Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #25

[Hrh_LadyJ]

Right. A place like this isn't an issue. Close to a temple, probably not super close, but probably close enough. The most difficult issue I see is find such a place where the winter weather wouldn't create issues. Like the BLM land mentioned here, putting up structures and such to be able to get out of the weather, some way of heating them (with the probably need for lots of fire wood and kicking out lots of smoke from the fires), and being in a position to be able to get in and out if needed (if you never leave, nearness to a temple is a total non-issue) would be problematic.

But having said that, I can imagine a cave down a canyon that is rarely entered, even in summer, off the beaten path, but can be reached using snowmobiles (the leader of AVOW also has a site aimed at snowmobilers), means we can't totally rule this out.

Oh that's excellent! Actually it would make perfect sense in my mind that they would want private property owned by someone they entirely trust, and would already have such a hatred towards "big gov." along with the same belief system like the AVOW dude. Is this the same guy who Chad is currently staying with, possibly picked him up?

I think it would be a huge help to locate any property deeds in the area that that guy owns, and then google earth them.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Chad Daybell Expected To Speak About Missing Children Case Soon, Associate Says

OMG, that Parrett dude is SO WEIRD... what a pile of tripe!

For example, WTF is "a death settlement"???!?

I'm pretty sure, there is a "life insurance settlement"; and there is a "wrongful death settlement"; but I don't think Parrett really intends that we should go in the latter direction because if anyone were getting a "wrongful death settlement" in respect of CV, it would be because and from the estate of Alex Cox; so that then brings us to...

-paragraphs and paragraphs of word-spew about how KVW should be offering this "death settlement" as a reward for information leading to the location of JJ and Tylee???!!?

Why, CP???

Do your adorable super-sekrit friends Chad and Lori want to cash in on it? Is that the problem??

I'm starting to think that's what LVD means. She'll trade a million dollars for the kids' whereabouts.

Except I'm pretty sure that people in prison, or out of it for that matter, can't exactly do anything of the kind; because that would be extortion.

Literally nothing that letter said in Chad and Lori's "defense" made a whit of sense, because the person who put that letter/missive together, doesn't know how words work together.

There is literally no such thing as a "death settlement", without the word "wrongful" preceding it; at least according to my Internet searches.

None.

 

[Gardener1850]

Right?!! I’m so confused how long she could have actually been in Kauai now too. We now Colby said she was at his daughters birth in Early Feb, and this conference too. Back and forth to Kauai?

I left the date on when Lori came to the hospital to meet her granddaughter somewhat open because I think it might not have been on the same day the baby was born. Colby didn't elaborate on this in his interview but there are some rumblings elsewhere that we can't discuss. My speculation only is that his baby might have had a long stay in the NICU at birth. If I'm right on this theory (I have no idea if I am) then that would mean his baby was born in Feb 2019 and Lori could have come to see her in the hospital at a later date, even as late as March 2019. If anyone has a MSM quote from Colby saying it was on the same day she was born, let me know. I can't go back and watch his interview right now: RAW INTERVIEW: Full 42 minutes with Colby Ryan

MOO.

 

[securitynerd]

Can they know that without also knowing where the bodies are? In the case of Tylee the search they've indicated is going to happen of Yellowstone would seem to indicate they're sure she didn't leave Yellowstone (or at least have a high degree of certainty that she didn't leave Yellowstone alive with LV and AC). But even there it seems there are some unlikely scenarios where she might be alive. JJ, unless they know a lot more than indicated in the charges, they can't really narrow things down much, with a period of almost 2 months when he wasn't seen, but could have been around. Certainly being with someone else is possible.

My point is that while I'm afraid you're right, that the kids aren't alive, I don't think LE has the proof of that, nor do I think they can be sure enough to ignore the possibility that they are alive. I can see that they might think that if they are alive odds are that if they've made it safely this long that this isn't going to change. Seems like a bit of a gamble, but maybe justifiable.

If they really do know they are no longer living then presumably they have whatever evidence is available, if any, to show how they died. It would make sense to make sure their case against those responsible be as airtight and complete as possible before committing themselves with an arrest for that person or persons. MOO

I think they have enough that a reasonable person would conclude they aren't alive. Such as lack of monetary support(financial records), no checking (phone record) and no record of the kids anywhere.

I also think there's more to Yellowstone than they let on. Data would place them there, searches will confirm how, no contact since. Sometimes it is the lack of evidence that proves the allegation.

 

[Christ is Truth]

Indeed I did!!
This case is frying my brain... and keeping at this website until the wee hrs every night!
Help we need an emergency meeting of the DARG!

BTW: Don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but the glasses Lori was wearing in court today were an interesting touch... My guess is either her Lawyer advised her to do this, to look a bit more demur and motherly (yes, lawyers do tell their clients how to dress/appear in court) OR it's straight up vanity on Lori's part b/c the glasses mask her major eye bags! JMO

Her body language was soooo self righteous and obnoxious today, I caught a few screen caps of some of her more overtly arrogant and evil glares (apologies if a ton of images have already been posted, and for the visible play button which I couldn't remove). But, just LOOK at her:
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IMO the jail store probably ran out of her particular brand of contacts.

