Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #7

[diggndeeperstill]

I did a couple of screenshots. One of the bat, I cropped out Charles and one of the car in garage- which looks like an infinity to me? Someone tell me if they aren’t ok to share.


ETA::: I’m not convinced what car that is. I take back infinity.

 

[ur_in_a_cult]

Yes, right next to the gun bag.

I'm not familiar enough with guns to have noticed that, so good eye. But why would Alex be staying in Taylee's room? I suppose it's possible he just tossed it in there when the dispatcher told him to go outside with no weapons or just to not be holding it anymore. But if the bag was in there like you say, it suggests that's where it CAME from. Which again, that's strange to me, especially if she also had the BAT in her room (or at least close enough to grab it, if that's what happened.)

 

[fred&edna]

I can see if he expected it to be a quick exchange leaving the car running. Especially if it was already hot. Maybe he had left his wallet in the car? If this was the case, what caused an argument to ensue?

True about the car, and wallet in car. She was definitely in a hurry to leave.

I wonder when Alex arrived at the house? If he stayed over... Which floor was his bed? And, yes... What caused the argument?! Was it determined which vehicle might have been his?

 

[jjenny]

Drug OD deaths take the longest! Celebrity autopsies take forever.

In Drug OD death, there are clues at the scene such as drug paraphernalia.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

I'm not familiar enough with guns to have noticed that, so good eye. But why would Alex be staying in Taylee's room? I suppose it's possible he just tossed it in there when the dispatcher told him to go outside with no weapons or just to not be holding it anymore. But if the bag was in there like you say, it suggests that's where it CAME from. Which again, that's strange to me, especially if she also had the BAT in her room (or at least close enough to grab it, if that's what happened.)

I guess technically it's called a tactical bag, but yes, it really stood out to me since it was the only thing in the room besides a couple of pieces of clothing at the foot of the bed. Like it was the only thing Alex came with (premeditation?) . I'm not sure what would indicate that to be Tylee's room, except maybe the paint color, but this house is a rental and all of the paint in the house is atrocious, so I dont think you can go by that. I think hers is the really messy one with all the coordinating purple things. Moo.

 

[jjenny]

It's a huge house, but they have barely any furniture? Sleeping on a mattress on the floor? What gives?

 

[ur_in_a_cult]

I guess technically it's called a tactical bag, but yes, it really stood out to me since it was the only thing in the room besides a couple of pieces of clothing at the foot of the bed. Like it was the only thing Alex came with (premeditation?) . I'm not sure what would indicate that to be Tylee's room, except maybe the paint color, but this house is a rental and all of the paint in the house is atrocious, so I dont think you can go by that. I think hers is the really messy one with all the coordinating purple things. Moo.

That's fair. I was definitely going by the paint in the room. I thought the messy room was probably JJ's or maybe Alex's if he was staying there. I only noticed the paint in the room with the gun because it looks like a Sephora bag.

 

[jjenny]

Alex is walking no problem. After being hit with a bat? Charles supposedly still swinging the bat after Alex shows up with a gun? I don't think Charles had a death wish.

 

[fred&edna]

It's a huge house, but they have barely any furniture? Sleeping on a mattress on the floor? What gives?

No beds except for "the mommy"!

 

[ur_in_a_cult]

It's a huge house, but they have barely any furniture? Sleeping on a mattress on the floor? What gives?

I will say, there's a certain part of my hometown with very expensive homes. There are literally families with nothing but curtains and mattresses on the floor because the occupants can't afford to furnish the home, but want the address. If I had to guess, though, I'd say in this case it's more likely they already had plans to move set in motion.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Oh my gosh. Did you guys watch the video of police body cameras?

time: was it 3:45 pm?
He says 4 shots?
Lori is gone!
Alex I think says that Lori might be in Charles car? What did he say?

It would have been 8:45 AM local time. The timestamp is 15:45Z meaning Greenwich Mean Time or Universal Coordinated Time, There is a 7 hour time difference between Central Time and GMT or UCT.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Watching the video, I found myself looking at the background. These children had to have lived in utter chaos and almost as squatters. I am not understanding where 3 people (Lori, Tylee, JJ) go that fast when they have all witnessed this go down. Those kids have to be a mess and hysterical. Also, is Alex calm sitting on that curb? He is touching his head to bring attention to it but not flipping out that he shot a guy inside that house. MOO

 

[CSIDreamer]

Why did they need to run anywhere at that point?

Because a lot of parents would try to shield their kids from more trauma, while remaining a responsible adult. I'm guessing your kids have never been in a house with a freshly deceased person? It's tough.

 

[ur_in_a_cult]

Watching the video, I found myself looking at the background. These children had to have lived in utter chaos and almost as squatters. I am not understanding where 3 people (Lori, Tylee, JJ) go that fast when they have all witnessed this go down. Those kids have to be a mess and hysterical. Also, is Alex calm sitting on that curb? He is touching his head to bring attention to it but not flipping out that he shot a guy inside that house. MOO

I also noticed there was no blood on the towel or napkin he touches the back of his head with. Even blurred out, you'd be able to see a dark or bright spot on the white.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Right--- the place is so bare yet they have a base ball bat.... anyone see any other sports equipment in the house? (unless they keep that stuff out in the garage)

It looks like Lori was in the process of moving out of there.

 

[ur_in_a_cult]

Because a lot of parents would try to shield their kids from more trauma, while remaining a responsible adult. I'm guessing your kids have never been in a house with a freshly deceased person? It's tough.

An important point. I don't think removing the kids from the scene was weird. It's everything ELSE about it that's strange to me.

 

[fred&edna]

When did she begin renting this home? Do we know?

 

[jjenny]

Because a lot of parents would try to shield their kids from more trauma, while remaining a responsible adult. I'm guessing your kids have never been in a house with a freshly deceased person? It's tough.

Yep, and who is a more responsible an adult than Lori? No doubt she had utmost concern for the feelings of her children.

 

[tresir2012]

Watching the video, I found myself looking at the background. These children had to have lived in utter chaos and almost as squatters. I am not understanding where 3 people (Lori, Tylee, JJ) go that fast when they have all witnessed this go down. Those kids have to be a mess and hysterical. Also, is Alex calm sitting on that curb? He is touching his head to bring attention to it but not flipping out that he shot a guy inside that house. MOO

In the report it says he has a cell phone to his ear speaking to dispatch (911) I think. Did he look hurt?

 

[jjenny]

An important point. I don't think removing the kids from the scene was weird. It's everything ELSE about it that's strange to me.

Yes, no doubt Lori is very concerned with well being of the children.