Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #22

[Alohaj]

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Aha, and there he is. It appeared to be nighttime (dark) so was it last night? Where did he go! No welcome committee I would guess no matter where he arrives.... certainly not in Idaho!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Regarding the mirrors.

Thoughts:

Mirrors make rooms seem larger. They hadn't lived there that long. Considering the absence of furniture everywhere, I'm speculating the mirrors were in place when they moved in.

Or you know. Dance studio.

Jmo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I'm not quite following. Who are you proposing that he had an affair with?

The publicly available information seems to suggest that the Rexburg move was at least a year and maybe closer to two before Chad and Lori met.

And I'm still uncertain why Rexburg was the place to go if he wanted to have an affair. Sure it's a little further away from the eyes of extended family. But Rexburg is still a very strongly LDS community, one that would have been as concerned about an affair as any Utah community. And it's one Chad and Tammy from all accounts threw themselves into.

I think its more plausible to say that he moved to Rexburg because of what he felt his religious feelings were telling him and/or knowledge that there was an especially strong cohort of people interested in his religious ideas in the Rexburg environment.

If his motivating factor was an affair, I can think of many, many better places to move (given his strong involvement in the LDS community) than Rexburg.

Our group here has discussed these issues at great length regarding this topic of the move to Rexburg. We do not know when Chad and Lori met for sure, and even though Tammy did get a job in the Rexburg area, she had trouble with the move there originally. I feel pretty sure we had a verified individual who had known Chad who felt that Chad was not getting the recognition he wanted in Utah so after the family vacation at Island Park, CHAD decided he wanted to be in Rexburg, not Tammy. I wish someone knew how to get you back to previous threads so you can become a bid more informed on this subject... I think it would help you ...so if anyone is good at "up-threading" go for it. I am not.

 

[CSIDreamer]

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You leaving finally?

Where are the kids, bro?

 

[Kudzu]

Welcome home, Chad! I’ll bet you’ve missed potatoes.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The only Mormon I ever heard of that had a problem with autopsies is one that I believed poisoned his wife so he could be with a hot blond chick. MOO

I'm quite positive autopsies have never been a problem, cremation somewhat, and greatly affected by location. MOO

Just curious.. I understand about autopsies, and cremation...but what do you mean by location.

 

[utahobserver]

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Thanks for posting this. It was interesting to see the body language of this group. I am also puzzled by ZP presence. The marriage to AC seemed sudden. But clearly there are ties deep enough to go to court in support of MBP. This might have been to provide support for this statement (BBM) offering cover for Alex:
Pawlowski's statement replied to the allegations: “A closer look would reveal many possible sources who would take a shot at him. Melani is not one of them. As shown in the storage video, Alex Cox was in Idaho on October 2, the day of the alleged shooting.”Niece of Lori Vallow-Daybell denies allegations she knows the location of missing children

Also, has anyone read this fine piece of lawyering:Statement from Melani Pawlowski's lawyers. Quite a lot of accusations flying in this weird contentious custody battle. Hope the judge in AZ keeps the kids welfare forefront in their mind. Poor kids.

 

[janx]

You leaving finally?

Where are the kids, bro?

It's not going to get any better when he arrives back in Idaho...

 

[utahobserver]

Last night I went to a 2-hour movie, and came back to 5 solid hours' worth of thread-reading on one single case, lol.



Maybe IP was grabbed on the fly as a hostile witness for the affidavit?

I mean, the more I think about it, the more I think we're the only people saying or characterizing this as "cooperation".

Just because you get answers out of someone, doesn't mean they're collaborators, or even sympathetic to your point of view - that was the mistake I made when mentally characterizing and referring to MBP as "giving information", after the affidavit first came to light. Just because somebody gives you answers and doesn't "no comment" you, doesn't mean they're actively "cooperating".

Great reasoning!

