Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #7

[CSIDreamer]

Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter

Body Cam

As we've heard, Alex was the only living person on scene.

 

[fred&edna]

As we've heard, Alex was the only living person on scene.

Do you see the baseball bat?

No one has a bed except Lori?

 

[Gardener1850]

I've been trying like an idiot to get WS to load!

FWIW, I'm having issues too.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Oh my gosh. Did you guys watch the video of police body cameras?

time: was it 3:45 pm?
He says 4 shots?
Lori is gone!
Alex I think says that Lori might be in Charles car? What did he say?

 

[investigatefred]

New info via Twitter... Am I late in seeing this?!

Justin Lum Fox 10 (@jlumfox10) Tweeted:
MORE: Police say Lori’s daughter Tylee Ryan (now missing) tried to defend her mother by using a baseball bat. The report says Charles grabbed it, started swinging it and hit Cox in the head. Police say Cox then grabbed a handgun and shot Charles in “self-defense.” #fox10phoenix Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter

Edit to remove WRONG name. Ack!!!

Wooooow!! This adds quite a bit, including how they can seemingly pack up and move on a whim and frequently...they barely had any furnishings in the home. I am surprised it said Tylee was the one who swung the bat. Interesting!!

 

[BigAl16]

As we've heard, Alex was the only living person on scene.

And based on the narrative when the cop arrived that's the case, yet they talk about Lori and Tylee with Tylee now being the one who first swung the bat and Charles took it away prompting Alex to get the gun. Some of this sounds more credible than the story as we've heard it, and yet raises more questions. Did Lori really leave with Tylee and JJ after the shooting and think that was going to be okay? MOO

 

[fred&edna]

Alex says the truck belongs to home owner. He think Charles arrived in a rental car.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Do you see the baseball bat?

No one has a bed except Lori?

I didn't. Did you? I'll go back and look.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

That place looked like a wreck. No furniture. Why? Did they sell in prep for a master plan?

where was Charles’s wallet...


Secondly: prayers with family as I imagine they might be seeing this for the first time.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

And based on the narrative when the cop arrived that's the case, yet they talk about Lori and Tylee with Tylee now being the one who first swung the bat and Charles took it away prompting Alex to get the gun. Some of this sounds more credible than the story as we've heard it, and yet raises more questions. Did Lori really leave with Tylee and JJ after the shooting and think that was going to be okay? MOO

More importantly, why no mention of interviewing tylee? Is that protected?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

The timer on video doesn’t say the same time on paper report does it?

Oh my gosh. Did you guys watch the video of police body cameras?

time: was it 3:45 pm?
He says 4 shots?
Lori is gone!
Alex I think says that Lori might be in Charles car? What did he say?

 

[UnknownSleuth]

Do you see the baseball bat?

No one has a bed except Lori?

I see the bat against the wall of the (empty) living room, to the right of Charles' body. It is partially blurred out when the video blurs Charles, but part of it is in focus and you can see it is a black Rawlings bat.

I noticed no one had a bed but Lori. I figured they didn't own much furniture, with how much they were moving. I wouldn't be surprised if the sectional and even the master bedroom furniture was rental furniture or belonged to the landlord (who had been there landlord for many years at another point).

Alex says he thinks Lori left in Charles' rental car, and claims the truck belongs to her. I can't believe she left the scene with the kids! (Well, I can, but...)

If the report says Tylee used the bat, surely she was questioned? This poor girl's life...

 

[cody22]

Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter

Body Cam

Great post !......Idle Questions - Are the kids and Lori gone to school at this time ?... Where is the baseball bat Charles had before he was shot ?.......Why is there so little furniture and no wall decorations in such a big house ? They seem to be living out of travel bags and suitcases . Were they in the middle of moving to Idaho ?.......Why is that big white Ford truck backed up into the driveway instead of "pulled in straightaway?".....moo

 

[fred&edna]

Just love that Lum got this info!!!

Sad though.

And, now I have more questions.

 

[fred&edna]

I see the bat against the wall of the (empty) living room, to the right of Charles' body. It is partially blurred out when the video blurs Charles, but part of it is in focus and you can see it is a black Rawlings bat.

I noticed no one had a bed but Lori. I figured they didn't own much furniture, with how much they were moving. I wouldn't be surprised if the sectional and even the master bedroom furniture was rental furniture or belonged to the landlord (who had been there landlord for many years at another point).

Alex says he thinks Lori left in Charles' rental car, and claims the truck belongs to her. I can't believe she left the scene with the kids! (Well, I can, but...)

If the report says Tylee used the bat, surely she was questioned? This poor girl's life...

Thank you! I see it not too far from Charles's head.... Is that it?

 

[investigatefred]

Police report states "0836 hours" as time, but the body cam definitely said 15:43:11 as the time on the screen.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Great post !......Idle Questions - Are the kids and Lori gone to school at this time ?... Where is the baseball bat Charles had before he was shot ?.......Why is there so little furniture and no wall decorations in such a big house ? They seem to be living out of travel bags and suitcases . Were they in the middle of moving to Idaho ?.......Why is that big white Ford truck backed up into the driveway instead of "pulled in straightaway?".....moo

Off the cuff my theory is they backed into the driveway. I'm wondering if Lori took the kids out through the garage to another car parked next to the truck.

I dunno. Jmo

 

[BigAl16]

More importantly, why no mention of interviewing tylee? Is that protected?

Yes. I suppose there are probably other notes that aren't in what we're seeing here. I'm sure whoever gave copies of these to the news has reasons for what they chose to show and what not. What that reasoning is would probably be interesting if we could ever know, which I'm sure we can't. MOO

I think some of the concerns we had regarding the kids and what they might have seen versus what they did or didn't tell LE, takes on another level of concern with Tylee now being said to have grabbed and first swing the bat. I imagine what she told LE fit that and we're seeing the conclusion/summary based on all they heard, but if it didn't really come down as this indicates it certainly makes Tylee and potentially Alex that much more of a liability to you know who.

 

[fred&edna]

Wonder if Lum will gain access to the supplemental reports (as mentioned on pg 2)??

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Police report states "0836 hours" as time, but the body cam definitely said 15:43:11 as the time on the screen.

Maybe the cam starts when he starts driving? And it means 15 min?