Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #8

[Colorado303]

Idle musings - The encrypted Ham Radio/Morse Code secret communications thoughts are very good ones for this "end timers" group. Also encrypted CB radio communications are possible. Did these " endtimers groups" also discuss how to obtain "false identities and false identity documents ?".......HazMat truck driver, Brother Alex knew just about all the "clean and dirty secrets" on everyone involved. Alex is now dead. Makes you wonder about him and all that barreled and bagged Hazmat material, doesn't it ? .....moo

Sure does. Makes me wonder all kinds of things. Has LE checked the disposal site? Does DS keep records of where they put containers from each drop and could they identify the containers AC delivered? Would it be possible for him to drop a couple of containers in a rogue location on the site without anyone noticing? Could he have gotten in and dumped something even after he left his job. After he left that job did he visit some other hazmat disposal site? Can anyone show up at those places and just drop stuff off?

Can barrels be scanned to see if they contain remains or do they have to be opened to be searched? Are there substances you could put in a barrel that would dissolve remains?

I imagine it would take a lot of man hours and extensive hazmat gear to keep searchers safe. Time and $$$. At what point (if any) would LE undertake such a search effort?

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Given her actions with her own children, it's hard for me to see her as someone who would want to harbor a very autonomous near-adult and a special needs child.

Never heard anyone describe Tylee this way. Is there any evidentiary support for a scenario where Tylee took her little brother into hiding because she was afraid of all the whackadoodles she was with and just has no way to let anyone know where they are? Maybe trying to survive in the woods or something?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I'm starting to wonder if they're scared to step forward. Maybe they're holding onto hope the kids are still alive and don't want to enrage Lori. Jmo.

If I was a friend of the family, I would feel free to comment on it without the investigation been compromised. I would never be called to trial, and I would feel comfortable sharing information without compromising the investigation.

If I had inside information, and I was a family member that talked to the law enforcement and something was relevant, I would never ever ever speak to the media or go on social media that might compromise the investigation or give fodder for a future defense attorney to my going on social media and influencing and telling things outside the investigation. We've seen that with a few cases and I would not want that to happen. MOO.

Perhaps that is what we are seeing?

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

Doomsday Clock nearer to apocalypse than ever

This is a bit concerning. The doomsday preppers will be ramping up the procedures.

100 seconds to Doomsday yikes :-(


"The idea began in 1947 to warn humanity of the dangers of nuclear war.

Last year the clock was set at two minutes to midnight - midnight symbolises the end of the world - the same place it was wound to in 2018."

I was just popping in to mention this. I had to dial it back on here when I began dreaming about canning apples to put in a bunker. This isn't going to help. lol. (I'm not really a prepper, but I put away a few things over the years just in case shtf.) I'm pretty sure today's announcement isn't going to help find the kids, either.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Just curious, if an LDS member is traveling can they attend services at a local Ward as a guest? If so, is that common or do most people forego services until they get back home?

Anyone, literally anyone, can attend services in any ward if they wish. Members, visitors, traveling members, etc.Whether they would want to or not, I'm not sure.

 

[UnknownSleuth]

When listening to the GH's video above again I noticed that the anonymous person that Gray corresponded with (if I understood correctly, a relation to a family member) did mention that Tylee's Jeep was found in Rexburg (also that Alex was driving it when Brandon was attacked). Previously I checked Kay Vallow's statements about the Jeep's whereabouts and she did not mention it.

This person knew a lot about Lori's family history, made claims that we had not heard from others and has their own theory about Lori's involvement in several deaths. Possibly this also speaks about the position of the (unknown) relative this person is associated with.

So we finally have a link for the jeep in Rexburg from an anonymous GH source. Did you note the timestamp?

Timestamp 1:19:20ish in this video:

. You have to parse out what is a quote from the anonymous source, and what is GH "answering" or adding onto what she says, so it's difficult. He is reading a FB Messenger exchange between himself and the source. I *think* her quote is, "Police have the Jeep now, they found it in Rexburg..." but I don't know if the next words are hers or Gray's "...up in Idaho, right were the cult members are."

 

[Colorado303]

I'm starting to wonder if they're scared to step forward. Maybe they're holding onto hope the kids are still alive and don't want to enrage Lori. Jmo.

Based on Lori’s parent’s previous tussles w/governmental authorities I bet they’re just mad and want everyone to leave them alone. Whether they know the kids are safe, believe whatever Lori is telling them or even know the kids have been harmed I don’t see them cooperating at all.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Just noting, if you go back to the marriage certificate in Vegas, you can see he used a CDL license.

