Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #28

[Alpha Bravo]

He said him AND Edwina, right? So the pitbull in heels is pulling as her lawyer too?

Yep, they tucked tail and run, with a whimper! ha ha. Lori needs to drop the tall green and get a real lawyer. Break out the checkbook!

 

[Tortoise]

Eric Grossarth - Reporter
3 mins ·
On the phone at Friday’s hearing were Means and defense attorney Brian Webb. During the call, Webb said he planned to withdraw as one of Daybell’s attorneys. It remains unclear if Edwina Elcox, who works under Webb’s law firm, will also withdraw.

REXBURG — Lori Vallow Daybell’s court case will see a new magistrate judge and a change in her legal team after a hearing held by phone Friday afternoon. Earlier this week, defense attorney Mark Means filed paperwork asking that Judge Farren Eddins no longer preside over the case. A reason was n...

 

[Tortoise]

Judge removes himself from case as one of Lori Vallow Daybell's attorneys plans to do the same | East Idaho News

The move came after Eddins approved the preliminary hearing to be held May 7 and 8 (instead of the previously scheduled March 18 and 19) at the Madison County Courthouse.

For more details on the legal proceedings, listen to the call in the video player above.


Daybell remains in the Madison County Jail on a $1 million bond and was not present at the hearing.

 

[tresir2012]

Some questions I have about this case - Can anyone say where all this multiple mortal probations, translated beings, visions, angels, that Lori and MBP were promoting actually originated from? Was it Chad saying this or someone else they were following? I have read that the cult had conferences on how to have better visions and dreams and stuff like that. Is this allowed in the mainstream LDS church? Also, how does a regular LDS churchgoer come by a temple recommend and what percentage of LDS have one? Can only LDS with a temple recommend enter the temple?

 

[utahobserver]

Video of Judge disqualifying himself... Oh and then Webb and Edwina beg to withdraw too, legal motion coming soon... drops it on the judge about 3:41... Uh, yeah, Im, I'm .... Jaw drop by the judge!

WOW that was quicker than I thought! They heard about the LEA posse in SLC including the feds and they went *pfft*

Also, one can imagine the barf Lori serves up, only to be proven a full blown liar the next day. Boy, she's a pesky little client!

He said him AND Edwina, right? So the pitbull in heels is pulling as her lawyer too?

That's what I heard Webb say, 'my firm' and then it sounds like Edwina but I didn't hear her surname mentioned which is Elcox, which I find strange, for her to be referred to by first name. It's around 3:50 in the video if anyone wants to listen and see if what he said can be worked out.

"It remains unclear if Edwina Elcox, who works under Webb’s law firm, will also withdraw." Judge removes himself from case as one of Lori Vallow Daybell's attorneys plans to do the same | East Idaho News

 

[cb73]

So the judge is gone and two of her three lawyers are leaving?

I'm certainly not up on court cases--but is this common?

 

[alexwood]

Don't know about Tammy's car, suspect the family still has it. IRT to Webb withdrawing, so is his associate "Edwina the Pit bull attorney" BTW I think she is a bit young for that moniker, and surprised they blew out this fast, though I didnt think they would make it past the May hearing.

The pending charges that we suspect are coming may turn into a stampede!

Agree with you, Alpha Bravo. She doesn't look old enough yet to wear heels.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Thank you, I must have missed that, Orbitz wasn't focused if I did read it. Interesting that I saw about an hour ago, a retweet from Justin (original tweet by Jillianna Colina) saying that Judge Eddins "granted motion to disqualify himself without cause", which essentially sounds like he allowed the original request by MM that Mr. Woods said was not filed in a timely manner.
Jilliana Colina on Twitter

Listening to the judge now, he is saying the motion to remove without cause was timely for a "contested proceeding" but not a "contested motion" and the statute has both listed. It sounds to me he thinks it is faster, easier, and erring on the side of the defense to just grant the motion to remove without cause and get on with the show rather than argue the wording in the statute.

 

[tresir2012]

MG and JM live in AZ. I don't know if they were there, but it would be a bit unusual if they showed up to Tammy's Idaho memorial service, which was held on a Wednesday, with such short notice (Tammy died Sat Oct 19th, Utah Funeral was Tues Oct 22, ID Memorial was Wed Oct 23). MOO.

Was JR at the memorial? I would have expected it if she was close to Chad's daughter as she has explained.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

That’s what I thought too. Webb didn’t say, “I will..” He said “We will..” WOW! Did they bite off more than they can chew or was it a financial decision? I’m not sure but am leaning a little towards financial.

Just a guess, maybe they didn't anticipate fielding phone calls 24 hours a day from news organizations all over the world asking for updates and interviews.

More money for Means, hopefully he can hire someone to work on his website.

 

[raja]

Lori may need bigger guns than the attorney's she has now. I am sure there are lawyers that work with Federal Charges which I think are in her picture soon.

 

[AZlawyer]

Plain English translation of what the judge said about the motion to disqualify (in the video posted somewhere above):

He tried to figure out if the bond proceeding counted as a “contested proceeding” under Idaho law. (If it WAS a “contested proceeding,” the “without cause” motion was filed too late and some other judge would have to consider the “with cause” motion.) He did a lot of research but couldn’t come up with any crystal clear answer. So he decided to “err on the side of caution” and just grant the motion to disqualify without cause. So there will be a new judge and the “with cause” motion is moot.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Attorneys Webb and Elcox are from the same firm, aren't they? It sounds more like that firm is no longer representing her. And I agree, those with federal experience are needed. Jmo

 

[Monroe2]

I wonder why attorney Brian Webb wants to withdraw from Lolo’s case??