 

[Gardener1850]

OMG, that Parrett dude is SO WEIRD... what a pile of tripe!

For example, WTF is "a death settlement"???!?

I'm pretty sure, there is a "life insurance settlement"; and there is a "wrongful death settlement"; but I don't think Parrett really intends that we should go in the latter direction because if anyone were getting a "wrongful death settlement" in respect of CV, it would be because and from the estate of Alex Cox; so that then brings us to...

-paragraphs and paragraphs of word-spew about how KVW should be offering this "death settlement" as a reward for information leading to the location of JJ and Tylee???!!?

Why, CP???

Do your adorable super-sekrit friends Chad and Lori want to cash in on it? Is that the problem??

I'm starting to think that's what LVD means. She'll trade a million dollars for the kids' whereabouts.

Except I'm pretty sure that people in prison, or out of it for that matter, can't exactly do anything of the kind; because that would be extortion.

Literally nothing that letter said in Chad and Lori's "defense" made a whit of sense, because the person who put that letter/missive together, doesn't know how words work together.

There is literally no such thing as a "death settlement", without the word "wrongful" preceding it; at least according to my Internet searches.

None.

Hmmmm. I have scanned through that post by CP multiple times and only just now noticed that he says Kay has "millions" (plural) from a "death settlement". CV's life insurance policy was only for $1 Million. What in tarnation is CP talking about?

 

[Bazinga]

Lori hired three new lawyers. I guess one is not good enough for her. Who is going to pay for all these lawyers? Three lawyers don't come cheap. Is she expecting Tammy's life insurance money to pay for it?
"REXBURG – Lori Vallow-Daybell has hired three new attorneys to represent her. She is also asking for a reduction of her $5 million bond."
Lori Vallow-Daybell hires three new attorneys

I recommend having a good look at the website of one of her attorneys, Means Law. It's hilarious. Also check the "about" section with "our story".

 

[BlueberryPumpkin]

I'm new here and had to join because this case is doing my head in but I can't talk to anyone about it because nobody I know has heard of it.

So here's my two cents worth:

1. Obviously Tylee, at least, is dead. If she was in any kind of position to know about the case, surely she would have tried to clear her mother's name? These days, it would be pretty hard to isolate someone so much that they didn't know they were missing.

2. Everything claims that at the welfare check on JJ, Alex Cox lied and said JJ was with his grandparents. Is it possible that he believed that? Maybe he had nothing to do with JJ's death (and possibly Tylee's) and after the police came he started asking questions, making trouble, and that's why he died like two weeks later?

Just killing him because he'd "outlived his usefulness" doesn't make as much sense to me.

 

[Hrh_LadyJ]

Can they know that without also knowing where the bodies are? In the case of Tylee the search they've indicated is going to happen of Yellowstone would seem to indicate they're sure she didn't leave Yellowstone (or at least have a high degree of certainty that she didn't leave Yellowstone alive with LV and AC). But even there it seems there are some unlikely scenarios where she might be alive. JJ, unless they know a lot more than indicated in the charges, they can't really narrow things down much, with a period of almost 2 months when he wasn't seen, but could have been around. Certainly being with someone else is possible.

My point is that while I'm afraid you're right, that the kids aren't alive, I don't think LE has the proof of that, nor do I think they can be sure enough to ignore the possibility that they are alive. I can see that they might think that if they are alive odds are that if they've made it safely this long that this isn't going to change. Seems like a bit of a gamble, but maybe justifiable.

If they really do know they are no longer living then presumably they have whatever evidence is available, if any, to show how they died. It would make sense to make sure their case against those responsible be as airtight and complete as possible before committing themselves with an arrest for that person or persons. MOO

True, but they also may have some sort of confession from say MB or her husband simply saying, "I know the kids are dead, but I don't know what LV/CD/AC did with the bodies" or could have found a text/email to that affect.

It seems like a logical step to search Tylees last known location either way, at the very least b/c as far as we know, no one is openly giving information into their whereabouts.

 

[Christ is Truth]

I recommend having a good look at the website of one of her attorneys, Means Law. It's hilarious. Also check the "about" section with "our story".

Lori obviously didn’t do her research. This company specializes in everything but criminal law, and they failed to proofread their story. Sloppy website=sloppy representation. MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

I recommend having a good look at the website of one of her attorneys, Means Law. It's hilarious. Also check the "about" section with "our story".

Is this the lawyer's website? Means-Law Attorney

 

[Christ is Truth]

Is this the lawyer's website? Means-Law Attorney

That’s it!

 

[Gardener1850]

That’s it!

It looks fake... and poorly written/poorly organized.
At the very least, they need to fire their website designer.
It also reminds me of the AVOW website for some reason.


MOO.

