personal and spiritual approach?
If so or not. How would that patriarch effect their life today in your opinion?

most blessings talk about education, missions, marriage, spouses, kids etc. you also get assigned a tribe of Abraham to belong to and it talks about being resurrected after living a faithful life. In some random ways they get specific (mine said specific things about what university I’d attend And a spiritual gift of faith or whatever — and sometimes it talks about language or travels etc). Some are more specific I would suppose. I guess some might mention end times. My point was the blessing and message are important in people’s lives but we aren’t connected to patriarchs, our past or present ones, except to give them generic respect but they don’t have a position of counsel or revelation for you once the blessing is done.

and yes this personal type of revelation is what they’re channeling. It’s a basic tenet of belief of institutional revelation from leaders and spiritual revelation for your life. mainstream members believe we’re living in the end times (latter-day Saints) that we can receive personal inspiration from God (which job to take how many kids to have etc) and that our ancestors can communicate with us in dreams if needed (my own family has a story like this). CD LV are just taking those basics in extreme on the spectrum ways

 

[PheonixWolf]

most blessings y’all about education, missions, marriage, spouses. In some random ways they get specific (mine said specific things about what university I’d attend And a spiritual gift of faith or whatever — and sometimes it talks about language or travels etc). Some are more specific I would suppose. My point was the blessing and message are important in people’s lives but we aren’t connected to patriarchs, our past or present ones, except to give them generic respect but they don’t have a position of counsel or revelation for you once the blessing is done.

and yes this personal type of revelation is what they’re channeling. It’s a basic tenet of belief of institutional revelation from leaders and spiritual revelation for your life. mainstream members believe we’re living in the end times (latter-day Saints) that we can receive personal inspiration from God (which job to take how many kids to have etc) and that our ancestors can communicate with us in dreams if needed (my own family has a story like this). CD LV are just taking those basics in extreme on the spectrum ways

Thank you for explaining

 

[BigAl16]

Sorry friend. But if it’s so generic and so disconnected. What is the purpose or value?

Is this what chad and his followers tap into. A more personal and spiritual approach?
If so or not. How would that patriarch effect their life today in your opinion?

I was going to comment earlier, but agree, the stake Patriarch isn't likely a person anyone is going to think of to tap into for anything. Members of bishopric, maybe some stake presidencies or high councilmen (wondering how to define them for those who don't know) who they know or look up to, maybe. I think the more personal spiritual approach you suggest is a possibility for why Chad or others like him manage to draw some. They trust them due to their church connection, but they appear to promise or even deliver more. It's the same thing that helps make MLMs and affinity fraud such a big thing in the Mormon world.

 

[Idaholocal]

What appeal would work for either of them? I am racking my brain trying to think of how to get through that ideology.

IMO it would depend on if they still believed in the authority of church leadership. If they did that might work, but they might either see them as astray or not as aware of things as they are. Either that or their followers but from what I can tell most of them buy the custody dispute angle. All that’s left after that is family.

 

[tresir2012]

Also, let us not forget that what really drew Lori to Chad, by testimony of personal friends, was - his line of Mormon teen fiction.

Mind. Blown. Like, what his teen fiction has to do with RL prophecy, or the end of the world, etc., etc. (Hint: In my world that's: Nothing).

There are some well-loved books I've read half a dozen times. I am well aware they're fiction.

The last time I recall anyone mentioning a work of fiction inspiring anyone to do anything, was reputedly Lee Harvey Oswald; so, just saying.

Reminds me also of John Lennon's killer. :-(

 

[fred&edna]

Also, let us not forget that what really drew Lori to Chad, by testimony of personal friends, was - his line of Mormon teen fiction.

Mind. Blown. Like, what his teen fiction has to do with RL prophecy, or the end of the world, etc., etc. (Hint: In my world that's: Nothing).

There are some well-loved books I've read half a dozen times. I am well aware they're fiction.

The last time I recall anyone mentioning a work of fiction inspiring anyone to do anything, was reputedly Lee Harvey Oswald; so, just saying.

Didn't JM's "Warrior Up" books feed into the (religion-related) teen fiction, also? Those books were the ones that prompted Lori and MG to create the Warrior Up podcasts.

 

[Chewy1972]

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Do not know. The great thing about Las Vegas, however, is the vast amount of high quality surveillance video that can be obtained. Hopefully law enforcement has expended some effort trying to find Melani or Alex and anyone who was with them in footage.

A friend if mine was married in Vegas and I was advised that the officiant was the one who filed her paperwork. It had to be filed within 10 days of the ceremony.

 

[Jethro4WS]

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The specific story on the East Idaho News FB page is here:
East Idaho News.com

 

[indicolite22]

The specific story on the East Idaho News FB page is here:
East Idaho News.com

Or fb search: tylee ryan rexburg police

 

[snoflake20]

What was your opinion of the warrior up one that had them both on? I think you can post your opinion of it.

Lori didn’t talk much on the Time to Warrior podcast with Chad. It was mostly Chad speaking about his visions and what would happen in the end times. He believes the United States will be invaded by “Coalition Forces” ( I don’t know who this is...) and that the Mormon youth will need to fight them, after an earthquake.

 

[PheonixWolf]

I was going to comment earlier, but agree, the stake Patriarch isn't likely a person anyone is going to think of to tap into for anything. Members of bishopric, maybe some stake presidencies or high councilmen (wondering how to define them for those who don't know) who they know or look up to, maybe. I think the more personal spiritual approach you suggest is a possibility for why Chad or others like him manage to draw some. They trust them due to their church connection, but they appear to promise or even deliver more. It's the same thing that helps make MLMs and affinity fraud such a big thing in the Mormon world.

But I mean this a a person who is suppose to tell their future. Isn’t this exactly what we are talking about with this case?

 

[andalso]

Perhaps I jumped in this thread at the wrong time, was just checking in on the case.
I am so sorry to see the kids have not been located. The land is so vast as well as the possibilities.

 

[PheonixWolf]

I am sorry if I offend some. But I am really wondering about Rexburg pd.

I know they are are all LDS and that’s fine. But when in the hell are you going to act to find these kids??

I feel if this was another agency(salt lake PD, Chicago, LA, etc) that had called in multistate and federal help. They would have had a reason and done it.

Rexburg.. we are waiting.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I am sorry if I offend some. But I am really wondering about Rexburg pd.

I know they are are all LDS and that’s fine. But when in the hell are you going to act to find these kids??

I feel if this was another agency(salt lake PD, Chicago, LA, etc) that had called in multistate and federal help. They would have had a reason and done it.

Rexburg.. we are waiting.

FBI is on the case.

 

[PheonixWolf]

FBI is on the case.

But restrained by local Pd. And authorities.

I get that the FBI is involved and appreciate that. However. The authority in this case is the Rexburg pd. They can send the fbi away if they want. This is their case. They are only asking for some help.

 

[BigAl16]

But I mean this a a person who is suppose to tell their future. Isn’t this exactly what we are talking about with this case?

Your comparison is good, in principle. In reality, my thought about a patriarch was much like the comment from, I think IdahoLocal (who I believe is an active believing Mormon and thus more in tune than I would be) when he or she said that the patriarch's are so generic in what they say and you only go to him once in what is kind of a rite of passage, but I suspect many don't take it that seriously or attribute great skills at fortune telling or seeing the future to them, regardless of what official doctrine would tell you to believe.