 

[LDS social scientist]

Our group here has discussed these issues at great length regarding this topic of the move to Rexburg. We do not know when Chad and Lori met for sure, and even though Tammy did get a job in the Rexburg area, she had trouble with the move there originally. I feel pretty sure we had a verified individual who had known Chad who felt that Chad was not getting the recognition he wanted in Utah so after the family vacation at Island Park, CHAD decided he wanted to be in Rexburg, not Tammy. I wish someone knew how to get you back to previous threads so you can become a bid more informed on this subject... I think it would help you ...so if anyone is good at "up-threading" go for it. I am not.

I'm fairly certain I've read those threads, though I've only recently started posting.

I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with my earlier comment or not. What you say here and what I said there seem entirely consistent, MOO.

I was simply responding to an idea that Chad moved to Rexburg in order to more easily have an affair, and I thought that didn't square very well with the other things we seem to know.

 

[jjenny]

I hear ya. Is law enforcement absolutely sure it's the same Jeep? Many threads ago, there was a lot of confusion regarding what kind of Jeep it was. Someone made a mistake somewhere and called it a Cherokee instead of a Wrangler. So yes, it's a Wrangler, but is LE sure it's the same one?

Yes, LE is sure.

 

[janx]

Yes, LE is sure.

Thanks. It's hard to sort through this stuff.

 

[b2alicia]

Speaking of that home, does Chad still own it? Do his kids live in it?

Good question! And I don't think I know the answer. Although I might have read that his children are staying somewhere else. And yes, I believe that Chad still owns it.

 

[Redvines86]

Just curious.. I understand about autopsies, and cremation...but what do you mean by location.

I meant cremations in Utah, etc, much more unusual, although my aunt decided to be and it wasn't a big deal, so I think it's becoming a bit more accepted. In other countries where cremations are more common, then LDS people get cremated much more routinely, I think it was more cultural than doctrinal is I guess what I was getting at. MOO

 

[SiberianSleuth]

I just saw this article in Inside Edition.. I assume this is msm just like Daily Mail, correct.. Anyway finally a little discussion of Lori's earlier life!
Exclusive: Lori Vallow Daybell Went from 'Devout' Cheerleader to 'a Mystery,' High School Friend Says

Sans the yearbook she didn’t have any pictures of her friend (LV) smiling?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Interesting! I think it was mentioned somewhere at one point that they met in August of 2018, but who knows. I wish we could listen to them. I wonder if LVD mentions having kids in them. I bet LE has obtained them and listened to them. MOO

As i have probably mentioned before...it is hard for me to believe that Lori would have been as robust in her claims "of being a god etc" to Charles in Jan 2019, if she had not already been through a lot of training, learning, brainwashing...whatever we want to call it. My guess is that Chad and Lori might have had a long "pen pal" relationship before meeting. Many an affair starts this way........

 

[CSIDreamer]

Good question! And I don't think I know the answer. Although I might have read that his children are staying somewhere else. And yes, I believe that Chad still owns it.

He seriously needs to pay his property taxes! Jmo

 

[meanmaryjean]

It's not going to get any better when he arrives back in Idaho...

Are we sure that's where he's going?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I must say I am confused, is it people like us on an online forum that are going to help find Tylee and JJ and will help solve murders and suspicious deaths?

Aren’t we just discussing and ruminating on possibilities, Or has Websleuths actively solved crimes in the past? Or found lost persons? I’m not being sarcastic I seriously am asking.

I’ve also noticed that only certain people are “called out” for going on tangents & off topic,while others are free to post silly stuff about Harry Potter, making negative comments about suspects looks, etc. I’m really confused. Maybe some long timers on here can clarify?

thanks

I can't really address your questions, but I would encourage re-reading the Terms of Service. I think that will help you.

 

[janx]

Good question! And I don't think I know the answer. Although I might have read that his children are staying somewhere else. And yes, I believe that Chad still owns it.

I got an answer upthread: two kids are there as well as one kid's spouse. We'll have to see if he shows up there.