Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #6

[Redvines86]

Okay everyone, please stop the discussion of the LDS religion now and move on.

The POIs in this case are obviously not following the teachings of the LDS church and the continuing discussion of genuine LDS beliefs is simply not constructive in this case.

Thanks.

Friends, please, let's not get shut down. There are many things we can talk about that will be useful.

 

[Redvines86]

@RexburgSleuth, what did you mean about Chad and Lori not being together on Thanksgiving?

 

[Rush4087]

Yes, you both are correct. Someone questioned the source of the Jeep being impounded in Rexburg (in a previous thread). It was determined (by myself and others looking) that the only source for that part was a summary of the Gray Hughes family interview and there was some disagreement among members on the interpretation of what was said during that podcast. In the end, I decided to remove that detail as we are not sure if LE really has Tylee/CV's Jeep. If we get more clarity on the details about the Jeep's location at a later time (preferably a MSM source) then I will put that info back in the timeline. MOO.

Thanks for the clarification Gardner 1850. And thanks for all you do! The timelines are extremely helpful.

I had been trying to figure out how AC got from Rexburg to AZ on his final trip (apparently with a stop in LV to get married). I thought that if I could exclude the Jeep, I could possibly narrow down the remaining vehicles to: Lori's car, AC's soon-to-be wife's car, Melani's car, the white F-150 truck (registered to CV?), and CD's Avalanche. It was obviously a long shot, as we don't even know if the first three were ever in ID.

I was thinking that if AC and his soon-to-be wife did leave in one of the last two vehicles (one which was likely a packed truck?), they could have left at the same time as (or even as part of a two car caravan with) Chad & Lori. But there's no evidence to support this, and I probably should have counted to 10 before I posted.

I was just trying envision a scenario that would perhaps put Chad & Lori in AZ around the time of AC's death, as I find the circumstances of his death suspicious and think it's plausible that Chand & Lori may have had motive kill him. But there could be other explanations for AC's death. Someone recently posted that AC may have even committed suicide, which is something I hadn't even thought of.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Thanks for the clarification Gardner 1850. And thanks for all you do! The timelines are extremely helpful.

I had been trying to figure out how AC got from Rexburg to AZ on his final trip (apparently with a stop in LV to get married). I thought that if I could exclude the Jeep, I could possibly narrow down the remaining vehicles to: Lori's car, AC's soon-to-be wife's car, Melani's car, the white F-150 truck (registered to CV?), and CD's Avalanche. It was obviously a long shot, as we don't even know if the first three were ever in ID.

I was thinking that if AC and his soon-to-be wife did leave in one of the last two vehicles (one which was likely a packed truck?), they could have left at the same time as (or even as part of a two car caravan with) Chad & Lori. But there's no evidence to support this, and I probably should have counted to 10 before I posted.

I was just trying envision a scenario that would perhaps put Chad & Lori in AZ around the time of AC's death, as I find the circumstances of his death suspicious and think it's plausible that Chand & Lori may have had motive kill him. But there could be other explanations for AC's death. Someone recently posted that AC may have even committed suicide, which is something I hadn't even thought of.

Didn’t we hear it was an equinox CD drove?

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is open again.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

My apologies that some of you have received a notice that your posts were rude and personalizing when that particular reason only applied to other members / other posts. Many posts were selected and removed in one fell swoop and unfortunately the same blanket explanation went to all members whose posts were removed.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

@RexburgSleuth, what did you mean about Chad and Lori not being together on Thanksgiving?

Looks like my earlier reply got trimmed. I obviously don't know if in fact they were or were not given modern travel. I have a very MOO that they were not together. I'll elaborate because I feel I can do so safely without disclosing my identity.
I know some of the adult children were not in church on the Sunday after Thanksgiving (Dec 1) and were on a family vacation that spanned multiple days. I know from this source and other primary sources that Chad was with them during part or all of it, and that Lori did not appear to be there. JJ and Tylee were also very likely not present.

Edit: Again, I haven't seen Chad in person since October.
Also: The vacation ended Dec 1 or 2.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Didn’t we hear it was an equinox CD drove?

Correct.

 

[BigAl16]

Looks like my earlier reply got trimmed. I obviously don't know if in fact they were or were not given modern travel. I have a very MOO that they were not together. I'll elaborate because I feel I can do so safely without disclosing my identity.
I know some of the adult children were not in church on the Sunday after Thanksgiving (Dec 1) and were on a family vacation that spanned multiple days. I know from this source and other primary sources that Chad was with them during part or all of it, and that Lori did not appear to be there. JJ and Tylee were also very likely not present.

