Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #25

[jjenny]

It's possible that LVD may be very confused about how Life insurance policies work.

She seems to think, just because she has JJ, that she is somehow entitled to the Life insurance money. Somehow, she has linked JJ and the Life Insurance together.

MOO

I don't think Lori is confused about life insurance. She was a beneficiary until Charles changed the beneficiary to his sister. Charles didn't want Lori to know that he removed Lori as a beneficiary. So obviously she expected to get Charles' life insurance until she found out he changed the beneficiary. There is nothing confusing about that.

 

[Anonymous91]

Can't she smite anyone who gives her attitude?

MOO

You mean something like this:

“So It Is True, I Walk A Darker Path.”

 

[Gardener1850]

Body found on Blackfeet Indian Reservation Tuesday morning

No sure if it is related though

I don't think that is likely to be JJ and Tylee, but thanks for letting us know. There is a woman named Ashley missing from there since 2017: MT - MT - Ashley Loring-HeavyRunner, 20, Browning, 5 June 2017

No matter who it is, that is someone's loved one who has been found. My thoughts and prayers are with that family.

 

[Sachi]

TH

Well @Sachi JJ has two very loving grandparents who are in Idaho waiting to see Lori in court tomorrow. Poor Tylee is a young woman who really deserves a future that compensates for the neglect she seems to have grown up in; she reportedly really looked out for JJ which IMO is really sweet, especially if she wasn't really getting her own needs met. The kids big brother CR apparently loves both of them and has been a presence in their lives. This is heartbreaking, these kids are so great. The picture of JJ with his therapy dog is beautiful.

The two I was speaking of were Chad and Lori, certainly not Tylee and JJ, grandparents or CR. Sorry, looking back my sentence was a bit screwy. My thoughts were about those close to Chad or Lori that may have knowledge of these bizarre deaths and info about where Tylee and JJ are.

 

[Anonymous91]

IMO, if my grandson was with his non-blood related stepmother, who had recently abandoned the family for a few months earlier in the year, had potentially been having an affair, and now, had been involved in some way with the death of her husband / my brother, self defense or otherwise, I would be talking very seriously with Lori about the possibility of raising my grandchild, even in the most innocent of circumstances. It is not a stretch to me to see that being in the woodcocks mind. Who wouldn’t at least consider that in similar circumstances?

Add to that the way CV died. From what we have learned so far, I am 100% convinced he was murdered, and that it was premeditated. CV and KW are brother & sister, she would have immediately known that the whole self defense was a bold faced lie.

I have respect for the Woodcocks, because I would not have been able to handle it as well as they have. If I was in KW's shoes, I'd be doing whatever it took to get those kids away from her. Once you know that LVD and AC were killers, all bets are off. JMO

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Yeah, there are a ton, that's why I was hoping Utahutah or others maybe lurking here, could narrow it down to the area's actually used by Chads Prepper group.

i think you mean idaidaidaho... but you got the repetitive part!!

 

[lacegrl130]

Why does Madison County have her checked in as Vallow? She never changed her legal name to Daybell? Daybell shouldn't be an alias if she's legally married, unless she wanted to keep the Vallow name. That's very doubtful, IMO. I confused.

She would need to change her SS card to officially change her name. I just went through this with my sister who never got a new ss card after her first divorce and what a can of worms that was!

 

[Anonymous91]

In retrospect, it was a massive run on sentence. Perhaps I should avoid a future writing career.

Don't sell yourself short. Go to Amazon, read any of the top free 100 e-books.

What you will soon discover, is that most of these authors, don't write well either. Yet some of these writers make a lot of money selling their books.

In fact, one writer that I read her story, had been attempting to get published traditionally for years, she kept getting turned down. By the time she found out about Amazon's e-book option, she had written over 20 books. All 20 books were in the "Zombie" sub-genre. She uploaded them, and made over a Million dollars her first year. Inspiring story, for anyone looking to become published.

Apparently Chad is one too. Reading his book reviews lately, there seems to be one major question everyone has: Where's the Kids, Chad?

MOO

 

[Pax10]

I followed this case for a bit, but it seems like a lot of discussion has happened. I may have missed something. What would be the logic on going to jail but not producing the kids, if you were able?

 

[Anonymous91]

Lori hired three new lawyers. I guess one is not good enough for her. Who is going to pay for all these lawyers? Three lawyers don't come cheap. Is she expecting Tammy's life insurance money to pay for it?
"REXBURG – Lori Vallow-Daybell has hired three new attorneys to represent her. She is also asking for a reduction of her $5 million bond."
Lori Vallow-Daybell hires three new attorneys

Boy, if reality doesn't hit Chad, the bills sure will.

 

[Nurse Gen]

TH


The two I was speaking of were Chad and Lori, certainly not Tylee and JJ, grandparents or CR. Sorry, looking back my sentence was a bit screwy. My thoughts were about those close to Chad or Lori that may have knowledge of these bizarre deaths and info about where Tylee and JJ are.

No worries! Look how many times I really really said the word really ;-)
I get you completely. Those two kids are adorable, really (uh oh) nice little people and it's got wrenching that they are missing

 

[Ohmeohmy]

DBM

 

[Gardener1850]

It's possible that LVD may be very confused about how Life insurance policies work.

She seems to think, just because she has JJ, that she is somehow entitled to the Life insurance money. Somehow, she has linked JJ and the Life Insurance together.

