Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #31

[watergirl62]

Judge: There are many things I could say that each of you had done, but I need to focus on what before me.
Means: repeats phone calls (he sounds manic)
Judge: they told you on at least one day that they were being recorded?
Means: repeat
Judge: What we learned from the affidavits that there were two phone calls
Means: multiple recordings there should be more affidavits
Judge:I heard that

I need to distinguish whether it is impossible for you to communicate with your client or if the jail surreptitiously recording your conversations. Asks for specific statute.

Means: May I approach
Judge: no
Amendment 6 or article 6?
Judge: I need a minute to look through my notes.

 

[Diddian]

Lori looks like she may be at that point some defendants reach when they realize they are being bamboozled by their attorney who promises more than he/she is equipped to deliver.

 

[watergirl62]

I need another pilsner.

 

[MadTing]

That shoe zoom tho lol

 

[MTW2011]

Did he just GOOGLE THE US CONSTITUTION??? In court?? Oh dear.

hey now, let’s cut him some slack....do you have the Declaration of Independence memorized?! Oops, I think I meant the Constitution, sorry, a lot of dates and numbers in my head right now. I can’t look it up to check, I don’t have the WiFi.

 

[MadTing]

lori's roots = 4.3d

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

I need another pilsner.

I was thinking we should start a Go Fund __ to buy beers all weekend for the poor detective sitting in that sh**show for 2 hours just shaking his head.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Justin Lum’s exclusive report tonight showed emails from Chad to Lori in Oct 2018. He assigned a “level” of Dark & Light spirits to Lori’s family members. Here’s part of the email

O....M.....G.

 

[watergirl62]

The judge has fabulous hair.

 

[BingleBongle]

hey now, let’s cut him some slack....do you have the Declaration of Independence memorized?! Oops, I think I meant the Constitution, sorry, a lot of dates and numbers in my head right now. I can’t look it up to check, I don’t have the WiFi.

Bahahaha! I feel like I could present this case better than this guy, just after reading "Criminal Defense for Dummies." It's painful to watch.

 

[BingleBongle]

lori's roots = 4.3d

You win post of the day. I am dead!!!

 

[MadTing]

Reduce it to $999k

 

[155etta]

BBM
Lipstick mystery solved.
Nate Eaton - Reporter
Two months ago, hundreds of people gathered at the Madison County Courthouse for Lori Vallow Daybell's first court appearance. The courtroom was packed, Lori was wearing pink lipstick (made in jail from a Jolly Rancher mixed with colored pencil), dozens of media outlets swarmed the grounds and she had a different attorney arguing on her behalf. Today's bond hearing will be very different. Here's why:
- Everyone in the courtroom will be wearing face masks.
- Lori's legal defense team has dropped from three lawyers to one - Mark Means.
- Chad Daybell attended the last hearing with his attorney, Sean Bartholick, who, as of a few days ago, is no longer representing Chad. His new attorney is Mark Means.
- Very few people (if any) will be in the gallery watching the proceedings as the hearing is closed to the public because of COVID-19.
- Only 3 members of the media are allowed in the courthouse - one still photographer, a videographer (me) and someone to run the video feed. The video and photos will be shared among all media groups.
- I'm told at least one witness will be called to testify and more could take the stand. That's not common at bond reduction hearings (and let's be honest - it's rare for a bond hearing to get this much attention).
- Mark Means says he wants the bond hearing because "new facts have come to light." He will present those details today.
- Rob Wood, the prosecuting attorney, filed documents late yesterday objecting to the bond change. He argues that Means misstated facts about what happened when he visited with Lori in jail. This will be discussed during the hearing.
- Proceedings begin at 2 p.m. We'll be live streaming at EastIdahoNews.com.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

BBM
Lipstick mystery solved.
Nate Eaton - Reporter
Two months ago, hundreds of people gathered at the Madison County Courthouse for Lori Vallow Daybell's first court appearance. The courtroom was packed, Lori was wearing pink lipstick (made in jail from a Jolly Rancher mixed with colored pencil), dozens of media outlets swarmed the grounds and she had a different attorney arguing on her behalf. Today's bond hearing will be very different. Here's why:
- Everyone in the courtroom will be wearing face masks.
- Lori's legal defense team has dropped from three lawyers to one - Mark Means.
- Chad Daybell attended the last hearing with his attorney, Sean Bartholick, who, as of a few days ago, is no longer representing Chad. His new attorney is Mark Means.
- Very few people (if any) will be in the gallery watching the proceedings as the hearing is closed to the public because of COVID-19.
- Only 3 members of the media are allowed in the courthouse - one still photographer, a videographer (me) and someone to run the video feed. The video and photos will be shared among all media groups.
- I'm told at least one witness will be called to testify and more could take the stand. That's not common at bond reduction hearings (and let's be honest - it's rare for a bond hearing to get this much attention).
- Mark Means says he wants the bond hearing because "new facts have come to light." He will present those details today.
- Rob Wood, the prosecuting attorney, filed documents late yesterday objecting to the bond change. He argues that Means misstated facts about what happened when he visited with Lori in jail. This will be discussed during the hearing.
- Proceedings begin at 2 p.m. We'll be live streaming at EastIdahoNews.com.

I'm terrified to learn how she crafted the lash extensions.

 

[watergirl62]

Judge: The court is always concerned with the constitutional rights of a defendant under both US and Idaho constitutions.
Specifically both the 5th and 8th amendments have been afforded to her so far.
This is the second bond hearing in front of a second judge.
I think Judge Eddins made a sound decision although I was not asked to review it.
Granted a hearing because of alleged new facts.
Rely on standard of good cause to reduce bail to $100K to $250K.
Relying on Means paragraph 5 relating to March 30.
Notes governors order in place at that time.
He was told by prosecutor that there were issues.
I don't know if warnings were issued on that day.
I only have speculation.
I cannot rely on speculation.
I am very capable of discerning argument from evidence.
I have Madison Co Lt affidavits.
I am not seeing significant inconsistencies between affidavits.
All can be explained with both in hand.
I am not hearing that defendant is being treated any differently than any other.
I am not seeing any impact on her rights.
No bulk release of defendants due to covid 19.
We don't want recordings happening.
Not sure bail reduction is the best path to address it.

DENIED!!!!!!!!!

 

[BUF]

Denied bond reduction

 

[BreeCherie]

And there you have it folks, denied.

 

[MTW2011]

Motion for bond reduction DENIED. Judge encouraged Means to talk to local defense attorneys on how he might be able to better do his job and work with his client while in jail, ha!

 

[Queasy Gumshoe]

"With what we have dealt with in the future" WTF?? what does that mean?????

 

[BUF]

She wants specifics