I'd offered to guess and my guess would have been close to reality.

So based on this Chad's "fleeing town" was to where ever this vacation was taking place and Lori might have headed somewhere else, possibly with others. Presumably they then meet up somewhere, but depending on the details seem more likely to, for example, have two vehicles where ever they are, as opposed to having just one.

 

[rodneymullenmg]

I think we have some chad and Lori supporters trying to deny facts and make disingenuous arguments...

 

[RexburgSleuth]

So based on this Chad's "fleeing town" was to where ever this vacation was taking place and Lori might have headed somewhere else, possibly with others.

My interpretation of the welfare check and LE looking for the missing kids is coincidentally at the same time as the planned vacation. I'm unsure how far in advance this was planned. But as LE was unable to contact, it does look like fleeing, but according to sources was a planned vacation. I'm unable to know for certain either way. Questions I still have: Were the children present at all between Tammy's death (Oct 19) and the vacation (Thanksgiving)? Did Chad actually know or not know of their location? Is Chad still alive? I hope so.

"Chad Daybell was a loving husband and has the support of his children in this matter. Lori (Vallow) Daybell is a devoted mother and resents assertions to the contrary." I interpret the lawyer's comments: Chad was a loving husband since Tammy had died, but has the support since he is still alive. And the statement that Lori is a devoted mother could mean the kids are still alive (I hope this is the case), or it could mean CR--her other son.

Presumably they then meet up somewhere, but depending on the details seem more likely to, for example, have two vehicles where ever they are, as opposed to having just one.

I can see how this would be possible.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

I think we have some chad and Lori supporters trying to deny facts and make disingenuous arguments...

If you mean me, I'm sorry, you are mistaken. I only want to know why Tammy died and where those kids are. I'm extremely puzzled and surprised by all of this. I have been fearing for my own and my family's safety from the possibility of what has been alleged and speculated.

Matt's statement gave me courage. "We want for the truth to be found – whatever that truth turns out to be."

I'm in contact with LE regarding what I know including things that are not yet known here for the reasons I just expressed. I want to share it all if it might help, but much of it is related to Tammy's death.

 

[Trask]

Looks like my earlier reply got trimmed. I obviously don't know if in fact they were or were not given modern travel. I have a very MOO that they were not together. I'll elaborate because I feel I can do so safely without disclosing my identity.
I know some of the adult children were not in church on the Sunday after Thanksgiving (Dec 1) and were on a family vacation that spanned multiple days. I know from this source and other primary sources that Chad was with them during part or all of it, and that Lori did not appear to be there. JJ and Tylee were also very likely not present.

Edit: Again, I haven't seen Chad in person since October.
Also: The vacation ended Dec 1 or 2.

Interesting! I assumed they were on the lam together, Bonnie and Clyde style. But it's possible they are both hiding out in different locations.

 

[Redvines86]

I think we have some chad and Lori supporters trying to deny facts and make disingenuous arguments...

I think there are a few, I don’t think RexburgSleuth is

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Adding another article I just saw about Charles Vallows shooting. Has pics I had not seen.

neighborhood was gated.

PHOTOS: A Chandler man called 911, said he shot his brother-in-law

 

[indicolite22]

Interesting! I assumed they were on the lam together, Bonnie and Clyde style. But it's possible they are both hiding out in different locations.

I think Lori's Rexburg neighbor only saw Lori and Alex packing up the day before the police found her place (and Alex's?) empty, so perhaps Chad did not leave at the same time or even on the same day?

 

[rodneymullenmg]

I think there are a few, I don’t think RexburgSleuth is

I never said they were.

 

[indicolite22]

I'd offered to guess and my guess would have been close to reality.

So based on this Chad's "fleeing town" was to where ever this vacation was taking place and Lori might have headed somewhere else, possibly with others. Presumably they then meet up somewhere, but depending on the details seem more likely to, for example, have two vehicles where ever they are, as opposed to having just one.

Do we know if Alex left Rexburg with Lori? Was he there when the police arrived the next day? They searched two appartments, right?

 

[Avocado49]

I think Lori's Rexburg neighbor only saw Lori and Alex packing up the day before the police found her place (and Alex's?) empty, so perhaps Chad did not leave at the same time or even on the same day?

But LE talked to Chad (or someone who said he was Chad) on Nov. 26th. The same day the neighbor saw them leave.
Or perhaps the neighbor saw Chad and Lori packing up the truck, and Alex was already on his way to Las Vegas by then.
Could the Daybell family have been vacationing in Las Vegas?

 

[Avocado49]

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