Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #22

[Anonymous91]

I was very curious about this too..... How seriously do they believe July 2020 is the "end time", I cannot tell if they were completely confident in that, or it was just used as part of their scam so to speak?

And if they truly believe this, would they not think that all of these legal problems, and being jailed is just some form of the devil or whoever trying to stop their "mission"... Do they think armageddon will rain down and burst the bars on Lori's jail cell so that she only has to survive prison for a few more months??? Maybe that's why she wanted to be sent back to Idaho (the promised land) before it's to late?

I just can't tell how much they genuinely believed this stuff.... Either way, I personally cannot wait till that day in July comes and nothing happens! That's what's foiled many a doomsdayer in the past!

It wouldn't surprise me if they are comparing themselves to Job (of the Bible) right now. MOO

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

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"Are the kids ok?"
... and Chad shakes his head no as he says he can't comment.

moo

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

Seems pretty clear to me that CR was actually communicating with Lori pretending to be Tylee.

September 26, 2019: Edit: this date was November 26, 2019.
"At this time Lori told us that Melanie and J.V. were at the movie 'Frozen 2' so it was unlikely Melanie would answer the phone," Ball wrote.
Court documents: Lori Vallow got rid of boy's service dog, called herself 'empty-nester'
September 28, 2019:
"at the movie. I'll call you after." "Tylee" to CR
‘Everything Is A Question Mark,’ Says Brother Of Missing Siblings Tylee Ryan & JJ Vallow
(Edited my mistake) two months apart, same excuse. This makes me so angry. Moo.

 

[Rush4087]

I personally think JM has played a role as well and mentioned this many threads ago. I feel like you and I are on the same page a lot. Lol.
O/T: is your username referencing the state of New Hampshire? If so, I lived most of my life in VT. Maybe we New Englanders think similarly.

I think that on 9/19 while the babysitter was watching JJ, AC and Lori went to the airport to pick up MG for the podcast. I wondered whether JM might have come in to Rexburg then as well.

I have always felt that it was IP on the storage video on 10/2 while AC was down in Gilbert. I think AC then dropped the gun cases off when he returned to Rexburg. If however it was AC on the storage video, then I think the shooter had to have been either JM or IP (and my money's on JM). Besides AC, they are the only two candidates I can even think of. I don't think it likely that either MB or LV would have been there. Jmo

 

[fred&edna]

We have not heard much information on Alex' death other than 911 call. I don't think police has even said if they believe his death to be suspicious or not.

Has there been an obit for Alex? Did the family have a service for him or just take him to a national park hot pot and wave bye?!

 

[Sachi]

We have not heard much information on Alex' death other than 911 call. I don't think police has even said if they believe his death to be suspicious or not.

That is true, they haven't said his death was suspicious, nor has his cause of death been released publicly.

 

[raysgirl1126]

I watched it but learned nothing new. WS has the same info.

THANK YOU

 

[Picklepuck]

Am I right in thinking that the next update on MBPs court appearance will be at 9pm Arizona time? How many hours is that from now please?

I am still catching up on this thread, but I am in Phoenix area and it is currently 7:26 pm.

 

[KonaHonu]

SO here's a thought...what if BB has all the kids locked up somewhere for their own protection from this crowd?

 

[wnk]

September 26, 2019:
"At this time Lori told us that Melanie and J.V. were at the movie 'Frozen 2' so it was unlikely Melanie would answer the phone," Ball wrote.
Court documents: Lori Vallow got rid of boy's service dog, called herself 'empty-nester'
September 28, 2019:
"at the movie. I'll call you after." "Tylee" to CR
‘Everything Is A Question Mark,’ Says Brother Of Missing Siblings Tylee Ryan & JJ Vallow
Two days apart, same excuse. This makes me so angry. Moo.

The first date is November 26 (not Sept) - the day that police showed up looking for JJ. So not two days apart.

ETA: It is interesting to note that both Tues Nov 26 and Thur Sept 28 would have been school nights.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

The first date is November 26 (not Sept) - the day that police showed up looking for JJ. So not two days apart.