 

[Hrh_LadyJ]

OMG, that Parrett dude is SO WEIRD... what a pile of tripe!

For example, WTF is "a death settlement"???!?

I'm pretty sure, there is a "life insurance settlement"; and there is a "wrongful death settlement"; but I don't think Parrett really intends that we should go in the latter direction because if anyone were getting a "wrongful death settlement" in respect of CV, it would be because and from the estate of Alex Cox; so that then brings us to...

-paragraphs and paragraphs of word-spew about how KVW should be offering this "death settlement" as a reward for information leading to the location of JJ and Tylee???!!?

Why, CP???

Do your adorable super-sekrit friends Chad and Lori want to cash in on it? Is that the problem??

I'm starting to think that's what LVD means. She'll trade a million dollars for the kids' whereabouts.

Except I'm pretty sure that people in prison, or out of it for that matter, can't exactly do anything of the kind; because that would be extortion.

Literally nothing that letter said in Chad and Lori's "defense" made a whit of sense, because the person who put that letter/missive together, doesn't know how words work together.

There is literally no such thing as a "death settlement", without the word "wrongful" preceding it; at least according to my Internet searches.

None.

It's straight up extortion, and not just disgusting as it relates to two missing children but also criminal!

Where are the "safe" kids, CP??? God these people are so VILE!

 

[Anonymous91]

It looks fake... and poorly written/poorly organized.
At the very least, they need to fire their website designer.
It also reminds me of the AVOW website for some reason.


MOO.

Their website looks horrible. It looks like a copy/paste with a free web theme.

It has more of a "get rich quick" vibe than it does a legitimate Law Site.
This looks like it took someone about 5 minutes to throw up.

If they paid anything for this, they got ripped off. They have broken links everywhere. Copyright hasn't been updated since 2015. This is an absolute abomination of a website. I would be embarrassed to have this site.

Ugly website, I get the feeling that they are out to take your money and run.
Hopefully, their performance in court, mirrors their website.
Wait a minute, I like that idea. Take LVD & CD's money and run.

MOO

 

[TLG127]

Hi everyone, I am new here. Been watching for a while, but my 1 St post. I don't know if this has been addressed or not. Is it possible, since her new attorney just filed today, hearing is now an arraignment on Mar 6, to lower bond, that if not lowered, from my searches, on bonds, family and friends whoever, can actually put there property or anything of value they own to post the 5 million. If that happens, could she actually be let out Friday? I am assuming a stipulation for motoring bracket also would be required. I am just so freaked out that she could possible get out of jail, her smug face today, maybe she has people with equity to actually post this 5 mil, bond for her and knows it? Please tell me this cannot happen anyone? TX u.

 

[Hrh_LadyJ]

IMO the jail store probably ran out of her particular brand of contacts.

IDK, I've never seen her wearing glasses... and believe me I've done a whole lot of image searches on her... even in her HS pics. It's possible that she's worn contacts for yrs... I can see her vanity wanting that, and she has blue eyes which are supposedly weaker and do need glasses eventually ( I too have blue eyes and that's what my eye doctor told me anyway).

But I really think it was done deliberately, to give off or hide an image. JMO.

 

[Anonymous91]

Their website looks horrible. It looks like a copy/paste with a free web theme.

It has more of a "get rich quick" vibe than it does a legitimate Law Site.
This looks like it took someone about 5 minutes to throw up.

If they paid anything for this, they got ripped off. They have broken links everywhere. Copyright hasn't been updated since 2015. This is an absolute abomination of a website. I would be embarrassed to have this site.

Ugly website, I get the feeling that they are out to take your money and run.
Hopefully, their performance in court, mirrors their website.
Wait a minute, I like that idea. Take LVD & CD's money and run.

MOO

This should be entertaining. You can read about Lori's new Lawyer here. Apparently there are a few people that are not too happy with him.

I feel better already: https://www.avvo.com/attorneys/83642-id-mark-means-4433178/reviews.html

So far, this is my favorite line: "He even apologized to the judge once for what he was wearing."

This ought to be fun to watch.

MOO

 

[Bazinga]

Lori obviously didn’t do her research. This company specializes in everything but criminal law, and they failed to proofread their story. Sloppy website=sloppy representation. MOO

Yes that was my rather "mean" interpretation. No proofreading of the text on their website. And the bus! Goodness.

 

[Vegasgrl]

Hi everyone, I am new here. Been watching for a while, but my 1 St post. I don't know if this has been addressed or not. Is it possible, since her new attorney just filed today, hearing is now an arraignment on Mar 6, to lower bond, that if not lowered, from my searches, on bonds, family and friends whoever, can actually put there property or anything of value they own to post the 5 million. If that happens, could she actually be let out Friday? I am assuming a stipulation for motoring bracket also would be required. I am just so freaked out that she could possible get out of jail, her smug face today, maybe she has people with equity to actually post this 5 mil, bond for her and knows it? Please tell me this cannot happen anyone? TX u.

Welcome! Hopefully there will be additional charges and she will never be free again.