Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #7

[diggndeeperstill]

DBM

 

[arizonamomoffour]

And keep in mind that Tylee was no longer in school anyway. And this would have probably been summer break for her even if she was.

Chandler Unified didn't start for another week. JJ must have been in a summer program or Autism school, there are several in the area. Tylee supposedly had her GED that summer.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Alrighty, Jethro.... What makes ya' so sure?? You gotta' know something we don't know! As always, I hope you're correct

Don't know anything more - at least I don't think so. I just can't see Tylee and JJ off somewhere with strangers and not connected to people that they know. Tylee is only 17 and JJ would be too much to deal with even if he wasn't autistic without access to people that would also know JJ and her especially as this goes longer and longer. Previous long-term LDS missing kids and parents (months in duration) cases the I have worked on WS threads all had a network of family providing money and communications. I expect the same thing going on here. It is the only way, in my mind, that Tylee and JJ are alive.

 

[Jethro4WS]

What reason do you think Tylee would have for hiding? Is she afraid of her mother? Afraid of the "end times"? I just can't fathom it.

My line of thinking is that whatever happened in that house in July has everything to do with why Tylee and JJ are being hidden. If anything, I would think it is possible that Tylee and JJ were actually witnesses to everything that occurred in the house. It is also possible that Tylee's involvement in the events are different than what Alex had to say. Knowing what Tylee had to say to investigators would tell us more. But at a minimum, knowing what Lori had to say might shed more light on what the situation may be with the kids.

 

[Rockyboy]

My line of thinking is that whatever happened in that house in July has everything to do with why Tylee and JJ are being hidden. If anything, I would think it is possible that Tylee and JJ were actually witnesses to everything that occurred in the house. It is also possible that Tylee's involvement in the events are different than what Alex had to say. Knowing what Tylee had to say to investigators would tell us more. But at a minimum, knowing what Lori had to say might shed more light on what the situation may be with the kids.

I agree. MOO, but it appears Lori was using Alex to do her dirty work. Was it Alex who shot at BB? Was it Alex who had a paintball gun in Rexburg? Did Lori want everyone gone who was in the apartment when CV was shot? Solving the issue of what happened to CV in that apartment and getting the autopsy of AC may answer a ton of questions. Lori is the common denominator of all bad things happening here including Chad’s wife dying so she can quickly marry him.

 

[jjenny]

My line of thinking is that whatever happened in that house in July has everything to do with why Tylee and JJ are being hidden. If anything, I would think it is possible that Tylee and JJ were actually witnesses to everything that occurred in the house. It is also possible that Tylee's involvement in the events are different than what Alex had to say. Knowing what Tylee had to say to investigators would tell us more. But at a minimum, knowing what Lori had to say might shed more light on what the situation may be with the kids.

Case was deemed self-defense. So Alex and Lori were in the clear. Even now, police claims they look at the case as self-defense and only keep it open to assist with missing children investigation. So there would be no reason to hide the kids over this case.

 

[jjenny]

AC states in the video he cleaned his head up ( assuming blood from the bat hit).
Has anyone seen documentation that we was attended to by the medics who arrived while he was being interviewed on the curb?
I didn’t see a lump or bump or wound of any kind within the video and ( having experience in the medical field ) can tell u head wounds bleed like crazy.

I don't see anything on the back of his head. He has sunglasses on top of his head. I also don't see any blood on his hands, as one would expect to see if Alex did CPR on a person who was shot twice in the chest.

 

[jjenny]

Can someone explain this comment?

"Moments before the shooting, Lori heard the gunshot and walked from the kitchen to the living room ...."

It's from the Justin Lum video: "Body camera shows aftermath of 2019 shooting that killed Charles Vallow"

She is a visionary and can hear things before they happen? Lol.

 

[jjenny]

This article has a summary of everything that was done to Charles prior to him being shot dead.
"If Lori is a god, it seems she is a vengeful one."
Documents detail what led up to the Vallows' divorce filing

 

[Jethro4WS]

I agree. MOO, but it appears Lori was using Alex to do her dirty work. Was it Alex who shot at BB? Was it Alex who had a paintball gun in Rexburg? Did Lori want everyone gone who was in the apartment when CV was shot? Solving the issue of what happened to CV in that apartment and getting the autopsy of AC may answer a ton of questions. Lori is the common denominator of all bad things happening here including Chad’s wife dying so she can quickly marry him.