Oh thank you I will correct it, but still..suspicious to say the least.

 

[Picklepuck]

I hope LE or someone is checking on what he is donating. You never know what he may want to get rid of.

Maybe he absentmindedly stuffed the white piece of paper he was seen holding on Tuesday when he went to visit LVD and then went to walmart, in the pocket of his jeans, and donated them.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

So, am I crazy? I'm picturing LE laying out their case against LV as soon as LV returns from Hawaii since Idaho had to charge her with non-death penalty crimes to get HI to honor extradition. I'm picturing them having her dead to rights with premeditation on the dozen or so murders she's left in her wake (my hyperbole. We hope). It's not like Idaho, Arizona, and gosh knows where else has been sitting on their hands, tell me I'm right..........

BBM
This isn't correct and it keeps getting repeated. I'm repeating a post I made several threads ago...

I think people are conflating extradition between countries with extradition between states. States have to honor the laws of other states. The only way to fight extradition between states is if the paperwork is incorrect or to assert you aren't the right person.

The mention of life in prison and/or death penalty is only relevant with regards to bond, as felonies with those penalties are not eligible for bond in Hawaii. Lori's attorney brought it up simply to state that with the current charges she is eligible for bond. Nothing to do with the extradition itself.

 

[tealrose]

September 26, 2019:
"At this time Lori told us that Melanie and J.V. were at the movie 'Frozen 2' so it was unlikely Melanie would answer the phone," Ball wrote.
Court documents: Lori Vallow got rid of boy's service dog, called herself 'empty-nester'
September 28, 2019:
"at the movie. I'll call you after." "Tylee" to CR
‘Everything Is A Question Mark,’ Says Brother Of Missing Siblings Tylee Ryan & JJ Vallow
Two days apart, same excuse. This makes me so angry. Moo.

I think you have the wrong date there... I think the first one should be November 26th?
Otherwise, there are more problems. Because Frozen 2 wasn't in theaters til November 22nd.

 

[jjenny]

The first date is November 26 (not Sept) - the day that police showed up looking for JJ. So not two days apart.

ETA: It is interesting to note that both Tues Nov 26 and Thur Sept 28 would have been school nights.

Tylee didn't go to school. If JJ actually went to visit Melanie G., he wouldn't have gone to school either. But that's neither here nor there, because it seems clear to me Lori was using "movie' as an excuse as to why a person couldn't talk over the phone.

 

[jjenny]

BBM
This isn't correct and it keeps getting repeated. I'm repeating a post I made several threads ago...

I think people are conflating extradition between countries with extradition between states. States have to honor the laws of other states. The only way to fight extradition between states is if the paperwork is incorrect or to assert you aren't the right person.

The mention of life in prison and/or death penalty is only relevant with regards to bond, as felonies with those penalties are not eligible for bond in Hawaii. Lori's attorney brought it up simply to state that with the current charges she is eligible for bond. Nothing to do with the extradition itself.

Yea, death penalty would only become an issue if somebody went to a country such as Mexico. Mexico would not extradite unless US agrees to not ask for a death penalty. But there are countries where one could go to with no extradition treaties with US of any kind.
And last I checked, Chad was running around free as a bird.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

I think you have the wrong date there... I think the first one should be November 26th?
Otherwise, there are more problems. Because Frozen 2 wasn't in theaters til November 22nd.

Thank you, yes. I was so struck by the movie reference, that I lost track of the dates. I edited to clear it up a little.

 

[wnk]

Tylee didn't go to school. If JJ actually went to visit Melanie G., he wouldn't have gone to school either. But that's neither here nor there, because it seems clear to me Lori was using "movie' as an excuse as to why a person couldn't talk over the phone.

You're right; thanks! Both would have been after Lori pulled JJ out to homeschool him, too

 

[k-mac]

how pretty were lori's toilet paper ringlets in court today??
she really went all out with what she's got.

moo

 

[fred&edna]

Nevermind