Clark Records Search And Order System
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PASTENES, ZULEMA R COX, ALEXANDER LAMAR 201911290067915 11/29/2019 MARRIAGE LICENSE Fri Nov 29 2019 22:01:40 GMT-0600 (CST) AZ CDL 1/18/2021 MLIC

 

[BigAl16]

Anyone, literally anyone, can attend services in any ward if they wish. Members, visitors, traveling members, etc.Whether they would want to or not, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure if this is still the case, but I know there was a time when they had services at various places in Yellowstone National Park every Sunday through the peak visiting season. I'm not sure if it was the park service or the vendors provided the venue and I think it was more than just Mormons that did this. That way members who were working seasonal jobs would have a place to attend as well as any who were vacationing and wanted to attend. I suspect (based on other details) that there was at least a bit of a missionary intent behind these as well. I'm sure those who are saying it depends have got it right. I know my family always got drug to services somewhere when we were away from home on Sunday, whether with grandparents in their town or elsewhere.

 

[Colorado303]

I think there are several small bones in the wrist so maybe it wasn't noticeable.

So no foul play in JR death. Hopefully we should hear about Tammy next.

The autopsy didn’t convince me he wasn’t poisoned. Given the condition of the body, I’d think it’s possible a poison that acted on the heart could be missed. Since he was cremated we’ll never know for sure.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

January 23,2020

Maricopa County has released the medical examiner report for Joseph Ryan, the father of Tylee Ryan. His death is not being connected to the current investigations into the kids’ disappearance, the death of Charles Vallow, the death of Tammy Daybell, or the death of Alex Cox.










12:34 PM · Jan 23, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

@Gardener1850

I see the autopsy report, but I don't see a current statement from law enforcement where it says it is not connected? I'm just seeing the original autopsy report. Did I miss such? Can somebody link thank you

 

[Colorado303]

Anyone, literally anyone, can attend services in any ward if they wish. Members, visitors, traveling members, etc.Whether they would want to or not, I'm not sure.

Thanks. That makes me wonder, has your ward seen an increase in visitors lately? I can imagine some nosy Nellies visiting w/hopes of overhearing some gossip.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Thanks. That makes me wonder, has your ward seen an increase in visitors lately? I can imagine some nosy Nellies visiting w/hopes of overhearing some gossip.

Not that I have noticed. And I hope that doesn't happen.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I was just popping in to mention this. I had to dial it back on here when I began dreaming about canning apples to put in a bunker. This isn't going to help. lol. (I'm not really a prepper, but I put away a few things over the years just in case shtf.) I'm pretty sure today's announcement isn't going to help find the kids, either.

Today's announcement? What are you referring to

 

[BigAl16]

Not that I have noticed. And I hope that doesn't happen.

There has to be a joke about "every member a missionary" in this situation.

I can't imagine anyone attending with the thought that they were going to pick up any good gossip on this case, but if they do I'm picturing them going away disappointed.

 

[BigAl16]

Today's announcement? What are you referring to

The Doomsday Clock.

 

[tresir2012]

Timestamp 1:19:20ish in this video:

. You have to parse out what is a quote from the anonymous source, and what is GH "answering" or adding onto what she says, so it's difficult. He is reading a FB Messenger exchange between himself and the source. I *think* her quote is, "Police have the Jeep now, they found it in Rexburg..." but I don't know if the next words are hers or Gray's "...up in Idaho, right were the cult members are."

Ok thanks for the time stamp and quote. I thought @Gardener1850 may need the info for the timeline.

 

[Colorado303]

Not that I have noticed. And I hope that doesn't happen.

Me too. Some things are just sacred and that’s one of them. But some people have no shame. If congregation hasn’t already been warned, it might be worth reminding people to be careful what’s said when in earshot of folks they don’t recognize.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

The Doomsday Clock.

I'm caught up on the threads, and I don't understand what today's announcement about the Doomsday Clock is.. I know about July, but what is new today today?

I'm sorry, I must have missed something.

Link?

 

[tresir2012]

The autopsy didn’t convince me he wasn’t poisoned. Given the condition of the body, I’d think it’s possible a poison that acted on the heart could be missed. Since he was cremated we’ll never know for sure.

It mentioned arterial sclerosis and I think it said no foul play. But I did only quickly scan it. Poison would not cause arterial sclerosis would it?

It also states the manner of death as "natural".