He probably realized.it is looking.battle

 

[Gardener1850]

Video of Judge disqualifying himself... Oh and then Webb and Edwina beg to withdraw too, legal motion coming soon... drops it on the judge about 3:41... Uh, yeah, Im, I'm .... Jaw drop by the judge!

WOW that was quicker than I thought! They heard about the LEA posse in SLC including the feds and they went *pfft*

Also, one can imagine the barf Lori serves up, only to be proven a full blown liar the next day. Boy, she's a pesky little client!

Wow. I didn't expect the judge to agree to the motion to disqualify himself without cause. But I suppose this will prevent Lori from appealing later and saying her first judge was biased. Am I the only one who got the impression that Webb and Elcox had differences of opinions with Means on how to best defend Lori? Perhaps they didn't agree with the motions Means filed asking for the judge to withdraw? MOO.

 

[Sticksandspades]

And, one of LV’s attorneys plans to file a motion to withdraw from the case (Brian Webb).

ETA: He’s the real estate lawyer that I can’t figure out why he’s one of her attorneys.

I won’t be surprised if they all bail eventually. Anyone for dominos?

 

[Trish51]

I won’t be surprised if they all bail eventually. Anyone for dominos?

True! She’s now left with a personal injury/family law lawyer. He’ll be withdrawing soon. Unless, he’s hard up for money and needs this case.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

I think the key to this may be that they didn't move the seat and tire to storage until several hours after BB was shot at in AZ. It was a failed attempt and they would know that BB saw the Jeep because they followed him for a bit before turning a different way. Plenty of time for someone down in AZ to make a call to Lori in Idaho and say-- "better hide the evidence" in case police come around to talk to you. It would take all day to drive back to Idaho. Then as soon as the Jeep was back, on Oct 3rd they put the seat back in and tire back on. If anyone inquired after that the story was the Jeep never left the state, it was in Lori's garage the whole time (no witnesses to them removing the tire that way). A storage unit was unlikely to be discovered by police without a search warrant. In fact, I believe the police didn't find out about the storage unit until the day the FBI raided the 3 units (Nov 27). The search of the 3 townhouse-apts was in the morning. Then LE called the storage unit owner in the afternoon and showed up to search the storage unit a few hours later. They probably had to get a judge to sign off on a separate warrant for the storage place after finding out about it from the search of Lori's apt. MOO.

If they got a phone call from AZ that there was an attempted murder so they should go hide evidence in storage that makes the butt pat even creepier.

My recollection is the storage people called Rexburg PD because they saw the news about Lori, not that LE found out about the storage place on their own. You are probably right, I'll go back and read some older threads.

 

[Randocalrissian]

In all fairness, this case is so absurdly twisted, that not everyone here on WS has read every comment in the 28 threads, or may have overlooked this tidbit of info in prior comments. Additionally, I had no idea he was in Soweto, Gauteng, nor did I know that was in South Africa (yay me, learning some new geography, lol). So I for one, appreciated the comment that JosefZ posted. It is far from a rabbit hole. Just a direct answer to a question.

I don’t mind answering questions, particularly when I know the answer. I guess I just don’t see that it matters where Tammy’s youngest son is serving, (who has been away for almost 2 years), or whether he is coming home early or not. It doesn’t seem to pertain to the case, IMHO. Plus, the child is not a POI and therefore, unsleuthable. There is so much more to talk about that can help us find the kids. That’s all I meant, with no offense intended. Thanks!

 

[VeryVeritas]

snipped by me (VV) for focus:

Also, I am pleased as punch that Chad has been identified as being in the storage unit on October 2. It is circumstantial, but if LE can tie the Jeep from Rexburg to Gilbert, Chad’s rolling of the tire and helping to lug the car seat have him an overt act in conspiracy to commit murder.

I thought the Jeep was identified in the BB murder attempt?
This seems clear that they were involved in conspiracy to commit murder.

And that means CD was fully aware of AxC's capabilities.

This is further confirmed by LVD coming back shortly after with AxC to retrieve the same tire and seat. Clearly to put things back together on the Jeep to cover up what had been done.
And using the Jeep in the first place because BB was supposed to be murdered it would have been harder to trace back to them. It's only readily identified because the attempt failed.

Now just imagine if the bullet had hit BB and killed him. AxC just barely missed, that's too close to argue that he was just trying to intimidate him.

Now I'm wondering why CD isn't arrested with this type of evidence being available. They must be building one hell of a case.

So, I'd previously come up with the only plausible (to me) theory of why the children might still be alive (It increasingly seems like they are not). What about this murder theory: To flip around the thinking, assuming they are deceased. Who most likely did it and how? It appears it was done one at a time too. From LVD's statements, I could see her argue that she gave JJ meds to knock him out. That she overdid it, causing an accidental death, which she covered up. With TR, I'm more inclined to think that LVD knows how to pretend things are fine on the surface, but underneath she is a powderkeg. After CV's murder, the stress of not getting the $ she was expecting LVD may have been more volatile than usual. TR complaining about moving, and perhaps many other things may have set LVD off into a rage. Because some think that AxC wouldn't hurt the children, a theory that puts it squarely on LVD seems likely. So, somehow, at YNP or thereabouts LVD goes off on TR.
Please poke holes in those for me. Thanks