It is rather convenient for Lori, isn't it. When it comes to the paintball gun incident I think it is likely there are more individuals than the handful we know about that are wrapped up in all of this. That may even be the case with the shooting attempt on BB. I think I may have said back on thread 1 that it is very often the case that charismatic leaders are gutless but it is the followers, more so, any true believers, that will be dangerous. It seems very possible to me that there may be one or more of those kind with a hand in these actions. If there are people that believe that if something happens to Chad or Lori and they cannot complete their mission to be wherever they are supposed to be, doing whatever they are supposed to be doing, come July 2020 then they might be willing to take actions to try to ensure that they all get to be there when Jesus doesn't show up.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Case was deemed self-defense. So Alex and Lori were in the clear. Even now, police claims they look at the case as self-defense and only keep it open to assist with missing children investigation. So there would be no reason to hide the kids over this case.

The question I have is: How does keeping Charles' case open assist in the missing children investigation? It isn't necessary. Children being missing is enough to warrant an investigation on its own. If anything, I would think that if the kids were being hidden due to what happened in July, then closing the case would be more likely to at least get the children located while keeping it open would only keep them in hiding. I get the feeling that there is something more to it.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Has anyone been able to identify the make/model of CV's rental car from the body cam of Lori and Tylee returning? I think it's the red vehicle that was parked on the street in footage of the scene after the firetrucks left-- the one we were trying to figure out earlier if it could be "Tylee's Jeep" and why it was parked across the street. I wonder what happened to that rental vehicle? Was it returned or did Lori keep it to drive and just let Charles' credit card keep paying for it after his death? At what point would the rental company try to repossess the car if no one returned it?

I wonder this too. I’ve been trying to figure out what it is. No luck yet. Here is a good screen grab of it.

eta: source

 

[Jethro4WS]

I wonder this too. I’ve been trying to figure out what it is. No luck yet. Here is a good screen grab of it.

eta: source

Chevrolet Trax, perhaps?

 

[cody22]

Chevrolet Trax, perhaps?

Yes.....moo

 

[Jankee]

I wonder this too. I’ve been trying to figure out what it is. No luck yet. Here is a good screen grab of it.

eta: source

GMC Terrain ?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

This article has a summary of everything that was done to Charles prior to him being shot dead.
"If Lori is a god, it seems she is a vengeful one."
Documents detail what led up to the Vallows' divorce filing

I’ll have to look back at the timeline but I don’t remember reading this before, from the article.


When Charles learned Lori was going to Boise with a friend, he “made attempts to serve (her) at the airport, a hotel, and a public event.” All attempts were unsuccessful, and Charles came to believe that Lori had changed her travel plans at the last minute.

Upon learning she was living with her brother in San Tan Valley, Ariz., Charles “attempted service at the brother’s house but was unsuccessful,” despite the fact that twice the server noticed both Lori and her brother’s cars were in the driveway.

.........

Was the San Tan Valley address really her brothers? Or possible other family?

 

[snoflake20]

Thanks for posting the full video! I'm just seeing this now... we finally have confirmation of what Alex does for a living...

LE: Are you working now?

Alex: Uhhhh I’m on vacation this week

LE: Well what do you do for a living?

Alex: Oh, I drive a truck!

ughhh...
LE: Are you and your sister pretty close?
Alex: Yeah! We had planned to go do something today.
LE: Oh gotcha, Ok.

 

[snoflake20]

I’ll have to look back at the timeline but I don’t remember reading this before, from the article.


When Charles learned Lori was going to Boise with a friend, he “made attempts to serve (her) at the airport, a hotel, and a public event.” All attempts were unsuccessful, and Charles came to believe that Lori had changed her travel plans at the last minute.

Upon learning she was living with her brother in San Tan Valley, Ariz., Charles “attempted service at the brother’s house but was unsuccessful,” despite the fact that twice the server noticed both Lori and her brother’s cars were in the driveway.

.........

Was the San Tan Valley address really her brothers? Or possible other family?

Feb 16 · Near Death Experiences, Dreams of Future Events, Overcoming Disappointments — Nextdoor

This event was in Boise, Idaho Feb. 16th, which I think would fit the timeline of when Charles was trying to serve Lori. Chad was speaking and also Lori's female podcasting friend.

 

[Tabirey]

Chevrolet Trax, perhaps?

My son the car guru says it's a KIA Sorrento
I have to agree with him, here's a stock photo that's spot on.

 

[Tabirey]

Here's a side by side (sort of)
Definitely a KIA Sorento