MOO

It's possible that it worked that way with Tylee and her dad Joe Ryan. We don't know if Joe had life insurance but we heard from a family insider on Gray Hughes that somehow Lori got $70,000 after Joe's death. If Tylee was the beneficiary then Lori might have been able to control the money due to Tylee being a minor. But by the time she sent that text to Kay about "5 children and no money, and his sister gets everything" Lori had seen the change of beneficiary form (which she sent in the text to Kay) and she should have understood how it was going to work. MOO.

 

[Hrh_LadyJ]

(Ok, Nevermind that I'm confused about how Chad would make significant increases to Tammy's life insurance policies...)I know that I would certainly make significant increases to my husband's life insurance policies (if that is a thing?) if I received multiple visions about his early death.

Chad with his visions of Tammy's death, and Lori's comment to her friend April? (was that her name) about CV being first dead, then having a demon and will be dead "Any day now" did those comments happen roughly at the same time?

From what I was thinking time wise:
We have the supposed November 2018 trip to AZ, where Chad (who spoke at a convention there)and Lori met up (the note CV found stated CD stayed in their guestroom, but prob not true).

Then the message Chad sent to Lori in Dec. 2018 w/ the "7 missions" they must complete together.

Next Jan. 2019 CV confronts Lori/ tries to get her help, (some sources say institutionalized) for her "Paranoia" (mentioned in CV's message to BB and AdamC)
As a result Lori flee's AZ with Tylee, leaving behind JJ (CV can't believe she abandoned the boy).

Early feb. or late Jan. 2019, Lori claims she's getting a divorce because CV is Abusive and is first dead, then dying from the 'Demon' inside. Say's she expects a call any day now..... eventually CV convinces LV to come back and work on it... CV is treated like he has a scarlet letter for trying to help Lori by many of her family... but a few take his side (AdC and BB).

(I'm not completely clear if it was this time frame where Lori made the threat to CV about murdering him, and angels disposing his body? If so it's another publicly known death threat)

All that said was it in January 2019 when Chad started claiming TD was going to die?? If so it just seems like a little to much of a coincidence that Lori was also claiming hubby would be dead, like an #8 on their dual "Mission List".

Hello PRE-MEDITATION!
MOO.

 

[Sorelle19]

Question: There’s been a lot of talk about CV’s life insurance policy. What about his estate? Would think that if he and LV were still married, she would be entitled to it, i.e., properties, 401k, etc. Even if she was written out of a will, would think her rights as a spouse of 10+ years would still prevail.

 

[Gardener1850]

I followed this case for a bit, but it seems like a lot of discussion has happened. I may have missed something. What would be the logic on going to jail but not producing the kids, if you were able?

You haven't missed a thing. There's no logic to it at all IMHO. If Lori could produce the kids, she would. Producing the kids alive and well would be her ticket out of jail. Even a criminal defense attorney said so recently (BBM):

Criminal defense attorney Greg Skordas, who is not connected to the case, said he is skeptical Daybell and Vallow are trying to protect the children from a custody battle.

“Lori’s in custody right now. She’s had every opportunity to get out of jail, she has the keys to the jail in her pocket just produce the kids and she won’t do that,” he said. “That leads me to think she can’t produce the children and that is a very sad consequence. If she can’t produce the children, there’s only one reason and that’s because they’re unavailable.”

Chad Daybell Expected To Speak About Missing Children Case Soon, Associate Says

 

[Nurse Gen]

You haven't missed a thing. There's no logic to it at all IMHO. If Lori could produce the kids, she would. Producing the kids alive and well would be her ticket out of jail. Even a criminal defense attorney said so recently (BBM):

Criminal defense attorney Greg Skordas, who is not connected to the case, said he is skeptical Daybell and Vallow are trying to protect the children from a custody battle.

“Lori’s in custody right now. She’s had every opportunity to get out of jail, she has the keys to the jail in her pocket just produce the kids and she won’t do that,” he said. “That leads me to think she can’t produce the children and that is a very sad consequence. If she can’t produce the children, there’s only one reason and that’s because they’re unavailable.”

Chad Daybell Expected To Speak About Missing Children Case Soon, Associate Says

@Gardener1850 Tricia just praised you to the sky on her Webcast and also several of us chimed in on how awesome you are (in our opinion)
Thank you for your brilliant work and the Timeline that keeps us from going off the rails

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Thanks. It's already in the timeline I posted last week: ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

Sorry I looked at the one linked on page one. It must’ve been the wrong one.

 

[tealrose]

A week is pretty fast to just happen to meet someone and decide to get married.

Especially when lots of people are aware one already knew the person, and there are even podcasts for proof, lol.

 

[Pax10]

You haven't missed a thing. There's no logic to it at all IMHO. If Lori could produce the kids, she would. Producing the kids alive and well would be her ticket out of jail. Even a criminal defense attorney said so recently (BBM):

Criminal defense attorney Greg Skordas, who is not connected to the case, said he is skeptical Daybell and Vallow are trying to protect the children from a custody battle.

“Lori’s in custody right now. She’s had every opportunity to get out of jail, she has the keys to the jail in her pocket just produce the kids and she won’t do that,” he said. “That leads me to think she can’t produce the children and that is a very sad consequence. If she can’t produce the children, there’s only one reason and that’s because they’re unavailable.”

Chad Daybell Expected To Speak About Missing Children Case Soon, Associate Says

Thanks. That's about what I was thinking, unfortunately.